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Old 3/19/05 | 08:49 AM
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All the options of a GT with the exception of the motor, transmission and 17 inch tires, you can get as special order items on the V6. Personally I prefer the wider tire on the V6. As I said before GT's are fine for those mustang fanatics that are in that mode but for me the V6 is a fine Mustang.
Old 3/19/05 | 08:53 AM
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I'm not too impressed with the Mazda 6. I like Mazdas, but not that model.

Bsides, isn't the Mazda 6 FWD?

I don't think it even compares to a Mustang! :nono:

Originally posted by kcrw898@March 19, 2005, 8:46 AM
I did not have the opportunity to test drive a GT because they can't keep them in stock, so I had to test drive a couple V6's, I was impressed, but I'm getting the GT.
As for value of the V6 Mustang? I don't know if I agree, I think I'd get the Mazda 6 which is about the same price as the Mustang V6 and has more options ie. sunroof, heated seats, bose stereo, better mpg's, 220 horses compared to 210. So value in a V6 Mustang?? I'm not quite sure about that.
Old 3/19/05 | 08:53 AM
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Old 3/19/05 | 08:57 AM
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All I'm saying is that if I couldn't get a GT Mustang, I would choose the Mazda 6 over the Mustang V6 because of the added options on the Mazda 6, heated seats, sunroof, the better mpg's on the Mazda 6, even 10 more horsepower than the Mustang V6, etc. I had a 4 cyl. Mustang in the 80's, I just wouldn't settle for a second best Mustang again. If I got the V6, I'd always be wanting MORE in a MUSTANG. And I couldn't bear that again. I like ALL the extras on the GT, and the extras are substantial, as I pointed out before, the GT leather seats are much nicer than the V6, suspension, Pirelli tires! Wheels, etc. Look, I love Mustangs, I've bought one and have one on order! This time around, I just couldn't settle on the V6, that's all! Is that so wrong?
Old 3/19/05 | 09:12 AM
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Originally posted by Hellcat6@March 16, 2005, 9:34 PM
...Just like every other generation of Mustang, future values will be determined by what is under the hood. The V6 will always be a nice car, but future value will be found in the GT...
This was a factor in my decision to go with the GT as well since I plan to keep it indefinitely. I also suspect V8s will go the way of the dinosaurs that fuel them before too long, except perhaps in limited-edition high-dollar rides. I decided to buy one while I still have the chance in case Priuses and their clones become our driving future...
Old 3/19/05 | 09:42 AM
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Originally posted by IWantMyNewGT@March 19, 2005, 11:15 AM
This was a factor in my decision to go with the GT as well since I plan to keep it indefinitely. I also suspect V8s will go the way of the dinosaurs that fuel them before too long, except perhaps in limited-edition high-dollar rides. I decided to buy one while I still have the chance in case Priuses and their clones become our driving future...

Exactly! I want my V8 before they are gone. I already missed the big block craze of the 60's, I'm not going to miss the comeback of the muscle car in 2005! This may be the last gasp for the V8's

That reminds me of the movie "Demolition Man" where the people down in the sewers had that sweet old car. I won't say the name of the car. When everybody else is rolling along in their quiet electric car, I can still be rumbling around town.
Old 3/19/05 | 09:46 AM
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Originally posted by sharkstang@March 16, 2005, 9:35 PM
Hi,

I am new to this site and have been surfing it over the last month or so and find it quite entertaining in general. I am a 2 week old 2005 mustang V6 owner and like most 2005 owners I am really enjoying the crap out of this car. What I am surprised about though is the amount of people on here that are opting for the GT rather then the V6. I hope I don't get reamed out here but I am going to give a list reasons why I oppted for the V6 over the GT and don't understand why so many are dead set on the GT car? Some of my reasoning is fact and some is opinion. For starters:

1. Roughly $5000 or more difference in price (fact)
2. Way more V6's available (fact)
3. More room to deal on the V6 (for the most part fact)
4. Lower insurance rates (fact)
5. Speed limit is 65 MPH in most areas (fact)
6. V6 rims are more retro and work better with the look of the car (opinion)
7. Don't really care for the fog lights (opinon )
8. The V6 is just as nice looking and as fun to drive just not as fast (fact)
9. No 3 month wait to get one in most areas (fact)
10. The more you spend on almost any auto the more you will likely loose ( for the most part fact )

