The 2011 6 speed manuals ??
7/13/11, 08:41 PM
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Sick to my stomach, can only hope I wont have to worry about a shifting issue after this anymore. 700miles on the ****ing car, just made first payment. Can only hope it is totally, entire body appears to have shifted to left. Rear Axle not centered under body anymore.
7/13/11, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by generalee31184
Sick to my stomach, can only hope I wont have to worry about a shifting issue after this anymore. 700miles on the ****ing car, just made first payment. Can only hope it is totally, entire body appears to have shifted to left. Rear Axle not centered under body anymore.
7/14/11, 06:43 AM
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Thanks, yeah we are ok, banged up a little bit. It did hurt a little bit lol. Even broke my **** center console. I am so mad. 700 miles. Im just hoping it can be totaled cuz it will never be the same and even if it does get fixed I will trade it back in. I cant believe the axle is not even centered anymore.
7/14/11, 07:01 AM
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That sucks man, sorry. The axle not being centered is a thrust angle adjustment and generally isn't as big a deal as you think UNLESS some other stuff under the car is bent or broken. Only time will tell. Good luck either way and glad the humans are in good condition.
7/14/11, 09:31 AM
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That sucks man, sorry. The axle not being centered is a thrust angle adjustment and generally isn't as big a deal as you think UNLESS some other stuff under the car is bent or broken. Only time will tell. Good luck either way and glad the humans are in good condition.
7/14/11, 06:00 PM
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7/14/11, 07:15 PM
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7/14/11, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by generalee31184
Sick to my stomach, can only hope I wont have to worry about a shifting issue after this anymore. 700miles on the ****ing car, just made first payment. Can only hope it is totally, entire body appears to have shifted to left. Rear Axle not centered under body anymore.
7/15/11, 01:20 AM
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I'm in heaven poeple here with common since not common stupid who uses there head.
I have to admit gotten in hugh fight in the other forum AFM with fanboy you know who I'm talking about. You can't even give your opinion with someone jumping all over it but they want you to respect theres
Yes it's amazing how poeple go straight to forum and whine. Instead of breathing abit and calm down. They don't even know how warranty works. I'm a tech I've been at over 20 years **** that makes me feel old.
I have to admit gotten in hugh fight in the other forum AFM with fanboy you know who I'm talking about. You can't even give your opinion with someone jumping all over it but they want you to respect theres
Yes it's amazing how poeple go straight to forum and whine. Instead of breathing abit and calm down. They don't even know how warranty works. I'm a tech I've been at over 20 years **** that makes me feel old.
7/15/11, 05:46 AM
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Originally Posted by generalee31184
Sick to my stomach, can only hope I wont have to worry about a shifting issue after this anymore. 700miles on the ****ing car, just made first payment. Can only hope it is totally, entire body appears to have shifted to left. Rear Axle not centered under body anymore.
7/15/11, 06:19 AM
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So yeah as far as what happened guys I truthfully am not 100% sure whose fault it was. Not sure if I had a green light or green arrow and just didn't see other guy coming or if he blew the light on his side. Truthfully have no idea. I do know that he was doing more than the speed limit. I was approaching intersection to turn left and I know my side was green and I just started turning and next thing I see was green Ford Ranger locking brakes barelling at me. No tickets were issued. I mean my assumption is that no matter what happened I would be at fault because I was turning but thats what insurance is for, let them figure it out. I just want my car fixed now lol.
7/16/11, 03:26 PM
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How do you know they have "blown on it off"? Remember the 1999 Cobra, the T3650 rebuild kits, the new Cobra radiators for the '97s when the 96s were marginal, the 3V 4.6 heads that were updated in 2008 because of 2-piece spark plugs breaking when being changed etc., etc.? There was a time lag between when the data showed up and when the fixes were issued - usually 12-15 months from my recollections. Frankly, people NOT taking their cars into their dealers and NOT logging an issue are probably doing a disservice to the larger community, since the engineering staff is looking at the service information to make their determinations on where to focus their precious resources. If they don't have data, I maintain it would make the decision to work on this less likely.
There will ALWAYS be a tension between engineering and cost accounting because if there wasn't, we wouldn't get $40,000 Mustangs that perform in the realm of $60,000 BMW M3s. Engineers pushed that through the system, which tells me that product makes a difference to Ford, in general.
If I were to guess what's going on, I suspect there are some Ford engineers working with their Getrag contacts in correcting either a design or manufacturing issue (or both). I also believe that any running change might not come out for another several months, given what it takes to design, test, and then produce a fix.
I really do feel for all those waiting. I remember my frustration when I took in my crunchy sounding T3650-equipped 2003 Mach 1 multiple times to have the issue corrected. I waited about 11 months from the time the issue was identified until the ultimate fix (a total transmission replacement with updated internals for a Job 2 run of the 2003 Mustangs) was available. I recently spoke with someone who has an '11 GT that developed the symptoms described here. He's hanging in there for a permanent resolution.
