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6/8/11, 12:12 PM
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I don't know about you, but it's afternoon here. 
6/8/11, 12:41 PM
6/8/11, 12:49 PM
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6/8/11, 12:53 PM
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Unfortunately, the few structure fires I've seen them at over the years, they let the place burn to the ground. They mainly work to keep it from spreading.
And although they would be first for any forest fire, that is usually taken over immediately by State & Fed crews and the bombers.
Their busiest activity is ambulence for highway accidents during winter ice and snow.
But they saved my bacon when my stallion ate me, so I help at all their fund raisers!
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6/8/11, 01:12 PM
Wow. No wonder the community VFA is always doing fund raisers. Matching grants. lol The last 5 yrs they added an ambulence, upgraded rigs, and just finished a diesel generator for new fuel tanks. I never hear the politico's talking about how much grant money is in the budget, but it must be pretty huge.
Unfortunately, the few structure fires I've seen them at over the years, they let the place burn to the ground. They mainly work to keep it from spreading.
And although they would be first for any forest fire, that is usually taken over immediately by State & Fed crews and the bombers.
Their busiest activity is ambulence for highway accidents during winter ice and snow.
But they saved my bacon when my stallion ate me, so I help at all their fund raisers!
Unfortunately, the few structure fires I've seen them at over the years, they let the place burn to the ground. They mainly work to keep it from spreading.
And although they would be first for any forest fire, that is usually taken over immediately by State & Fed crews and the bombers.
Their busiest activity is ambulence for highway accidents during winter ice and snow.
But they saved my bacon when my stallion ate me, so I help at all their fund raisers!
We just got new turnout gear as well off the 2009 grant and also 20 new airpacks.
the AFG grant requires a 10% match. Each of our trucks was 225k so we put out like 22k on each, well worth the money imo. I think our combined grants since we started is about 675k worth of trucks and gear. Mind you, this department has only been running since late 2003.
We do fundraisers through our association as well, but that goes to buy smaller things like personal streamlights for our volunteers and shirts etc, things that the bigger grants adn such cant really apply towards. But if your department isnt applying for grants through fema, they are missing out. Its well worth the time and effort to put together a narrative and try. All they can tell you is no
http://www.fema.gov/firegrants/index.shtm
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6/8/11, 01:22 PM
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im on my way....
melting and cooking and dying here.....
http://www.wunderground.com/US/NJ/Caldwell.html ....91 and feels like 100.....
melting and cooking and dying here.....
http://www.wunderground.com/US/NJ/Caldwell.html ....91 and feels like 100.....
6/8/11, 01:35 PM
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).They get grants from somewhere, don't know if its FEMA or not.
My area also has a special property tax for the local VFA fire & ems, plus another fee that is either County, State, or Fed. Not sure but there are only a few subdivisions and a resort here that are surrounded by Nat'l Forest. They say about 500 people but I don't think that many are year round. I'll call it a State fee.
I have 3 tax lots, one 5 acre and two 1 acre. So there's the 'Fire Patrol Surcharge + Timber' State fee on all three. But what's funny is the local VFA adds a pretty large fee on the homesite (understandable), but one of the 1 acre has a small shed - so it gets the fee, whereas the other 1 acre that has no building does not have the fee. I mean the shed is like 12x15 - its nothing, not a homesite, but I have to pay extra for it. lol I think its odd because the real fear here is forest fire so you would think they would add the local fee on each tax lot like they do the State fee.
Another anomoly is the gen will also run the (fairly new) deep well (another grant). Which probably is pretty slow filling the pumper trucks. But we're on a 100,000 ACRE fresh water lake!! The fire hall dang near sits on it! lol But ever since the 2001 Water Wars (Klamath Bucket Brigade defies Feds...) broke out between irrigators and the sucker fish and downriver tribes, I bet EPA or ESA would fine them if they draw water from the lake... while the forest burns.
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6/8/11, 02:11 PM
I always wondered why they are constantly fund raising. I mean besides maintenance, what was wrong with the older trucks? They weren't that old. Don't know, but I don't question (see I occassionally know how to keep my opinions to myself ).
They get grants from somewhere, don't know if its FEMA or not.
My area also has a special property tax for the local VFA fire & ems, plus another fee that is either County, State, or Fed. Not sure but there are only a few subdivisions and a resort here that are surrounded by Nat'l Forest. They say about 500 people but I don't think that many are year round. I'll call it a State fee.
I have 3 tax lots, one 5 acre and two 1 acre. So there's the 'Fire Patrol Surcharge + Timber' State fee on all three. But what's funny is the local VFA adds a pretty large fee on the homesite (understandable), but one of the 1 acre has a small shed - so it gets the fee, whereas the other 1 acre that has no building does not have the fee. I mean the shed is like 12x15 - its nothing, not a homesite, but I have to pay extra for it. lol I think its odd because the real fear here is forest fire so you would think they would add the local fee on each tax lot like they do the State fee.