I guess what I am trying to say is the only obvious thing in favor of the GT is its a bit faster yet most seem to be opting for it? I guess if it was maybe $2000 or $2500 more it somewhat makes sense if you have a need for speed. Are we race car drivers? I am not a mustang enthusiest and never owned a mustang before but when I saw the 2005 at the car show close to a year ago I knew I was gonna get one. I even waited 5 months on the 6 to get a better deal. I hope I haven't offended anyone who opted for the GT as I know many are bitter from what they are going through or have been through to get their car and I do feel sorry for the many who have waited months but your time will come. For all those currently driving em enjoy!!!!!! Peace and hail to all the new 2005 mustang owners (GT's and V6's. )
Before the flames start, all models of 'Stangs are great......
-Buying a GT instead of a V6.....$5,000
-wanting the style and foglights of a GT over a V6....$5,000
-beefier "bits" of the GT over the V6....$5,000
-the sweet rumble that the V8 makes over the V6....$5,000
-CRUSHING 99% OF THE CARS ON THE ROAD, SOME COSTING TWICE AS MUCH AS THE MUSTANG GT........PRICELESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Needless to say, the GT is my preference.
Old 3/19/05 | 09:55 AM
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There is no problem with car buyers wanting Mustang GT's, the problem appears on getting some thick headed individuals (an we all know them) to understand that the new V6 as plenty of power admittedly though not as much power as the V8. The original author was trying to indicate that for his purposes the V6 was a fine car and could not understand what all the hype was about the V8. I am currently looking at my brochure it indicates that the leather option is available on the V6 as are all the other options with the exception of the GT engine,transmisison and tires. If the V6 enthusiats wants these options they are available. The problem I have with GT enthusiats is that they tend to figure that driving at 143 mph is legal on city streets because they have the power. The V6 by comparision (Motor Trend) as a top speed of 118 mph. In what city in North America are mustangs owners allowed to drive at these speeds other than a race track? I have had people suggest to me that you have the power if you need it. You would need the power if you are a racer? Must of us are not racers but are mustang enthusiats. My response is need it for what? It was suggest at lunch yesterday that I will not get the throaty roar of the GT with the V6...like I am going to spend an additional $6500-$10,000.00 for a roar? Give me a break! IF I need a "roar" as such the zoo is not far away. :nono:
Old 3/19/05 | 09:55 AM
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Originally posted by rex@March 19, 2005, 10:28 AM
GT's would look much better if they had the black rocker panel like the V6's...the body colored rocker panels on the GT's make the cars look too bloated...V6's are leaner in horsepower, but they are also leaner in appearance which is a definate plus...much truer in appearance to the originals...


pricewise...I paid 500 under dealer invoice...that'salmost all of the holdback for my car...20,600 and supply and demand for GT's with same options is MSRPed at 28,000..if I was "lucky" enough to find mine for MSRP that would be 7400 for the V8 engine upgrade and an additional 480 for sales tax....so that's an 8000 difference....40% from the start...but to each his own...GT owners will be able to make the same argument when the Shelby's and Cobras etc. arrive...Thank God the Mustang is back!

I aggree with you and I kind like the look of the V6 better though looks is in the eye of the beholder. The fog lights I could take or leave em. Either way its maybe $150 piece of plastic. The striping panels on the 6 break up the blandness, the painted rocker panels make it look to thick and almost aftermarket. Its all minor stuff but some people make a big deal about an emblem so I guess everything makes a difference. BTW if anyone wants to change the rims and tires on their 6's to the GT Bullets or machined there all over ebay for a few hundred bucks..........
Old 3/19/05 | 10:03 AM
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Originally posted by poldrv@March 19, 2005, 11:58 AM
I am currently looking at my brochure it indicates that the leather option is available on the V6

