Granatelli Fuego Tuner! What can we expect?
11/17/06, 07:22 PM
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11/18/06, 08:43 PM
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I got tired of waiting for insight on the Fuego tuner. For the record, I loved the GMS CAI w/MAF. I originally purchased the "set-up" because I did not want a tune, but as most will tell you, hp is addictive. That being said, I decided that I wanted a tune and was happy about the prospects of the new Fuego tuner. I waited, and waited, and waited... Finally, I discovered that they were being shipped(i think), but there was no feedback or information from JR, who was all over this forum a few weeks back marketing his GMS CAI. So I waited some more... Well, I happy to say that the wait is over. I just ordered the JLT w/ Xcal from Bamachips. I'll be selling the GMS CAI, or it'll serve as a paper weight, whatever, I ultimately got what I wanted. Sure, I probably could have had someone tune the GMS CAI, but I wanted a complete reputable package, hence, Bamachips. Again, I have nothing but good things to report on JR and his product. It did everything that was promised and exceeded my expections. I only wished that there was more information available about the Fuego. 
11/21/06, 06:35 AM
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That's an easy answer. Because it's much faster processing the uploads and stores much more data than the old xcal's and other tuners...Like moving from win3.1 to winxp....Just a much better product (of course, that is if it does what was promised)....I am looking forward to hearing more as well....Come on JR, where are you and those that have ordered, what are your thoughts?
11/21/06, 09:00 AM
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Don't marry yourself to a company.
We all have our own self interest at heart. But we perceive things differently. Who's to say who is right and who is wrong (as long as we stay on the right side of the law)?
Some of us with 2007s want a canned package that will work simply, without having to go to proficient and reputable tuners (that's, if we can find them close by) every time we add a mod. As well, I don't care about dyno numbers at low altitudes (high densities). I use overall drivability (especially throttle response at all rpms) and ease of use, for my criteria . . . that and how well it performs relative to the competition, in the real world (on the street).
One of my other choices, the HyperPAC #84006, for 2007 Mustangs will not be available for some time because the computer calibrations are different for them.
I spoke to Morgan (805-486-6644, ext. 17) last Tuesday and they should be shipping soon.
Some of us with 2007s want a canned package that will work simply, without having to go to proficient and reputable tuners (that's, if we can find them close by) every time we add a mod. As well, I don't care about dyno numbers at low altitudes (high densities). I use overall drivability (especially throttle response at all rpms) and ease of use, for my criteria . . . that and how well it performs relative to the competition, in the real world (on the street).
One of my other choices, the HyperPAC #84006, for 2007 Mustangs will not be available for some time because the computer calibrations are different for them.
I spoke to Morgan (805-486-6644, ext. 17) last Tuesday and they should be shipping soon.
11/21/06, 09:14 AM
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It's more like having a brand new whizzbang computer with the latest everything... To read email in a text only program like Pine.
Putting that much memory in a flash tuner is a waste. The only useful part of the memory upgrade is the amount of data you can datalog and keep on the tuner. When I had my "old" Diablo I could keep quite a bit of data datalogged on it with it's paltry memory, so where's the "real" benefit? The amount of time it takes to upload a program? Doubt it, you can only move at the speed of the weakest link, which in this case is the PCM itself. It's not going to move data any faster than the serial connection of the PCM.
So what's the real reason for the memory upgrade? Snazzier graphics on the interface. Gotta use that newfound power somewhere
11/21/06, 09:49 AM
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I got tired of waiting for insight on the Fuego tuner. For the record, I loved the GMS CAI w/MAF. I originally purchased the "set-up" because I did not want a tune, but as most will tell you, hp is addictive. That being said, I decided that I wanted a tune and was happy about the prospects of the new Fuego tuner. I waited, and waited, and waited... Finally, I discovered that they were being shipped(i think), but there was no feedback or information from JR, who was all over this forum a few weeks back marketing his GMS CAI. So I waited some more... Well, I happy to say that the wait is over. I just ordered the JLT w/ Xcal from Bamachips. I'll be selling the GMS CAI, or it'll serve as a paper weight, whatever, I ultimately got what I wanted. Sure, I probably could have had someone tune the GMS CAI, but I wanted a complete reputable package, hence, Bamachips. Again, I have nothing but good things to report on JR and his product. It did everything that was promised and exceeded my expections. I only wished that there was more information available about the Fuego.
