2010+ Info as far as we know
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Good point. But the sideview mirrors being completely different, and the unique wheels are V6 narrow and certainly not destined for a Mach-1, conspire to make it seem as though this is a mule for the 2010.
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the fogs I mentioned in the uppergrill can be seen in this pic, look directly below the "gh" in copy right, looks to be a perfectly round but blacked out whole in the grill. which would mean that they created a grill with those openings to fit the GT500 bumper that they apparently put on the car
Yeah like seriously, Ford is probably having a good laugh about this right now. Could it be just a joke to them, to try and throw us off? I really hope the 2010 is what we all hope it'll be...
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first off I would like to give credit where credit is due so if anyone know whos it was that originally created these pics please speak up, I believe I originally found them on here, but as you can see I have changed them a bit to illustrate some of the key points the 2010 may have. Thanks.
assuming that these spy shots are of the 2010 and not a SE I created a couple of photoshops based on these photos, what weve had confirmed/strongly reliable rumors of the 2010 and what Ive been told by someone who has actually seen the car in person of what the 2010 might look like.
There are two because I couldnt get the hood bulge exactly right so I did one with and one without. Although now after speaking to that person again after showing them these I dont think its on the right track at all...I guess only time will tell.
assuming that these spy shots are of the 2010 and not a SE I created a couple of photoshops based on these photos, what weve had confirmed/strongly reliable rumors of the 2010 and what Ive been told by someone who has actually seen the car in person of what the 2010 might look like.
There are two because I couldnt get the hood bulge exactly right so I did one with and one without. Although now after speaking to that person again after showing them these I dont think its on the right track at all...I guess only time will tell.
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Ford wouldn't spend the money to outfit a Mach1 with that many cosmetic changes (considering it'd be a 1 year SE, not 2)
All the money is going into the redesign.
All of the changes indicate this is infact the 2010 mule
All the money is going into the redesign.
All of the changes indicate this is infact the 2010 mule
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ITS NOT A GT500 BUMPER...THERE ARE NO LOWER FOGS.
THERE ARE NO FOGS IN THE GRILLE EITHER. ATTACHED I
SHOW THE EYE TRICKERY THAT IS JUST THE SHAPE OF THE GRILLE OPENING
THERE ARE NO FOGS IN THE GRILLE EITHER. ATTACHED I
SHOW THE EYE TRICKERY THAT IS JUST THE SHAPE OF THE GRILLE OPENING
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but it doesnt look like a redesign, especially not as much of a redesign as everything so far has led us to expect, it looks like all they did was change the bumpers and possibly the hood and that is completely expected for an SE, especially the Mach since the Boss was a Mach the idea would be that if they redid both that they would be very similar with power and slight styling changes therefore a bumper change would be run at least 2 yrs. It makes sense.
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My friend within Ford tells me that the all new V8 (Boss/Hurricane) which debuts in the F-150 has been pushed back to job 2 for 2009 (approximately Dec 08 or Jan 09), which means Mustang would not get its version of the motor for a special edition model until late 09 at the earliest (which is the 2010 model year). So, we'll continue to see mod motors for at least another 1.5 years of production - maybe longer.
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The BOSS going into the F150 is not going into the mustang for now (the 6.2)
If it does infact go in, and is replacing the GT500s 5.4, delay doesn't really matter as yet, the motor is good for up to 600 anyway
As for the GT, the 4.6 will eventually go the way of the dodo...
I'm more curious to see when the 5.0 will be completed (2010MY or 2011MY)
If it does infact go in, and is replacing the GT500s 5.4, delay doesn't really matter as yet, the motor is good for up to 600 anyway
As for the GT, the 4.6 will eventually go the way of the dodo...
I'm more curious to see when the 5.0 will be completed (2010MY or 2011MY)
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its not a matter of xray vision its just logic, would you agree that the car in these spy pics looks 90% similar to what we currently have? and from what weve had confirmed/rumored + what Ive been told by a reliable source the 2010 looks nothing like the current one, if at most maybe 10% similar.
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Here's my take, for what's it's worth.
You guys may have more "inside info" so it's worth bearing in mind my view comes only from what I've read on various forums.
I don't expect to see massive changes for the '10 model year. This car is, afterall, a facelifted S197. New front and rear ends. The camo'd mule in the photos seems to back this up. Clearly there are changes to the front that seem to imply it's inspired by the GT500. So, new front bumper/grille/lights. It's tough to call if the turn signals are built into the main headlight (rrbello - your red photoshops look cool, although I'm not 100% sold on that look). The shots of the left hand side back up the theory, but the right side looks like the split gill is on the outside of the lamp unit (think '70 look). Weird, that's the approach of styling bucks, not testbed cars. Could just be a trick of the camo.