:nono: Dude, of course leather is available on the V6!!! But it is not the same leather seats that are on the GT!!!! Check out the photos comparing this in the photo sections of this website. And I, as stated, like the GT leather better than the V6 leather, that's all. There is a difference between the leather that is available in each you know.
Old 3/19/05 | 10:03 AM
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Originally posted by poldrv@March 19, 2005, 11:58 AM
There is no problem with car buyers wanting Mustang GT's, the problem appears on getting some thick headed individuals (an we all know them) to understand that the new V6 as plenty of power admittedly though not as much power as the V8. The original author was trying to indicate that for his purposes the V6 was a fine car and could not understand what all the hype was about the V8. I am currently looking at my brochure it indicates that the leather option is available on the V6 as are all the other options with the exception of the GT engine,transmisison and tires. If the V6 enthusiats wants these options they are available. The problem I have with GT enthusiats is that they tend to figure that driving at 143 mph is legal on city streets because they have the power. The V6 by comparision (Motor Trend) as a top speed of 118 mph. In what city in North America are mustangs owners allowed to drive at these speeds other than a race track? I have had people suggest to me that you have the power if you need it. You would need the power if you are a racer? Must of us are not racers but are mustang enthusiats. My response is need it for what? It was suggest at lunch yesterday that I will not get the throaty roar of the GT with the V6...like I am going to spend an additional $6500-$10,000.00 for a roar? Give me a break! IF I need a "roar" as such the zoo is not far away. :nono:

I like this guy, just typical logic! Amen Brother..............
Old 3/19/05 | 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by kcrw898@March 19, 2005, 11:00 AM
All I'm saying is that if I couldn't get a GT Mustang, I would choose the Mazda 6 over the Mustang V6 because of the added options on the Mazda 6, heated seats, sunroof, the better mpg's on the Mazda 6, even 10 more horsepower than the Mustang V6, etc. I had a 4 cyl. Mustang in the 80's, I just wouldn't settle for a second best Mustang again. If I got the V6, I'd always be wanting MORE in a MUSTANG. And I couldn't bear that again. I like ALL the extras on the GT, and the extras are substantial, as I pointed out before, the GT leather seats are much nicer than the V6, suspension, Pirelli tires! Wheels, etc. Look, I love Mustangs, I've bought one and have one on order! This time around, I just couldn't settle on the V6, that's all! Is that so wrong?

My friend you are not wrong, there is no right or wrong in this case its preference. However if you want the best Mustang you should have maybe waited for the Cobra rather then settling for the GT. Its all good...... Enjoy your ride when it comes in.. Peace!
Old 3/19/05 | 10:17 AM
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Originally posted by sharkstang+March 19, 2005, 12:06 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(sharkstang @ March 19, 2005, 12:06 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-poldrv@March 19, 2005, 11:58 AM
There is no problem with car buyers wanting Mustang GT's, the problem appears on getting some thick headed individuals (an we all know them) to understand that the new V6 as plenty of power admittedly though not as much power as the V8. The original author was trying to indicate that for his purposes the V6 was a fine car and could not understand what all the hype was about the V8. I am currently looking at my brochure it indicates that the leather option is available on the V6 as are all the other options with the exception of the GT engine,transmisison and tires. If the V6 enthusiats wants these options they are available. The problem I have with GT enthusiats is that they tend to figure that driving at 143 mph is legal on city streets because they have the power. The V6 by comparision (Motor Trend) as a top speed of 118 mph. In what city in North America are mustangs owners allowed to drive at these speeds other than a race track? I have had people suggest to me that you have the power if you need it. You would need the power if you are a racer? Must of us are not racers but are mustang enthusiats. My response is need it for what? It was suggest at lunch yesterday that I will not get the throaty roar of the GT with the V6...like I am going to spend an additional $6500-$10,000.00 for a roar? Give me a break! IF I need a "roar" as such the zoo is not far away. :nono:



I like this guy, just typical logic! Amen Brother..............
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It's not just about top speed! It's about being able to easily pass a truck on the highway as well!
Old 3/19/05 | 11:13 AM
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Here is the way I see it,

A V8 GT is a special car. It is hands down the best price/preformance car you can buy. To me, the V6 is nothing more than a Camery/Accord in a nicer styled body. If you want nothing more than a comuter, there are plenty of cars out there that offer the same or more performance than a v6 Mustang and many have a nicer interior, ride, usable rear seats and more storage, etc....

There is a drastic difference in the preformance level of the GT vs the V6. Anyone who thinks otherwise has obviously never driven the GT. I dorve both an auto and 5 speed V6. They are certianly better than the old v6 models, but I doubt they could out run my wife's 280hp Toyota Avalon...

