The Ford Engineers only "rallied" their efforts because the Boytie guys woke them up! Yup, thanks Ford for staying ahead of the game...I guess the 2010 is going to be the "black sheep" of the Mustang family...nice car, but no grunt in the face of the 2010 Camaro SS.

Somebody at Ford was sleeping at the helm...again, thanks Ford for being reactive instead of proactive!

 

Ford stayed "ahead of the game" during the years when they had no real, direct competition by releasing the then-new, significantly-updated 2005 S197 model. Resources such as capital and engineering manpower in the Automotive Industry (as well as every other industry, I'm sure) are very tight and therefore better suited being allocated towards products that bolster their bottom line. I'm willing to bet the Mustang isn't one of those programs.

Just be happy a 412 horsepower 5.0L V8 capable of 25 MPG is coming out come MY 2011, geez.

 

I wouldn't quite say they were asleep at the wheel.
The reaction was more to seeing what was ahead (fuel prices and weight), moreso than what the Camaro was doing...or doing wrong.
(competition is always in sight and had an answer, but its NOT the reason you didn't get a 5L in 2010)

The 5L was a year shorter developement wise compared to other engine programs...it was actually fast tracked if you look at it. A hurricane was meant to be under there, but being on-off again for various reasons, and other decisions got it pulled (thank goodness) and what we get here is something way better.

 

My former '79 Fox-body with 88 HP would be happy to hear that!

 

Sounds to me like you've got it all backwards my friend. If Ford had not kept the faith and redesigned the Mustang in 2005 and proved that there was still a viable market for cars like this there would never have been a rebirth or regurgitation or whatever of either the Camaro or the Challenger. As a matter of fact, if it were not for the success of the original Mustang way back in 1964 there never would have been any knockoffs from GM or Chrysler.

 

SAE article on the 5.0:
http://www.sae.org/mags/AEI/7357

 

I notice they mention an S/C 5.0 several times. Good info on suppliers and more tech specs on the motor as well.

 

I don't like that we have yet another engine that we can't punch out much bigger like the modulars.

 

Not much new info there, but I'm still really excited!

 

"Some of the hints include threaded-but-unused mounting bosses on the front of the right cylinder head casting. The gaping space within the valley of the engine’s vee and an unused drive pulley on the front of the crankshaft point to an upcoming, but as-yet unannounced, supercharged version of the 5.0-L."

Yes please!

"Going to DI would enable a 12.0:1 compression ratio rather than the current 11.1:1 ratio, which would boost power only slightly"

I wonder if DI will be added for the 2012 Boss since it sounds like part of the reason they didn't include it was due to time constraints? A N/A screamer with 12:1 compression sounds good to me!

 

here ya go:
https://themustangsource.com/showthread.php?t=479359

 

Actually saw a caravan with 3 2011 V6s on the way home from work today. Couldn't tell much, they were dirty and we were going in opposite directions, but they had the serial # on the windshield and M-plates, so that much was correct.

 

And I'd be pissed if they went with a 100 lb-heavier block (and associated additional weight and dollars for the whole car) just to leave enough space between the cylinders for the guys who have an irrational hatred for FI.

 

lol, it wouldn't be 100 lbs heavier.

Pick an option:

Build new s/b for boost, 302CID.

Build new s/b for boost, stroke to 363 CID.

Only an idiot would leave unstroked if they had options. Cubes = power. Are you bummed the new engine is 5.0L and not 4.6?

 

I doubt DI will make its way into a Mustang until there is no other way to achieve the EPA requirements for mileage at the given performance level.

 

We won't see DI for a few years. I'm sure they could even up the c/r a little more and change the heads on the RR motor and still get more hp than swapping to DI. We'll see soon enough.

 

Do you suppose DI would be excluded from the Mustang because it would put a crimp on the large after market power adder industry? With DI & Turbo you're kind of stuck in that one dimension...

 

I wouldn't be too worried about it. You and I already know there will be a special edition above the GT, but below the GT500 -- that, and I'm sure that the 5.4L you've got, even after they update it with an aluminum block, will be able to handle a ridiculous amount of power.

That, and sooner or later, somebody will figure out what really makes the 5.0 a screamer, and we'll all be desperate to get that. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there some rumor going around that with just a new FRPP intake manifold, it'll add like 50 horsepower? I remember reading something like that somewhere, but I can't recall if it was real or not.

 

Why did I even bother to look at the green postings in the link earlier. It just pissed me off..

 

Yes, Cubes = Power, And the sky is blue and fish are happiest when wet. The point I was making is that there's nothing wrong with taking an architecture to its bore limit in stock form, rather than intentionally leaving that potential to only be tapped by those enthusiasts who have the time and money to tear down and bore out their engines (while everyone else just gets dead weight). I was also making the point that more cubes aren't the only solution to getting more out of an engine, in fact thanks to a robust aftermarket FI makes a hell of a case for itself these days.