Now the cams were installed in the car last friday by me. Used the Anderson ford 2 valve tool, Modified it to work past the VCT. Spent more time modifying the tool than actually installing the cams. I am buying a second cam tool so i don`t have to modify for each side....One for each side, it is enough of a difference to warrant this.
I left behind schedule and by the time I got to where Doug and the dyno was, I was waiting in line. The two cars before us took soo long, i got on past midnight. We did baseline runs with stock air box and cams installed, it actually idled ok with this setup before the tune, how did ya think I got on the tralier.. We kept having issues with recovery after comming down on rpm, only to find out after I got home the throttle blades were dirty. We have to retune for the adjustments that were made earlier on the dirty throttle body. Again after changing out to the C&L Racer CAI, we made runs on the 89 tune. In my haste to get done and load up for the trip, I fulled with 89 and should have done 93 to get a good what`does these cams give us run. My bad, now I have to schedule another get together so doug and car can get done what we started to do in the first place. Find out tunning issues resolved and how much power do the Hot Rod Cams give on a stock engine with a CAI and tune?

Here is the dyno run for the 88.5..err... diluted 89 gas. Will post up runs with 93 fuel and corrected tune when done.
http://pic16.picturetrail.com/VOL692.../323604353.jpg

 

AND...
Comparism of stock vrs cammed, has stock air box on both runs with 89 fuel. Note only mod is Pypes mid pipe exhaust system installed for all tests. Engine has no other mods. Ok, I painted the cam covers black wrinkle finish when they were off. If I were a ricer that mod must be worth 25 horsepower


http://pic16.picturetrail.com/VOL692.../323606578.jpg

 

Cam Tool? Did you replace the valve springs, though the HotRod cams are able to use stock?

 

Do you have any pictures of your valve covers? I was thinking about a black wrinkle finish as well.

To the OP: Glad your cams worked out. Way to be the guinea pig for all of us. I'm sure we will be seeing a lot more FRPP cam purchases in the future.

 

Sorry, that got postponed.

 

Anderson ford calls it a "cam rentetion tool" And you should get two. Modify one for each side, exact opposites when done. When you bend the tool to fit, you should use a small torch to heat the tool. These cams are designed to be used WITH factory valve springs. And they work great. Our digital camera was stolen a while back, so off to Wal Mart to have pics put on cd, then get em downloaded for ya all. Including the wrinkle cam covers too. Probally after the holiday. Might have a dyno run on 93 in by then, I`ll get the dyno run up also. At least we`ll know what to expect from these cams. I wonder what mine will do with some of the mods ya all have? Hmmm...FI or 324, hate that choice..

 

Forced Induction.

 

I have the good 324 rotating assembly, just need a good 3.70 big bore block. Again I will only be able to do one now and the other in two years from now. Bummer. My wife is half way thru Nursing college. Taking donations.....

 

I called the FRPP hot line today and the the tech I spoke with said he had them in stock and that they were $850.00. Man that's a little too rich for my blood. They sound great but I can't see dropping that for them. Anybody else offering a better price than that. The stage 2 comp cams nsr are right around $600.00. Is there something better w/ the ford cams than the comp cams?

 

Besides the Lope?

 

Haven't seen dyno numbers, but they seem to claim better numbers, especially down low. And of course, the awesome lope.

 

How do you guys think they would hold up w/ the addition of a supercharger?

 

Sorry guys... I'm still a little ways from getting on the dyno. I'll be sure to post up when I get the results!

 

I think that dyno comparison shows pretty clearly these cams may sound good but are not making very impressive gains.

 

how much more hp would 93 octane make?

 

Ok, Ok....The graph is stock vrs 89 fuel and lower timing than 93 requires. If ran with 93 fuel and a good tune and more timing it will be higher. Do keep in mind my car has NO long tube headers, No aftermarket mid/ H pipe without cats, NO delete plates, No underdrive pullies, No body`s one piece drive shaft, No change in gearing out back, stock 3:55`s, No ported heads, No bigger throttle body, No electric water pump, all stock engine and stock fuel system. As we all know these basic must have mods do open up the breathing of these engines with inpressive gains to be had fron these mods listed.

What I do have installed for this test.....Axle back Pypes "Midpipe" mufflers, 5 horse maybe? These exhaust systems on our cars are pretty good from the factory, hard to improve upon unless you remove the cats and/ or go the long tube routs. I have stock cats and NO L. T. headers. I do have a C&l "racer intake" with a 93 tune, And 93 pump gas. No power adder of any kind. The stock gearing is chocking this combination, not allowing it to breathe properly. Also the tune is not complete as we ran out of dyno time to try to get the max out of this combo. I believe after I run three tanks of 93 fuel to rid the tank of 89 and then getting some more tuning work on this it should break the 300 for rear horsepower at the tires. This is very good for no other mods than cams and a a CAI.


Oh, I paid 725 shipped for the cams.

 

Who did you get them form?????

 

Look here... http://www.modularfords.com/forums/s...d.php?t=109939

And look here, last post on the bottom is price, shipped!

http://www.modularfords.com/forums/s...=109941&page=4

 

They will hold up fine but will likely lose boost due to too much overlap in the cam profile.
You should use a blower cam for a forced induction motor not this low lift high duration cam.

 

Thanks for the suggestion. This is kind of off subject but, but I am looking to put on a procharger in the next 6 months. I was going to get a set of comp cams stage 2 now for supercharger applications now. Will it hurt to go ahead and install them even if the supercharger isn't on yet?