There will ALWAYS be a tension between engineering and cost accounting because if there wasn't, we wouldn't get $40,000 Mustangs that perform in the realm of $60,000 BMW M3s. Engineers pushed that through the system, which tells me that product makes a difference to Ford, in general.
If I were to guess what's going on, I suspect there are some Ford engineers working with their Getrag contacts in correcting either a design or manufacturing issue (or both). I also believe that any running change might not come out for another several months, given what it takes to design, test, and then produce a fix.
I really do feel for all those waiting. I remember my frustration when I took in my crunchy sounding T3650-equipped 2003 Mach 1 multiple times to have the issue corrected. I waited about 11 months from the time the issue was identified until the ultimate fix (a total transmission replacement with updated internals for a Job 2 run of the 2003 Mustangs) was available. I recently spoke with someone who has an '11 GT that developed the symptoms described here. He's hanging in there for a permanent resolution.
Ford has blown this off and are worried about My Ford touch which they got dinged on with consumer reports. Right now, the MT82 problems are just on the internet and not in the main stream media. The fact remains though that the getrag ford Mt 82 sucks. No getting around it.
I understand your point but you hope for progress. If this is the best Ford can do then they suck. They know good and well they have a big problem here and are still silent after all of this time. Im calling Bs on them. Shame on them and it has lessened my confidence in them as a company.
Tony, right now you look pretty smart in my eyes for buying a 10 Mustang. All the kinks are worked out. I thought we had passed the time or worrying about buying a first year car but we have not. TheCamaro is a disaster and the mustang is better but has issues. Im going to hold out.
7/16/11, 03:46 PM
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Ford has blown this off and are worried about My Ford touch which they got dinged on with consumer reports. Right now, the MT82 problems are just on the internet and not in the main stream media. The fact remains though that the getrag ford Mt 82 sucks. No getting around it.
Also, I don't disagree having this particular transmission has personally given me pause on buying.
I understand your point but you hope for progress. If this is the best Ford can do then they suck. They know good and well they have a big problem here and are still silent after all of this time. Im calling Bs on them. Shame on them and it has lessened my confidence in them as a company.
Tony, right now you look pretty smart in my eyes for buying a 10 Mustang. All the kinks are worked out. I thought we had passed the time or worrying about buying a first year car but we have not. TheCamaro is a disaster and the mustang is better but has issues. Im going to hold out.
I think that what I believe out of all this is that new technology innovations in short cycles in the automotive field have a probability of some design or manufacturing issues, so the question is "How bad do I gotta have it now?"
I also continue to hold for the remaining improvements of the 2013/14 model years.
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7/17/11, 03:14 AM
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Say what?
"The fact remains though that the getrag ford Mt 82 sucks"
Seriously? You base this on What? Internet discussions?
Go over to Camaro5 and read about the crappy Tremec 6060, same stuff. Mine works great, and I am no Ford Fanboy. Wasn't it Edmonds.com that just past 20,000 miles beating on their 11 GT/ M6 with their daily burnouts?
Blanket statements like this are what make the internet such an info vacuum some times.
Seriously? You base this on What? Internet discussions?
Go over to Camaro5 and read about the crappy Tremec 6060, same stuff. Mine works great, and I am no Ford Fanboy. Wasn't it Edmonds.com that just past 20,000 miles beating on their 11 GT/ M6 with their daily burnouts?
Blanket statements like this are what make the internet such an info vacuum some times.
7/17/11, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Swamp Dweller
"The fact remains though that the getrag ford Mt 82 sucks"
Seriously? You base this on What? Internet discussions?
Go over to Camaro5 and read about the crappy Tremec 6060, same stuff. Mine works great, and I am no Ford Fanboy. Wasn't it Edmonds.com that just past 20,000 miles beating on their 11 GT/ M6 with their daily burnouts?
Blanket statements like this are what make the internet such an info vacuum some times.
Seriously? You base this on What? Internet discussions?
Go over to Camaro5 and read about the crappy Tremec 6060, same stuff. Mine works great, and I am no Ford Fanboy. Wasn't it Edmonds.com that just past 20,000 miles beating on their 11 GT/ M6 with their daily burnouts?
Blanket statements like this are what make the internet such an info vacuum some times.
7/17/11, 11:10 AM
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"The fact remains though that the getrag ford Mt 82 sucks"
Seriously? You base this on What? Internet discussions?
Go over to Camaro5 and read about the crappy Tremec 6060, same stuff. Mine works great, and I am no Ford Fanboy. Wasn't it Edmonds.com that just past 20,000 miles beating on their 11 GT/ M6 with their daily burnouts?
Blanket statements like this are what make the internet such an info vacuum some times.
Seriously? You base this on What? Internet discussions?
