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Old 7/5/05, 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by SurfnSoCal@July 5, 2005, 11:36 AM
I have come to the realization that I now have wasted 10 min. of my life, while reading this thread, that I can never get back.

law suit...you guys are retarded.

Show me a "breached" contract or how a party has been "injured". Sounds like alot of you went to community college and took one Business Law class; and now think you know everything.

as previosuly stated, go for it....wait months...spend time/energy...and enjoy your free oil change coupon.


You were the one that started the personal attacks by telling people they are retarded.
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Originally posted by moc1976@July 5, 2005, 1:22 PM
You were the one that started the personal attacks by telling people they are retarded.
Exactly...you beat me to it.



(Not a response to the quote)

Furthermore, I find it funny that it is stated that I don't argue well when SurfnSoCal's arguments are based on such awe-inspiring concepts as "retarded", "common sense", and "stop whining". Man, those are some really strong arguments. Beats the heck out of anything I can come up with.

In response to my arrogance, most would be shocked how often attorneys for huge companies will write things into contracts and agreements that will not hold up, because they know the average consumer will see it in the contract and say, "shucks, there is nothing I can do about it". It really amounts to little more than a bluff in a lot of cases. Also, believe it or not, the attorneys for huge corporations are not error-proof, and even if they were, the officers do not always listen to their advice. For someone that continues to preach "reality", you (SurfnSoCal) really seem to have a naive and unrealistic view of this particular subject.
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how is saying a certain idea or mind set is retarded a PERSONAL attack? he specifically singled me out! I never said specifically one person was retarded! Although I do remember SOMEONE talking about my last birthday party, where at a restaurant I wore a tutu as a joke. BTW, THAT was a personal attack.

Can we get back on topic, because I would like to have a decent conversation on this topic.

anyone know about them rolling down, but not up?
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Originally posted by moc1976@July 5, 2005, 1:18 PM
Would you stop with the "go sell your car bit" I didn't order the car because of the global open/close, I ordered the upgraded alarm because of it. Maybe you need to get mommy to help you read what people post on here cause you seem to be having trouble comprehending.

I never said I was unhappy with the car, or that I wanted to get rid of the car. I said I was upset that an option I paid for did not do what I wanted, which was why I ordered it in the first place. If you can't understand that, I don't know what to tell you.
my point about the "go sell your car bit" is that if it pizzes you off that much than why not go to that extreme, the window thing in my oppinion isnt worth the fuss of even calling ford to get it fixed if theyve already decided that they are not going to fix it and instead disable it. But thats my opinion I understand you wanted the feature and that stinks that you cant have it, if it were me I could care less, but if its that big of a deal to you then you go ahead and sue, like I said its your right, I just think its petty and small...but who am I...I am done here. This whole thread is lame.
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you said "you guys are retarded", now how is that saying an idea or mind set is retarded? I don't know what the CC taught you, but that is an attack on those of us considering a law suit.
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Originally posted by moc1976@July 5, 2005, 12:26 PM
you said "you guys are retarded", now how is that saying an idea or mind set is retarded? I don't know what the CC taught you, but that is an attack on those of us considering a law suit.
is anyone else laughing with me? cause I am laughing now.


here you are....accusing me of personal attacks...and while doing so, criticize where I spent my first two years of college...thus attacking me personally.

"You guys are retarded" is not a personal attack.

You think my opinion is "retarded" or wrong, don't you? I'm not crying about it.

get the sand out of your vagina Tim and grow up (yes, THAT was a personal attack...a guy can only take so much).



ok admins/mods, go ahead and close it now. No one here beside me wants to talk about the darn global window feature obviously. 3 times I have said lets go back to topic, yet accusations and LIES about what I supposedly said keep coming up.

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Originally posted by moc1976@July 5, 2005, 12:50 PM
Well, that is your choice isn't it? I honestly don't remember the brochure saying anything about the tires other than the size. I saw no mention of brand, so I'm not sure your comparo holds water. Which is different than saying that the active anti-theft includes global open/close, and then turning it off. It's like I said, it doesn't keep me up at night, but if there was a class-action, I would take part in it! And if you were to decide to do something about the tire issue, I would say to have at it!
Well that is because you are in the US. The Canadian brochure also states "Performance radials" for the upgraded rims and All Season for the regular rims, but guess what. Same tires regardless. To say that my comparo doesn't hold water, well I think it does. There was a picture of the tires on the car on the front page of the brochure. That would lead most people to believe that those tires were available.

