Midwest TMS'ers General Communication Thread
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Okay smart butt. Since I went to the doctor today and am feeling like I have been raped from the rear end and you are a very important person in a medical institution in the Chicago area ....I am thinking you need to buck up some of your hard earned bucks and buy the mufflers and post something constructive. If you want to take a poll I'm in. But ......... Where's Tom when I need him!!!
Scott
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Well made it home....... woke up this morning in Grand Rapids and they had gotten about 6" of snow overnight. 94 was closed this morning..... good thing my 8:30am meeting lasted until 4pm so by that time everything was pretty much cleared up.
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Hell 6" is just a dusting around here. Suppose to get 4 to 8" more tonight than the Lake effect kicks in later in the week.
Going to the car show this weekend in Chicago. Taken the South Shore Train right to McComcormick place front door.
Hey Tom I'll check on a Saleen SC install for you.
Scott how is your leaky rear end tonight.
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Okay smart butt. Since I went to the doctor today and am feeling like I have been raped from the rear end and you are a very important person in a medical institution in the Chicago area ....I am thinking you need to buck up some of your hard earned bucks and buy the mufflers and post something constructive. If you want to take a poll I'm in. But ......... Where's Tom when I need him!!!
Scott
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McCormick Place is huge...... have fun.
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Heres a Bullitt for Ya!..........http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNqoVqHCNt4
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Wow, what a mess! Even with only about 4-5" or so here, it made the side roads miserable but passable. The town I live in didn't even salt our street, just plowed it with a pickup truck. The highway department kept the highway clean though.
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Heres a Bullitt for Ya!..........http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNqoVqHCNt4
I think that was done more with cams than the mufflers. I have also been looking around for some sound clips of a Bullitt but have not had any luck yet.
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Today, 04:17 PM #10 Bullitt 2597 vbmenu_register("postmenu_1092853", true);
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Here is the explanation directly from the engineer.
The system is retuned (within the existing package) from front to back. Aside from the tips, there is no way to tell what has changed beyond looking at part numbers. The h-pipe is modified internally as are the mufflers (completely different design on the inside). The exhaust tips were designed to work with the rest of the exhaust changes and were critical to delivering this sound (though the basic sound comes from the h-pipe and muffler redesign). Emcon is our exhaust supplier (recently spun off from ArvinMeritor). I provided them the target sound I was looking for and we worked together to come up with the engineering changes to deliver the sound. Lots of computer modeling coupled with in vehicle fine tuning. I will take exclusive credit for the tips, though! To go along with the signature sound, I made it as loud as legally possible, too. I spent a great deal of time on this exhaust system. Sounds like most of you like it. If you compare the layout of the S197 exhaust system to that of either the SN95 or even the '68, you'll see that it is substantially different. Getting the S197 Bullitt to sound the way it does forced us to sharpen our pencils and put on our thinking caps. It was sort of like trying to make a clarinet sound like a tuba (maybe not the best analogy). Hope this info helps.
FYI - Bullitt muffler code (stamped on can) is F1-8087
GT with automatic trans is F1-7991
GT with manual trans is F1-7849
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Here is the explanation directly from the engineer.
The system is retuned (within the existing package) from front to back. Aside from the tips, there is no way to tell what has changed beyond looking at part numbers. The h-pipe is modified internally as are the mufflers (completely different design on the inside). The exhaust tips were designed to work with the rest of the exhaust changes and were critical to delivering this sound (though the basic sound comes from the h-pipe and muffler redesign). Emcon is our exhaust supplier (recently spun off from ArvinMeritor). I provided them the target sound I was looking for and we worked together to come up with the engineering changes to deliver the sound. Lots of computer modeling coupled with in vehicle fine tuning. I will take exclusive credit for the tips, though! To go along with the signature sound, I made it as loud as legally possible, too. I spent a great deal of time on this exhaust system. Sounds like most of you like it. If you compare the layout of the S197 exhaust system to that of either the SN95 or even the '68, you'll see that it is substantially different. Getting the S197 Bullitt to sound the way it does forced us to sharpen our pencils and put on our thinking caps. It was sort of like trying to make a clarinet sound like a tuba (maybe not the best analogy). Hope this info helps.
FYI - Bullitt muffler code (stamped on can) is F1-8087
GT with automatic trans is F1-7991
GT with manual trans is F1-7849
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Hi Ben.
No they are not hard to install. It is easier to do when you are doing the header install for sure. Because you have to remove the engine mount brackets from the engine and jack the engine up just like when you did your headers. I did mine as part of the header install but I am still not sure I like them. I am not sure if it the Prothane mounts or a hanger rod on the H-pipe of my OBX headers that is transmitting so much noise and vibration into the car but..... I hope to find out this weekend when I fix the hanger issue. If it is not that I am thinking about going back to the stock mounts because they are pretty noisey. Tom should be able to give his imput on this subject also.
Scott
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Today, 04:17 PM #10 Bullitt 2597 vbmenu_register("postmenu_1092853", true);
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Here is the explanation directly from the engineer.
The system is retuned (within the existing package) from front to back. Aside from the tips, there is no way to tell what has changed beyond looking at part numbers. The h-pipe is modified internally as are the mufflers (completely different design on the inside). The exhaust tips were designed to work with the rest of the exhaust changes and were critical to delivering this sound (though the basic sound comes from the h-pipe and muffler redesign). Emcon is our exhaust supplier (recently spun off from ArvinMeritor). I provided them the target sound I was looking for and we worked together to come up with the engineering changes to deliver the sound. Lots of computer modeling coupled with in vehicle fine tuning. I will take exclusive credit for the tips, though! To go along with the signature sound, I made it as loud as legally possible, too. I spent a great deal of time on this exhaust system. Sounds like most of you like it. If you compare the layout of the S197 exhaust system to that of either the SN95 or even the '68, you'll see that it is substantially different. Getting the S197 Bullitt to sound the way it does forced us to sharpen our pencils and put on our thinking caps. It was sort of like trying to make a clarinet sound like a tuba (maybe not the best analogy). Hope this info helps.
FYI - Bullitt muffler code (stamped on can) is F1-8087
GT with automatic trans is F1-7991
GT with manual trans is F1-7849
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Join Date: May 12, 2006
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Here is the explanation directly from the engineer.
The system is retuned (within the existing package) from front to back. Aside from the tips, there is no way to tell what has changed beyond looking at part numbers. The h-pipe is modified internally as are the mufflers (completely different design on the inside). The exhaust tips were designed to work with the rest of the exhaust changes and were critical to delivering this sound (though the basic sound comes from the h-pipe and muffler redesign). Emcon is our exhaust supplier (recently spun off from ArvinMeritor). I provided them the target sound I was looking for and we worked together to come up with the engineering changes to deliver the sound. Lots of computer modeling coupled with in vehicle fine tuning. I will take exclusive credit for the tips, though! To go along with the signature sound, I made it as loud as legally possible, too. I spent a great deal of time on this exhaust system. Sounds like most of you like it. If you compare the layout of the S197 exhaust system to that of either the SN95 or even the '68, you'll see that it is substantially different. Getting the S197 Bullitt to sound the way it does forced us to sharpen our pencils and put on our thinking caps. It was sort of like trying to make a clarinet sound like a tuba (maybe not the best analogy). Hope this info helps.
FYI - Bullitt muffler code (stamped on can) is F1-8087
GT with automatic trans is F1-7991
GT with manual trans is F1-7849
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Good info Scottie!! But.........
Or vids!
Scott
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