I have to ask all of you V6 owners who are trying to justify your V6 purchase by minimizing the preformance level of the GT:

Just who are you trying to convience, the GT owners or yourselves....?
Old 3/19/05 | 11:27 AM
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Hey Jeff, that's exactly what I've been thinking on this thread, but I wasn't sure how best to put it. I think you did a fine job saying what I've been thinking, and I agree, I believe a V6 is like kissing your sister. Which is why I'd take something like the Mazda 6 over it for the reasons I stated above.
Old 3/19/05 | 11:37 AM
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Reason why I bought V6 is I have Mach1, it has more hp then 05 Mustang GT

and V6 Mustang looks better in front then GT with big spot lights in front end of Mustang GT the V6 has 1970 look of Mustang to it. and the price is another reason to.
Old 3/19/05 | 11:38 AM
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I think we can all agree that the current V6 Mustang is the best non V8 'Stang ever produced and I'm proud to call them family. Remember GT owners, next year when the Cobra debuts, we'll be driving second-best Mustangs as well.
Old 3/19/05 | 11:57 AM
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I agree with you on most part. My previous car was a 2000 V6 and I loved it. I am not the kind of guy that races so It didnt make a difference to me. However, I do like to have some power in accelorating. Let me tell you though when I was trying to sale it I had the toughest time. Everyones 1st question was is it a V8? It took me 3 months to sale it and it was in perfect condition. It was torch red and has all the wisles and bells. It actually looked like a GT with out the dual exhaust and GT emblems. It also had Roush wheels and a awesome Sony Cd player which the display changed 7 color. No schratches or dents I miss it a lot. Everyone loved my car but wanted a V8.

I did some resaerch to find that a V8 holds it value better. I asked my dealership why that was. He said because everyone and there cousin has a V6. They are way too many on the road. The biggest reason was he said because a V6 Stang is also considered a fleet car. You cant rent at about every rental place.

So that is why I went with a V8 so I wont loose as much money in its value. The other reason was yes it is $5,000.00 more which is a good sum of money but it was only another $65.00 a month since I was financing it. $65,00 was worth it to me. Now if we were talking about paying cash for this car I bet many people would have gone with a V6.
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8 pages now, and nobody is better for it, and nobody is going to change their opinion.

If you like the V6, buy it, if you want the added performance of the V8, buy the GT. I like the V6, but I want the GT.

Isn't having a choice GREAT!

Now, I make the choice to not read anymore of this pointless banter. :bang:
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Originally posted by dtdebuty@March 19, 2005, 2:00 PM
I agree with you on most part. My previous car was a 2000 V6 and I loved it. I am not the kind of guy that races so It didnt make a difference to me. However, I do like to have some power in accelorating. Let me tell you though when I was trying to sale it I had the toughest time. Everyones 1st question was is it a V8? It took me 3 months to sale it and it was in perfect condition. It was torch red and has all the wisles and bells. It actually looked like a GT with out the dual exhaust and GT emblems. It also had Roush wheels and a awesome Sony Cd player which the display changed 7 color. No schratches or dents I miss it a lot. Everyone loved my car but wanted a V8.

I did some resaerch to find that a V8 holds it value better. I asked my dealership why that was. He said because everyone and there cousin has a V6. They are way too many on the road. The biggest reason was he said because a V6 Stang is also considered a fleet car. You cant rent at about every rental place.

So that is why I went with a V8 so I wont loose as much money in its value. The other reason was yes it is $5,000.00 more which is a good sum of money but it was only another $65.00 a month since I was financing it. $65,00 was worth it to me. Now if we were talking about paying cash for this car I bet many people would have gone with a V6.

Think about this.. You claim the GT will have better resale which maybe true but it depends when you get rid of it. Without being a smart---- Lets say your GT and my V6 5 years from now have aprrox 70,000 miles and they are both in average condition. Let's say you paid aprox $6000 more for yours new then I paid for mine. Do you honestly think someone or a dealer would pay $6000 more for yours 5 years from now with the same milage in the same condition? If you think so then obviously don't know the car business very well. We would be lucky if either car would be worth much more the $6000 5 years from now with 70,000 in average condition. Mustang or not used cars that old for the most part are worth a fraction of their original cost. Now if both cars were mint condition and had only a few thousand miles on them it may be a different story....


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