The rear clearly has new light units, although I'm surpised Ford would add in clear/white sections and break a 40 year habit
The sides of the car are too well padded to see if there are any big metalwork changes here, so there may be some subtle hips in there somewhere.
The test car would also appear to be a V6. Surely the Mach1 SE would be a V8, so why use a six in the test car? Also, would Ford really cold weather test an SE?
So what am I saying? I guess I find it hard to believe Ford would go to these lengths for an SE, so for me this has to be the '10.
I reckon the looks that inspired the Camaro (or was it coincedence?) will be reserved for the all new next gen Falcon based car, due 2012/3. That car, I'd expect, will be more radical looking and possible sport a new glass house ('69/'70 inspired).
Guess we'll all find out within the next 18/24 mths. But the wait's gonna kill me
What we really need are more spyshots!
You guys may have more "inside info" so it's worth bearing in mind my view comes only from what I've read on various forums.
I don't expect to see massive changes for the '10 model year. This car is, afterall, a facelifted S197. New front and rear ends. The camo'd mule in the photos seems to back this up. Clearly there are changes to the front that seem to imply it's inspired by the GT500. So, new front bumper/grille/lights. It's tough to call if the turn signals are built into the main headlight (rrbello - your red photoshops look cool, although I'm not 100% sold on that look). The shots of the left hand side back up the theory, but the right side looks like the split gill is on the outside of the lamp unit (think '70 look). Weird, that's the approach of styling bucks, not testbed cars. Could just be a trick of the camo.
The rear clearly has new light units, although I'm surpised Ford would add in clear/white sections and break a 40 year habit
The sides of the car are too well padded to see if there are any big metalwork changes here, so there may be some subtle hips in there somewhere.
The test car would also appear to be a V6. Surely the Mach1 SE would be a V8, so why use a six in the test car? Also, would Ford really cold weather test an SE?
So what am I saying? I guess I find it hard to believe Ford would go to these lengths for an SE, so for me this has to be the '10.
I reckon the looks that inspired the Camaro (or was it coincedence?) will be reserved for the all new next gen Falcon based car, due 2012/3. That car, I'd expect, will be more radical looking and possible sport a new glass house ('69/'70 inspired).
Guess we'll all find out within the next 18/24 mths. But the wait's gonna kill me
What we really need are more spyshots!
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Why would Ford not cold weather test an SE? Especially if it has any different powertrain options, you gotta know if it is gonna work in the cold right?
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Alright guys,
Am I the only one who is moderately confused what Ford exactly means to do as far the "facelift" is concerned? A facelift to me is a couple new panels, most likey new front/rear end. Is the 2010MY the new Mustang or is it just a facelift to keep it competitive until 2012?? It seems to me that Ford should get on a solid 5 year lifespan of models, and once that model has had its 5 years, the new one comes out. I know I'm just freaking out because I'm excited from all the possibilities, and I want the next Stang to be exactly what we have in our minds. I just want answers...
Am I the only one who is moderately confused what Ford exactly means to do as far the "facelift" is concerned? A facelift to me is a couple new panels, most likey new front/rear end. Is the 2010MY the new Mustang or is it just a facelift to keep it competitive until 2012?? It seems to me that Ford should get on a solid 5 year lifespan of models, and once that model has had its 5 years, the new one comes out. I know I'm just freaking out because I'm excited from all the possibilities, and I want the next Stang to be exactly what we have in our minds. I just want answers...
#99
It's definately a 2010, the rear lights don't have white in between them, it's clear spots that are still entirely inside of the red parts, you can see in the close up if you look closely, they're probably reverse lights. Then, they moved the antenna and there are definately some hips, and new mirrors. The front is definately inspired by the GT500, I just can't figure out where the fogs are, if it is a V6 then they may not have fogs on it. The rims look like 17's, if so, it wouldn't be an SE, especially since as someone else pointed out, they look a lot like the current generation V6 wheels. I say 2010 mule for sure...
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its not a matter of xray vision its just logic, would you agree that the car in these spy pics looks 90% similar to what we currently have? and from what weve had confirmed/rumored + what Ive been told by a reliable source the 2010 looks nothing like the current one, if at most maybe 10% similar.
Would I agree 90%?
no because all I see is a different front end and rear and interior
+ for the sake of testing, EVEN if the other panels were the same or the test car is using current panels for the time being.... does not mean they won't change.
Remember the last 'spy shots' were only just front end being tested and the rest of the panels the same.
they don't HAVE to use all the new panels
(especially since this is the same platform/chassis)