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Old Mar 26, 2015 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Mustang Freak
I hate biscuits!
That's just because you've never had a famous 25th anniversary biscuit!!
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Old Mar 26, 2015 | 08:26 PM
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There was nothing special about them anyhow Rob lol.
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Old Mar 26, 2015 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by m05fastbackGT
There was nothing special about them anyhow Rob lol.
Yes there was!! They were given extra fluff by using the lubrication grease from a 1964 1/2 Mustang generator!!! You dare not speak ill of the 25th biscuit!!
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Old Mar 26, 2015 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 3point7
Yes there was!! They were given extra fluff by using the lubrication grease from a 1964 1/2 Mustang generator!!! You dare not speak ill of the 25th biscuit!!
Oops ! you're right, I shouldn't speak ill of those 25th biscuits because my first fox body was one of them
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Old Mar 26, 2015 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by m05fastbackGT
The reason is because the '15 is the 50th.. As for the first production Mustangs are concerned although they were built in calender year 1964, they were also built during the early stages of the "1965" model year which is exactly why those first production Mustangs were titled as "65" models by Ford to begin with, as Ford goes by model year, not calender year..
And that's what I'm sayin...

That said, I prefer my biscuits served on the 5's rather than the 4's...

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Old Mar 27, 2015 | 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by m05fastbackGT
Not only did I accept your project assignment, but according to my research findings.. The Euro Focus was introduced in the U.S in 2011 and began production in late 2010..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Focus

Third generation (2011–present)[edit]
Main article: Ford Focus (third generation)

Ford Focus Sedan (North America)
In 2010 Ford decided to reunite both international and North American models by releasing the international Mk3 worldwide. The previous North American version was discontinued, and the new model was launched simultaneously in North America and Europe in early 2011, both having started production late in 2010.[5][6]

Ford unveiled the 2011 global Ford Focus at the 2010 North American International Auto Show. The car shown was a 5-door hatchback model, also debuting a new 2.0L direct injection I4 engine. A 5-door estate will also be available at launch.[7] The new generation launched simultaneously in North America and Europe in early 2011, with production having started in late 2010.[6] Production in Asia, Africa, Australia[8] and South America was scheduled to follow later but the plan for Australian production was later dropped and that market and New Zealand were supplied, along with Asia, from a new factory in Thailand where output began in June 2012. This new generation of Focus incorporates a redesigned cabin with improved materials and new entertainment technologies. A 2015 model for the Ford Focus has been exhibited on the Ford website. Its chassis design is much like the 2013 model, but the front has been facelifted with elongated and darkened headlamps, and a grille that is designed to look like the Fusion, or C-max. It will be available early 2015, according to Ford.[9]



The 2015 Focus is refresh of the current 2011- present model, therefore no platform changes at present..



Model year has everything to do with calender year in the automotive world, otherwise the first production Mustang would had been titled by Ford as a 1964 model and not as a 1965 model when it was introduced on April 17th of 1964 which also btw began the start of the 1965 model year


Great findings but my point about model year (MY) and calendar year (CY) having not much to do with each other is highlighted in your results.


2010 CY, the 2011 (MY) European and the 2012 (MY) North American Focus were introduced and went into production later that year. A 2012 (MY) Focus in 2010 (CY). I am sure if it were a Mustang it would be called a 2011 (MY) by the enthusiasts.


Now, on to the 2015 (MY)...released for sale in 2015 (CY). If the 2016 (MY) is released at a traditional time (Fall of 2015) then the 2015 (MY) will be only a few months long while the 2012 (MY) was way over a year.\


The point? The MY of a vehicle is whatever it is called by the manufacturer and not by public opinion. The car produced in 1964 called the Mustang was a 1965 model. The 2015 is the 50th anniversary model.
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Old Mar 27, 2015 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by wildsailor
The point? The MY of a vehicle is whatever it is called by the manufacturer and not by public opinion. The car produced in 1964 called the Mustang was a 1965 model. The 2015 is the 50th anniversary model.
That was pretty much my point from the very beginning.. And yes ! The MY of a vehicle is indeed whatever called by the manufacturer and not by public opinion.. Therefore my point about model year vs calender year is accurate as the car produced in 1964 called the Mustang was an early 1965 MY produced during the beginning stages of the 1965 model year in April of 64..

With that said, Ford got it right this time, as the 2015 is the official 50th anniversary model.. On the other hand however, the 2005 Mustang should had been the real 40th anniversary model and not the outgoing 2004 SN-95 !
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Old Mar 27, 2015 | 12:35 PM
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From a legal perspective, a model year only has to have Jan 1 of the year if professes to be in and it cannot have two Jan 1's in its production.. For example, on January 2, 2016, Ford could introduce the 2017 Mustang as long as they continued through Jan 1, 2017 with it. Likewise, you could get almost two years from a model year and run Jan 2 2016-Dec 31 2017 with a 2017 model year.

