What DON'T you want to see in the next gen Mustang?
6/11/13, 11:35 AM
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6/11/13, 12:14 PM
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I don't want to see a sports car... I want to still see a muscle car with packages that make it a strong contender on the track yet always on the edge of losing it. It is still a Mustang, so it should retain that smile yielding scariness.
6/11/13, 05:26 PM
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Well, you could always take your sports car level handling 2015 Mustang and swap out for a set of skinny mileage-master bias ply tires, blown shocks, worn bushings and played out steering to get your '60's era muscle car cloddishness. Me, I'd prefer 21st century level dynamic excellence.
6/11/13, 05:56 PM
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Well, you could always take your sports car level handling 2015 Mustang and swap out for a set of skinny mileage-master bias ply tires, blown shocks, worn bushings and played out steering to get your '60's era muscle car cloddishness. Me, I'd prefer 21st century level dynamic excellence.
6/11/13, 08:17 PM
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Thankfully the new Ford management had better judgment by turning the new mustang into a world class sports car, and not a muscle builder with a bulky upper body with skinny little legs. I'am glad that Ford didn't listen to the "Track Mafia" this time around.
6/12/13, 06:22 AM
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Good. Buy yourself a Fox body Mustang and problem solved.
6/12/13, 07:43 AM
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Keeping it simple, I don't want to see the drink holder in the console directly behind my elbow where I constantly hit it when shifting. I don't want to see a 12VDC power outlet located high in the center of the dash. I would like to see a "phone / ipad pocket" located on the side of the console.
6/12/13, 09:07 AM
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Well, you could always take your sports car level handling 2015 Mustang and swap out for a set of skinny mileage-master bias ply tires, blown shocks, worn bushings and played out steering to get your '60's era muscle car cloddishness. Me, I'd prefer 21st century level dynamic excellence.
You know that feeling you get when your sitting at a redlight?
I'll explain.
It's early Saturday morning and the air is crisp, quiet. No one else is awake, not even the birds. The hard week is over and it's time for some fun. So, you sit there anticipating the light change.
Both feet are on the pedals and pressed to the floor, launch control engaged and holding steady at 3500rpms, exhaust moaning as it gets ready to scream. The Twin-Turbo six cylinder is taking in its first big breath of the run. Your hands are squeezing tighter as you get ready to hold on. Then the light drops. You pull your brake foot off and you're instantly thrown back into your seat. You're head slams the headrest as your car flies from zero to forty without even a chirp, traction control is distributing your ungodly amount of power and torque to all four corners. DSG is shuffling gears like a black jack dealer in Vegas; too quick to follow the order. Then you're to sixty, eighty!, a hundred!!, one-twenty!! Turbo is spooling higher and louder than your brain can hear. You know you should slow down but nothing is around for miles! You near one-sixty and your foot involuntarily lets off because your brain is having too much fun to tell it to.
This to me sounds awesome!
It even probably soon will describe most performance cars.
My brother has a 135i, auto, twin-turbos, tuned... its awesome!
His words though... It's extremely fast... but its just too easy. All I have to do is press a couple buttons on the steering wheel and press down on the pedal. It does the rest! Kinda takes the driver out of it.
He USED to have an '05 Saleen and before that a couple GTs.
I'm all for advancements in every category and I think the future mustang will be all the above! And it SHOULD.
BUT it should also have options that keep it a driver input car too. A 6 or 7 speed MANUAL transmission even when a DSG is obviously faster, RWD when AWD is probably better, a V8 when a TT-V6 would be more fuel efficient with still nuts power... it should still be a Mustang.
Driver Aides are NOT what everyone wants. Even if it does make them faster.
I never said I wanted a '60s handling Mustang... I just still want to hear Randy Pobst from Motor Trend say geez it is hard to control but it sure is fun as he smiles going around Laguna Seca.
I like the way the Mustang has been heading so far... advanced but still a handful.
6/12/13, 09:26 AM
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6/12/13, 10:09 AM
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I think perhaps your mixing dynamic competance with driver involvement, which can and often are, nowzadayz, two very different things. As with your 135i example, it is extremely competent and capable but perhaps with a driving experience a bit removed from the driver. I think perhaps what we would all want is a much enhanced level of capability and competence from the new Mustand all while retaining a high-level of driver involvement and interaction.
Highly capable cars can be highly involving too, though in this day of the everpresent electronic nannies, electronic steering (which is hard to tune for genuine feel) and excess mass, true driver involvement is getting a bit harder to find.
Highly capable cars can be highly involving too, though in this day of the everpresent electronic nannies, electronic steering (which is hard to tune for genuine feel) and excess mass, true driver involvement is getting a bit harder to find.
6/12/13, 10:28 AM
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I think perhaps your mixing dynamic competance with driver involvement, which can and often are, nowzadayz, two very different things. As with your 135i example, it is extremely competent and capable but perhaps with a driving experience a bit removed from the driver. I think perhaps what we would all want is a much enhanced level of capability and competence from the new Mustand all while retaining a high-level of driver involvement and interaction.
Highly capable cars can be highly involving too, though in this day of the everpresent electronic nannies, electronic steering (which is hard to tune for genuine feel) and excess mass, true driver involvement is getting a bit harder to find.
Highly capable cars can be highly involving too, though in this day of the everpresent electronic nannies, electronic steering (which is hard to tune for genuine feel) and excess mass, true driver involvement is getting a bit harder to find.
6/12/13, 02:59 PM
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