Fuego can ship for anything Ford but the 2007 cars. we are a few more weeks out of 2007. Doug or anyone else could have and has written tunes for any CAI. - soory it took too long to get back to you
11/21/06, 09:50 AM
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That's an easy answer. Because it's much faster processing the uploads and stores much more data than the old xcal's and other tuners...Like moving from win3.1 to winxp....Just a much better product (of course, that is if it does what was promised)....I am looking forward to hearing more as well....Come on JR, where are you and those that have ordered, what are your thoughts?
11/21/06, 09:52 AM
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Actually, that's a really bad analogy.
It's more like having a brand new whizzbang computer with the latest everything... To read email in a text only program like Pine.
Putting that much memory in a flash tuner is a waste. The only useful part of the memory upgrade is the amount of data you can datalog and keep on the tuner. When I had my "old" Diablo I could keep quite a bit of data datalogged on it with it's paltry memory, so where's the "real" benefit? The amount of time it takes to upload a program? Doubt it, you can only move at the speed of the weakest link, which in this case is the PCM itself. It's not going to move data any faster than the serial connection of the PCM.
So what's the real reason for the memory upgrade? Snazzier graphics on the interface. Gotta use that newfound power somewhere
It's more like having a brand new whizzbang computer with the latest everything... To read email in a text only program like Pine.
Putting that much memory in a flash tuner is a waste. The only useful part of the memory upgrade is the amount of data you can datalog and keep on the tuner. When I had my "old" Diablo I could keep quite a bit of data datalogged on it with it's paltry memory, so where's the "real" benefit? The amount of time it takes to upload a program? Doubt it, you can only move at the speed of the weakest link, which in this case is the PCM itself. It's not going to move data any faster than the serial connection of the PCM.
So what's the real reason for the memory upgrade? Snazzier graphics on the interface. Gotta use that newfound power somewhere
11/21/06, 10:54 AM
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11/21/06, 12:59 PM
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I can only spread myself so thin. I spent 2 months all over the boards trying to help as many people as I could and in the end, it is hard to argue with so many about stuff they know nothing about. If I talk the talk and walk the walk I get blasted for 1 thing - if I stay quiet other see that as a sign of weakness - I can't win either way
Fuego can ship for anything Ford but the 2007 cars. we are a few more weeks out of 2007. Doug or anyone else could have and has written tunes for any CAI. - soory it took too long to get back to you
Fuego can ship for anything Ford but the 2007 cars. we are a few more weeks out of 2007. Doug or anyone else could have and has written tunes for any CAI. - soory it took too long to get back to you
http://forums.bradbarnett.net/showth...485#post783485
11/21/06, 01:06 PM
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http://forums.bradbarnett.net/showthread.php?t=56623
11/21/06, 01:52 PM
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That's an easy answer. Because it's much faster processing the uploads and stores much more data than the old xcal's and other tuners...Like moving from win3.1 to winxp....Just a much better product (of course, that is if it does what was promised)....I am looking forward to hearing more as well....Come on JR, where are you and those that have ordered, what are your thoughts?
Sounds like putting 100GB RAM into your computer. Pointless. Waiting a YEAR for this product so it will save you 30 seconds on a tune transfer? lol
11/21/06, 05:34 PM
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I can only spread myself so thin. I spent 2 months all over the boards trying to help as many people as I could and in the end, it is hard to argue with so many about stuff they know nothing about. If I talk the talk and walk the walk I get blasted for 1 thing - if I stay quiet other see that as a sign of weakness - I can't win either way
Fuego can ship for anything Ford but the 2007 cars. we are a few more weeks out of 2007. Doug or anyone else could have and has written tunes for any CAI. - soory it took too long to get back to you
Fuego can ship for anything Ford but the 2007 cars. we are a few more weeks out of 2007. Doug or anyone else could have and has written tunes for any CAI. - soory it took too long to get back to you
12/1/06, 09:47 AM
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