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Old Mar 27, 2015 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by KC3333
And that's what I'm sayin...

That said, I prefer my biscuits served on the 5's rather than the 4's...
My apologies for misinterpreting you KC ! Seems that we just got our signals crossed and weren't on the same page lol.

However we're on the same page now, and that's all that really matters and I couldn't agree more, as I also prefer my biscuits served on the 5's just as it should be rather than the 4's
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Old Mar 27, 2015 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by SpectreH
From a legal perspective, a model year only has to have Jan 1 of the year if professes to be in and it cannot have two Jan 1's in its production.. For example, on January 2, 2016, Ford could introduce the 2017 Mustang as long as they continued through Jan 1, 2017 with it. Likewise, you could get almost two years from a model year and run Jan 2 2016-Dec 31 2017 with a 2017 model year.
I see where your coming from David.. As Ford extended their production runs with the Mustang at least twice to my knowledge..

As Ford extended production on the outgoing SN-95 platform which delayed production of the 2005 S197 models until July/August of 2004, otherwise the 2005 Mustang would had been the 40th Anniversary model as it technically should had been to begin with..

Although the 2015 was introduced on the 50th Anniversary of the original 1965 Mustang.. It's actual production was delayed until fall of 2014..

Therefore what I don't understand is this.. Why is it that Ford couldn't had at least introduced the 2005 Mustang on the Anniversary date, just as they did for the current 2015 model despite the production delay
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Old Mar 27, 2015 | 01:17 PM
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what year is indicated on the vin number of the supposed 64 and 1/2 versus the 65 ?
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Old Mar 27, 2015 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by HOSS429
what year is indicated on the vin number of the supposed 64 and 1/2 versus the 65 ?
Willie ! There was never an official 1964 1/2 Mustang.. The vin number on the first Mustang that was introduced by Ford on April 17th of 1964 was vinned as a 1965 MY during the beginning stages of the 65 model year..

The term 64 1/2 was referred to by enthusiasts and by the media, as there were differences between the early 65 model over the 65 job II models that came out later in the fall.. The early 65's were mostly known for using generators that carried over from the 64 model line up and their were also slight cosmetic differences in the hood and front valance..

Anyway, hope this answers your question

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Old Mar 27, 2015 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by m05fastbackGT
Willie ! There was never an official 1964 1/2 Mustang.. The vin number on the first Mustang that was introduced by Ford on April 17th of 1964 was vinned as a 1965 MY during the beginning stages of the 65 model year..

The term 64 1/2 was referred to by enthusiasts and by the media, as there were differences between the early 65 model over the 65 job II models that came out later in the fall.. The early 65's were mostly known for using generators that carried over from the 64 model line up and their were also slight cosmetic differences in the hood and front valance..

Anyway, hope this answers your question
On a similar note, there never was a "Pony Car" class either. The origin of the term "Pony Car" came from Car Life Magazine back in 1964 in an article about the Mustang in which the term was used as a descriptive term, not a class. Over the years many people have mistakenly described cars like the Camaro and other's as a "Pony Car." There is no such thing as a Pony Car class and if there were it would be a class of only one car, that being the Mustang.
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Old Mar 27, 2015 | 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 3point7
On a similar note, there never was a "Pony Car" class either. The origin of the term "Pony Car" came from Car Life Magazine back in 1964 in an article about the Mustang in which the term was used as a descriptive term, not a class. Over the years many people have mistakenly described cars like the Camaro and other's as a "Pony Car." There is no such thing as a Pony Car class and if there were it would be a class of only one car, that being the Mustang.
You're exactly 100% spot on Rob ! Just as you said the term "Pony Car" came from the media used in descriptive terms and then over the years caught on with purists/enthusiasts alike, however as you also mentioned many of those people would later associate the term when describing the Mustang's counterparts such as the Barracuda, Camaro, Firebird and Challenger as "Pony Cars" due to being within the same class.. But just as you said, there has never been an official "Pony Car" class nor has such a class ever really existed, although I totally agree that if such a class did exist ? it would indeed belong only to the Mustang
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Old Mar 27, 2015 | 05:45 PM
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Well I still call em pony cars and you can't make me stop! :nanana:
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Old Mar 27, 2015 | 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Mustang Freak
Well I still call em pony cars and you can't make me stop! :nanana:
Feel free to be as wrong as you wanna be. lol
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Old Mar 27, 2015 | 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 3point7
Feel free to be as wrong as you wanna be. lol
I'm not alone in this thought but then I don't really care what you think anyhow! :-)
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Old Mar 27, 2015 | 06:28 PM
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I'm not alone in this thought but then I don't really care what you think anyhow! :-)
Makes two of us.
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Old Mar 27, 2015 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Mustang Freak
Well I still call em pony cars and you can't make me stop! :nanana:
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Old Mar 27, 2015 | 07:18 PM
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Feel free to be as wrong as you wanna be. lol
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