Go over to Camaro5 and read about the crappy Tremec 6060, same stuff. Mine works great, and I am no Ford Fanboy. Wasn't it Edmonds.com that just past 20,000 miles beating on their 11 GT/ M6 with their daily burnouts?
Blanket statements like this are what make the internet such an info vacuum some times.
7/17/11, 04:23 PM
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Chevys.....I agree that there were some initial legit issues; clutch pedal/spring....Pressure Plate bolts that backed out on early 11 builds.
Every manual car I have driven, or owned has had it's moments...notchy gear engagement here and there, won't go into first a few times, etc. It is the nature of the beast, and I love it. They do tend to loosen up over time a bit.
Man I am 54( I know, old fart), I did all the tranny work at the dealership and dealt with these issues for many years. I know there are SOME legit issues that I hope DO get taken care of. I do believe though that there are a lot of inexperienced stick drivers getting these cars and as soon as somebody says something about a notchy shift, there is this "Yeah, me too" mentality that seems to take over, and yes, they are out there BEATING on them. Like I said, it is on every message board, Honda Accord, Camaro, Challenger, etc.....
Oh, and I do love my Chevys too, you ought to drive some of my old 67, 68,69 Camaros with the Muncie's. You want to talk about notchy and irrational shifters. Then again, I got rid of an 09 Accord Coupe M5, to get the Mustang. That one had it's moments also, but it was normal as any other.
Every manual car I have driven, or owned has had it's moments...notchy gear engagement here and there, won't go into first a few times, etc. It is the nature of the beast, and I love it. They do tend to loosen up over time a bit.
Man I am 54( I know, old fart), I did all the tranny work at the dealership and dealt with these issues for many years. I know there are SOME legit issues that I hope DO get taken care of. I do believe though that there are a lot of inexperienced stick drivers getting these cars and as soon as somebody says something about a notchy shift, there is this "Yeah, me too" mentality that seems to take over, and yes, they are out there BEATING on them. Like I said, it is on every message board, Honda Accord, Camaro, Challenger, etc.....
Oh, and I do love my Chevys too, you ought to drive some of my old 67, 68,69 Camaros with the Muncie's. You want to talk about notchy and irrational shifters. Then again, I got rid of an 09 Accord Coupe M5, to get the Mustang. That one had it's moments also, but it was normal as any other.
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7/18/11, 11:09 AM
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I have driven 3 track prepped 05-07 Mustangs, all with "new" replacement 6 speed manual transmissions from the 2011 GT installed on the 4.6 V8. 2 of the 3 were grinding and wouldn't go into first gear without dropping to second first (not a problem on this particular track because it's 3-4-5 for the most part). One of them popped out of 3rd in a corner when I released the clutch - even after RPM matching. One of the 3 was flawless but it had less than an hour of track time on it. The shifting action of the 2 problematic ones was fairly squishy and sloppy....not fun.
7/18/11, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Swamp Dweller
Chevys.....I agree that there were some initial legit issues; clutch pedal/spring....Pressure Plate bolts that backed out on early 11 builds.
Every manual car I have driven, or owned has had it's moments...notchy gear engagement here and there, won't go into first a few times, etc. It is the nature of the beast, and I love it. They do tend to loosen up over time a bit.
Man I am 54( I know, old fart), I did all the tranny work at the dealership and dealt with these issues for many years. I know there are SOME legit issues that I hope DO get taken care of. I do believe though that there are a lot of inexperienced stick drivers getting these cars and as soon as somebody says something about a notchy shift, there is this "Yeah, me too" mentality that seems to take over, and yes, they are out there BEATING on them. Like I said, it is on every message board, Honda Accord, Camaro, Challenger, etc.....
Oh, and I do love my Chevys too, you ought to drive some of my old 67, 68,69 Camaros with the Muncie's. You want to talk about notchy and irrational shifters. Then again, I got rid of an 09 Accord Coupe M5, to get the Mustang. That one had it's moments also, but it was normal as any other.
Every manual car I have driven, or owned has had it's moments...notchy gear engagement here and there, won't go into first a few times, etc. It is the nature of the beast, and I love it. They do tend to loosen up over time a bit.
Man I am 54( I know, old fart), I did all the tranny work at the dealership and dealt with these issues for many years. I know there are SOME legit issues that I hope DO get taken care of. I do believe though that there are a lot of inexperienced stick drivers getting these cars and as soon as somebody says something about a notchy shift, there is this "Yeah, me too" mentality that seems to take over, and yes, they are out there BEATING on them. Like I said, it is on every message board, Honda Accord, Camaro, Challenger, etc.....
Oh, and I do love my Chevys too, you ought to drive some of my old 67, 68,69 Camaros with the Muncie's. You want to talk about notchy and irrational shifters. Then again, I got rid of an 09 Accord Coupe M5, to get the Mustang. That one had it's moments also, but it was normal as any other.
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