ford20

Kind of like this?

Blue Notch

I thought Diana drove a focus...and didn't have any kids.

Rather B.Blown

I wish I could do that and have it help.


You're obviously not feeding that boy enough BBQ and Southern food. You're starving him, I'm calling CPS on your ****.


Well I've been thinking about replacing one of the Exploders with a new one since they're getting up there in miles (200K on the Limited and 260K on the XLT) but that's probably not going to happen. I looked at a new one that would be the equivalent of the Limited yesterday. 52 thousand ****ing dollars. Oh, hell no. That ain't happening. I'm not giving $50K+ for a damned Explorer that I'll drive off road. Sorry Ford, you've priced yourselves out of what I'll give for your vehicles. Its not that I can't afford it, its just that my conscience and my cheap **** upbringing wont let me do it. Look, I love Explorers, I've been driving them for 20 years and have put close to 1 million miles combined on the ones I've owned through the years, but you have finally pushed guys like me into the market for something else (I hope you're happy because I'm a die hard Ford man).

I'll be looking used (and other brands), and from the looks of things, WELL used. That is ****ing ridiculous.

You're packages are idiotic. Why in the hell can't I get an XLT with AWD, the Ecoboost 6 cyl, leather interior, power seats and nothing else?

Blue Notch

I wish the sports came in DIB. My mom's looking at getting one in the coming months. She likes DIB (so do I), but I think she should get the sport.

But no, they're nothing like the older ones.

Rather B.Blown

I just can't do it Nate, my mind wont let me give that much money for something that I'll drive out west and through Death Valley (ever been down the back roads of Death Valley?), the back woods mountain roads of Colorado, Washington, Utah, South Dakota, etc., the National Forest service roads around here that are rough as a corn cob and dirt washboards, etc. I just can't give that kind of money for a vehicle that will get "driven" like that and it still be basically a FWD Taurus on top of all that.

Listen up Ford, I'm looking at a diesel Grand Cherokee. Much better mileage for day to day driving, MUCH better torque (especially when you're out West in 10K foot elevations) and REAR WHEEL DRIVE based.

Blue Notch

That's our road right there.

Sad thing is most people don't take their cars off-road. They just need a kid hauler and no one wants to be seen in a minivan.

What about dropping a coyote into one of yours? I'd do it in a heartbeat if I had the money.

Rather B.Blown

Its not the engines that I'm concerned about. I put a Jasper engine in the XLT at 220k miles, and I'm not worried about the Limited at all, its a 5.0. I can build a 5.0 myself practically blindfolded. Its the transmissions that I'm worried about. Get out west in the middle of Utah or somewhere thousands of miles from home and it ****s the bed and I'm screwed. Thousands of dollars to get it fixed just to get back home when I could have bought something newer and then have that much more money sunk into it.

I'm just torn right now because I love both of these so much and they fulfill my needs of what each of them are for, and I don't (or can't stand to) want to spend 50K on something that I don't think will ever last like what I've got now.

Blue Notch

I get what you mean. $50k is crazy for a new car. Can you buy something a little newer, but used and just keep what you have now for your around town stuff?

Rather B.Blown

I'm keeping the Limited, I love that car. Plus the 5.0 is a bonus and I can do anything I want to it myself. Bore, stroke, heads, cam, S/C etc. If I replace one it will be the XLT, even though I've spent all that money on a new engine. I'd keep it too, just to drive in the woods around here but paying that insurance just to have it for certain trips irritates me. I'll definitely be looking used after what I've seen lately. Maybe even drop down to an Edge if its big enough in back for what I need.

Blue Notch

The Edge is not very big at all. Unless you put the rear seat down. But how people get by with them is beyond me.

And a supercharged explorer = I want more power.

shurtual86

It should hold a couple crates of moonshine

cdynaco

laserred38

I know what Lee is saying, and I'm kinda in the same boat, but I've beaten the CRAP out of my Escape and had it places where no stock car-based SUV should have been able to go. I went down a steep trail, balancing on two wheels at one point, and eventually had to go back up that trail, pedal to the medal with the tires spinning to get traction up the hill. Definitely a near death experience, but what a rush! Either way, I know what you mean about being in the middle of nowhere and fearing the transmission or spindly suspension parts breaking. The difference is, I just forged ahead and believed that it WOULD hold up....

laserred38

Trust me, that trail in the first two pics is WAY steeper and rougher than it looks. I couldn't capture the depth on my phone.

Scothew

it didn't help :/ I barely got out if the floor.

Oh trust me he eats. He's 8 and bigger than most 10-11 yr olds in his school. Taller and just solid muscle.

jerseygirl

Good morning everyone

2k7gtcs

On Wednesday of this week it will have been 2 years since my 16 year old nephew died unexpectedly.

Well last night his dog passed away unexpectedly. The dog was only 4 years old and the vet thinks it was poisoned.

The world sucks

jerseygirl

I'm sorry hun :hug:

GottaHaveIt

Reason for concern , **** sorry to here this Gary.
I hope somebody looks into it for obvios reasons
😢

DarrenGT

That is truly sad and tragic. The world does suck, and full of degenerates who don't deserve to live.

Condolences