Also another point. Pictures of the car in the brochure show the intake cover. Did my car come with one, no. Just another point that just because they show something or state something in a brochure is not a "promise" that you will get it. I think more and more people need to wait until a car arrives and find out what the features are before they order something.
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sorry I know I said I was done but can we stop using "retarded" its not only offensive and not nice to use that word, but not fair to compare those with mental disabilities (who cant help being childlike) to those that are just immature adults who act childlike, the handicap deserve better than that. Lets not lump them into the same group with these guys.

and Surfn the windows go down and up you just have to use the key to go up, that pizzes me off I think I am going to sue BMW for making me want such luxury items in my car.
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Originally posted by SurfnSoCal@July 5, 2005, 1:31 PM
get the sand out of your vagina Tim and grow up (yes, THAT was a personal attack...a guy can only take so much).

Yet another brilliantly thought out response.
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Originally posted by SurfnSoCal@July 5, 2005, 1:19 PM
Does anyone have the Global Window feature, that can ROLL UP their windows? Mine roll down...but not up. :scratch:
Only when I put the key in the drivers door lock to lock it. Hold the key in the lock position and windows roll up. Release the key to stop them from rolling up. I wish the keyfob did this but it doesn't. Maybe I should sue FORD Just kidding guys.
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If I offended anyone here by saying "retarded", I am sorry. I should have said dumbhiney.
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Mods, someone please lock this thread. We all know I am right so there is no point in carrying on
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Originally posted by KansasCityTim@July 5, 2005, 12:35 PM
Yet another brilliantly thought out response.
Wow Tim, you can't let it go...can ya bro? As I said, I have sat here at read your attacks directed toward me for many posts now...a guy can only take so much.

you gonna let this go yet?
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Originally posted by adrenalin@July 5, 2005, 12:36 PM
Mods, someone please lock this thread. We all know I am right so there is no point in carrying on

get off your high horse.
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Originally posted by SurfnSoCal@July 5, 2005, 1:36 PM
If I offended anyone here by saying "retarded", I am sorry. I should have said dumbhiney.
Maybe saying the word retarded was a good thing. I hear a lot of people tell me "You car looks sick!" At first I looked underneath to see if it was leaking or something. Nope. Front end doesn't have a droopy look. Nothing coming out of the rear end. Everything looks good so I guess sick means good these days. So could retarded be a good thing?
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Originally posted by SurfnSoCal@July 5, 2005, 1:39 PM
get off your high horse.
Excuse me! My horse is on sterroids and not hangin with Mary Jane. It is not high
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hmm...better check its temperature with a thermometor. My car is still a baby (7k miles), needs the bottom end thermometer. Atleast I have two tail pipes.
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Originally posted by adrenalin@July 5, 2005, 12:41 PM
Excuse me! My horse is on sterroids and not hangin with Mary Jane. It is not high

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Originally posted by adrenalin@July 5, 2005, 2:43 PM
Original brochure also shows BFGoodrich Gforce KDW tires on the GT and in the Canadian brochure even has them listed as the tire you get when you purchase upgrade rims. I purchased the upgraded rims but got Pirelli tires. Why, because FORD changed their minds and went with Pirellis. The brochure states that basically everything listed is subject to change without notification. So am I going to complain to FORD and try to sue them, no. Am I mad that I didn't get what I thought I was going to get, darn right I am. However, one thing with brochures is you gotta read the fine print. Just because the brochure says it is there doesn't mean it is. Heck, I went on a cruise that showed a pretty cool casino on it in the brochure. Well it was nothing like that at all. When I asked about it they said "we have yet to build a ship like that. The brochure only gives you an indication of what we have to offer. We do have a casino, but not like the one in the brochure."
But the fact is you still got TIRES....they just changed the type of tire. It's not like they said, well, we said nothing of valve stems (or caps) so pay us extra for them...or just exclude them. When I placed my order, I did it specifically for the Global Window feature. If I wanted only an alarm, I could have gotten a Viper alarm where it shows on the FOB for the keyring where an intrusion occured or where someone had tried to get in, among other features, for a VERY good price, but I didn't because I wanted the ant-theft for the global feature.


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