Blue Notch

Time for bed. Later people.

2k7gtcs

Who do you think you are calling 'people'?!?!



Later dude.

StangMahn

you guys are aboslutely right. and that's what I would do as well. it may not seem like all that much of a big thing right now, but an act like that will leave a huge impression. I know if someone did that for me, I'd help them out as much as i could with w/e I could. I'm still a believer in the fact that a man is nothing without a decent reputation.

Rather B.Blown

I wonder how many strings had to be yanked to pull this off in the world's busiest airport with all of the security issues and such that are involved now?

Watch the whole thing, I actually thought it was pretty cool.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBAHs...ayer_embedded#

cdynaco

While that's true, its not like Gary did anything wrong or purposely stuck somebody. Time and unforseen occurrence befall us all - including when we buy used vehicles. As is means as is. I always write up a Bill of Sale that states certain parameters in addition to the State Title.

If the guy should question the vehicle's soundness at the time of sale, present service records.

Besides, it could also be true that the guy went hard core four wheelin' and didn't treat the trans properly.

Rather B.Blown

True, but a man's legal responsibility and moral responsibility are 2 different things. The fact that he knows the guy to be a good person, and has a business relationship with him changes things significantly. If it was some joe blow off of the street that he had never met and might not ever see again it would be different. And I don't care how rough he treated the vehicle, with only 30k miles, and only 8 weeks since he sold it, there is a problem there. Is it Gary's responsibility? Legally, no. It was a used car. But the fact that this is someone he knows and has to deal with on a regular basis makes it a wise decision for him to step up and at least offer to help rectify the problem. It make him look like the better man in the long run. Even if the guy says he knows that Gary wouldn't try to screw him, you and I both know that it will be forever in the back of his mind that maybe he did know and didn't say anything. A gesture to help rectify the problem would alleviate the problem and will go a long way in future dealings.

Scenario #1
The guy is sitting around with his drinking buddies in the future and one of them asks, "do you know Gary _______?" And he says "Yeah, I know him, seems like a good dude, BUT, I bought a $30K truck from him one time that he said was perfect, and 2 months later the ******* transmission fell out of it and he acted like it was my fault. Didn't even offer to help me out with it.

Scenario #2

The guy is sitting around with his drinking buddies and one of them asks, "do you know Gary________?" And he says "Yeah, I know him. I bought a $30K truck from him one time and 2 months later the ******* transmission fell out of it. You know what he did? He offered to pay half of the repair bill and apologized for what happened. I knew it wasn't his fault, but I realized what kind of person he was. I wouldn't hesitate to make any kind of deal with him or do business with his company. He's a **** good man that has no problem standing behind his word.

Things like that spread like wildfire in a small community, especially when it comes to business owners. That 900 bucks could possibly be worth big bucks in the future as word gets around as to what type of morals Gary has. Good practices in personal dealings translate well into business morals when the rumor mill gets cranked up.

GottaHaveIt

Well put sir !

Blue Notch

Nothing all day?

Waiting for my class to start. 4.5 hours to go.

cdynaco

I understand all that. I do. And if Gary chooses to help with the repair out of the kindness of his heart - and to maintain a business relationship - that would be above board.

But I disagree with how you are implying Gary even has a moral responsibility. The truck ran fine when he sold it according to the info I've read. Was the price fair for a used truck? If so then the discount for potential repairs on a used vehicle is priced in. And if Gary represented it fairly, he has neither a legal or moral responsibility. Machines can and do break.

You are sort of setting Gary up for being a bad guy if he chooses not to help with the repair.

As far as the small town gossip goes, you are assuming that the 'good news' (in the event of Gary helping with the repair) would be repeated accurately. When it comes to small town gossip, neither good news or bad news is ever repeated accurately. Only a handful of Gary's inside circle would know. And if the buyer is kind of a jerk (or his friends are), he'll take the help, but from now on feel he 'got a lemon from that Gary', and any repair from here on out will be 'because of that Gary'.

Small town gossip is a no win situation. And regardless what you do - stand on principle or bend over - once the beatches get cacklin' you're gonna get some chicken scratch on you.

So IMO, Gary would be setting himself up for future liability (and even worse future gossip) if he is 'too eager' to help. And there's a potential legal issue in the future if Gary 'admits' (by his actions) the truck was defective by his being too willing to help (I'd run it by my shark). I'd stand on the service records and the fact he sold a used truck at a used truck price 'as is'.

GottaHaveIt

If Gary does decide to help I think a written as to why he is doing so should be there to no leave thy self open & liable , so a prenump agreement should be done.

jerseygirl

hello...hope everyone is doing good..

update on grandma: been in the hospital for the past 3 days and has to stay 6-10 more...is having heart and kidney problems...shes pissed at my mom for taking her to the hospital due to the fact she wanted to die in her own home..

all i wish right now is to be in Ukraine with them

denlem

It's hard when you want to be there. I just lost my step-dad last night. He hadn't been feeling well and Monday after Easter my mother took him to the doctor. From there they sent him straight to the hospital. He had pnumonia and never recovered from it.

GottaHaveIt

Dang I feel bad for everyones situation and wish that I could trade off some low life criminal that's just wasteing air to take place of those that should live !

Blue Notch

Sorry to hear guys. I'll keep your families in my prayers.

cdynaco

It always amazes me how sneaky pneumonia is. Many just think they have a cough or a cold and then it is suddenly too far along to reverse.

Condolences.

edumspeed

Now that's a strange thing to happen with such a low mileage vehicle
I know how you feel. But you need to stay strong for both your mom and grandmas behalf. They will need your moral support and strength. My best wishes for your grandma.
So sad to hear about your step-dad.

Blue Notch

Anyone else get the email from AM today to save $15 if you spend $100? Says it's three days only, but they don't give the specific dates.

mustangGT90210

That sucks dude

I'm kinda iffy on helping to pay or not though, it would help your business relationship a bit, but it wasn't your fault at all. Like Charlie said, there's really no way to win here, offer up front too willingly and he'll think you knew something was up and just happened to have the money to pay for it right away, or do nothing except apologize and he'll think you knew anyway.

denlem

That's pretty much how it went. He survived an aneurism, major heart surgery, throat cancer, prostate cancer, and a hip replacement. Then this sneaks up on him. He was 75 and his mother is still kicking at 99!

08GTCandyApple

+1 Sorry to hear it guys. Losing someone close is never easy