Another anomoly is the gen will also run the (fairly new) deep well (another grant). Which probably is pretty slow filling the pumper trucks. But we're on a 100,000 ACRE fresh water lake!! The fire hall dang near sits on it! lol But ever since the 2001 Water Wars (Klamath Bucket Brigade defies Feds...) broke out between irrigators and the sucker fish and downriver tribes, I bet EPA or ESA would fine them if they draw water from the lake... while the forest burns.
).They get grants from somewhere, don't know if its FEMA or not.
My area also has a special property tax for the local VFA fire & ems, plus another fee that is either County, State, or Fed. Not sure but there are only a few subdivisions and a resort here that are surrounded by Nat'l Forest. They say about 500 people but I don't think that many are year round. I'll call it a State fee.
I have 3 tax lots, one 5 acre and two 1 acre. So there's the 'Fire Patrol Surcharge + Timber' State fee on all three. But what's funny is the local VFA adds a pretty large fee on the homesite (understandable), but one of the 1 acre has a small shed - so it gets the fee, whereas the other 1 acre that has no building does not have the fee. I mean the shed is like 12x15 - its nothing, not a homesite, but I have to pay extra for it. lol I think its odd because the real fear here is forest fire so you would think they would add the local fee on each tax lot like they do the State fee.
Another anomoly is the gen will also run the (fairly new) deep well (another grant). Which probably is pretty slow filling the pumper trucks. But we're on a 100,000 ACRE fresh water lake!! The fire hall dang near sits on it! lol But ever since the 2001 Water Wars (Klamath Bucket Brigade defies Feds...) broke out between irrigators and the sucker fish and downriver tribes, I bet EPA or ESA would fine them if they draw water from the lake... while the forest burns.
Im not sure on the shed fee.. that sounds a bit over the top, but we do charge boat house and other structure fee's.. well we dont, the county does, its added into their property tax.
I find it hard to believe that they cant draw water from a large lake. Filling off a well is using the same water tabel
The beauty of our tankers is taht they are self servicing, you dont need a hydrant or engine with a pump to draft water and pump into the tank. I can pull up to any free standing water source and drain it dry Acctually I can hook it up to a hydrant, and could acctually blow out the lines in the area if i tried to use the vacuum pump on them. they might get a tad mad. 
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6/8/11, 02:16 PM
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Property taxes are super high in OR (no sales tax), coupled with a crap economy in the rural Counties, so there's a constant battle not to add further. (Jail levy just failed even though 2/3 capacity is now closed because there's no more money.) In fact they passed a limitation several years ago because it is so outrageous per 1k. They can only raise up to 3%/yr - and even in the recent "deflation years" they still took 3% more.
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6/8/11, 03:24 PM
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Neither have I. 
Good luck and stay safe!
Might get up to 80 here today. Another reason to love MN. The weather is different every day of the week.
I woke up this morning to my dad having my brother practice his baseball pitching. Where was his target? THREE FEET IN FRONT OF MY CAR!!! Why can't people just use their brains?!!!
Good luck and stay safe!
Might get up to 80 here today. Another reason to love MN. The weather is different every day of the week.
I woke up this morning to my dad having my brother practice his baseball pitching. Where was his target? THREE FEET IN FRONT OF MY CAR!!! Why can't people just use their brains?!!!
6/8/11, 03:25 PM
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looks awesome cody!
6/8/11, 03:28 PM
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sup peeps?
I feel like Lee a bit here, been at the beach all week. Weather is absolutely f'n perfect, mid 80's and sunny everyday with a nice breeze. Stupendous beach weather! Been playing alot of games and cards, and I've gotten mucho better at body surfing waves. Ocean has been quite rewarding!
Hate to see the week end honestly. But then I can hopefully get back to work, and get some money to work on the Mustang. She needs some goodies.
I feel like Lee a bit here, been at the beach all week. Weather is absolutely f'n perfect, mid 80's and sunny everyday with a nice breeze. Stupendous beach weather! Been playing alot of games and cards, and I've gotten mucho better at body surfing waves. Ocean has been quite rewarding!
Hate to see the week end honestly. But then I can hopefully get back to work, and get some money to work on the Mustang. She needs some goodies.
6/8/11, 03:29 PM
6/8/11, 03:37 PM
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After 2 years you still won't give up about that **** nut. How the hell would I ever live down blowing up the entire car? Stupid stuff is always happening to me. I can only wonder why...
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Originally Posted by Blue Notch
After 2 years you still won't give up about that **** nut. How the hell would I ever live down blowing up the entire car? Stupid stuff is always happening to me. I can only wonder why...
