Overboost

The car will show up in 2014 as a 2015 model. Just like the original. While they probably won't carry the 1/2 year title, they'll have some reference to the original when the complete redesign hits lots.

Topnotch

Sorry...it will show up in 2013 as a 2014 Model....

Overboost

Are we really going to start this again?

bee bop

Hate to burst anyone bubble, but there was no 64 1/2 mustang. They were 1965 models. The 64 1/2 designation came about because the early cars had generators where the later cars switched to an alternator. All of the first Mustangs were registered as a 1965 model.

Eagle-1

In order for the 15' MY mustang to be the 50th anniversay then that means all of the previous MY anniversary edition mustangs were all a lie. So Topnotch is correct the 14' MY should be the 50th.

04MY--40th ann.
09MY--45th ann.
14MY--50th ann.

Unless Ford changed something in the last minute then there's no reason to doubt....

Overboost

Ok, let's wait and see. When the 2013MY gets a slight refresh, they won't run that for only one year and come out with a whole new design. The new car WILL be a 2015MY. I'm sure we'll see it in April 2014.

Twin Turbo

I remember seeing a few posts on this way back when the '10 was first launched and the rear-end was getting such poor reviews. How slight is slight? Metalwork changes? Obviously we've seen facia changes already with the CS/GT and the 2011 cars (most notable the new rear facias). So, surely, anything else would require a metalwork tweak?

Time for a new 2013MY Photoshop thread then

If those changes do occur, then I'd expect them to last more than a single model year, too........

Good 'ol Ford. Keep us speculating 'til the cows come home

Overboost

I've just heard the possibility of tweaks from a little birdie . I think if we see the 2013MY come out with them, you're looking at a clean sheet Mustang for the 2015MY, not 2014MY like everyone seems to think.

Twin Turbo

Guess it'd be good for Ford to bring out the DI Coyote at the same time as a "gentle" refresh, rather than with the all new car.....y'know, less risky with less changes.....?

Keep pressin' that little birdie

Overboost

I doubt we'll see DI yet. If the Camaro SS gets a hp bump, then it might push Ford to make a move, but as it stands, they're doing fine right now with the motor the way it is.

I think we'll see some new wheels, colors, and maybe minor front/rear tweaks, but nothing crazy.

Twin Turbo

Cheers matey. This is just like the pre-2010 days. Love it

Itravelalot

These do show a very clear pattern that, if continued, would certainly mean that the 2014 model year will be the 50th ann. edition. When looking at the years though, the last big redesigns came in 05 and 10. in the 41st and 46th model years.

Also, we know that a big redisign is coming soon. Either way 2014 vs 2015, neither one leave enough time for a major design change to be all that profitable. Cosidering how much debt Ford has, I do not think it would be wise to put all that much work into the 2013 MY for only 1 or 2 years worth of sales. Once leaks really do start coming out, you would have to see at least a fair amount of people waiting for the redesign if it looks to be a good one. That will further cut into sales and give even more reasons to make any changes to 2013 either relatively minor or ones that can be made without too much development costs

Overboost

So if Ford shows the 2015 model on the 50th anniversary (4/17/2014), what's the big deal?

I highly doubt Ford is going to make tweaks that require tooling changes for MY13 and have it get essentially thrown away for MY14.

If you also look back to previous anniversary models, they were released in the calendar year that coincided with the original unveiling. Going back to my original point, Ford has moved model year designation nearly a full year ahead of calendar year, so who cares if it's a MY15 released in '14?

Just be open to the possibility that it might be MY15, all I'm sayin'.

krnpimpsta

To me, this supports the following trend very well (agreeing with above post):I think it's reasonable to expect the 50th anniversery being very similar to our current mustang as a 2014MY (released in 2013) and the new design to come out a year later in 2014 as a 2015MY...

Automagically

This makes sense, I'm ok with this.

Adam

50th anniversary is huge. Way more of an opportunity for Ford than the 40th and 45th milestones. IMO, S197 styling will be too stale to consumers to use it as the 50th anniversary platform. Plus sales will be abysmal because of the long anticipated redesign that would come out the following year. That would be a complete waste of such an important milestone in Mustang heritage. They have done it in the past but the Ford of today is way different than the Ford from several years ago. If Ford releases the redesigned Mustang in 2013 (2014 MY) they can market the hell out of it being 50th anniversary, new features, yada yada, and make a killing. Sure they can release a 2014 S197 and call it 50th anniversary but how many people would be excited about it...?

06GT

Actually the 50th anniversary could be used as a sales tactic to prevent stagnation or drop-off in a lame-duck model year.

The redesigned car won't need the additional boost of the "50th" to get sales.

Itravelalot

The "lame duck" year might not need a boost in sales if it is looked at as being the last year for relatively low priced v8s. The 2015-2016 Cafe standards are pretty strict, and considering the best selling car/truck in the US is the F-series, Mustangs might not be the priority when it comes to keeping the big hungry engines. If Ford chooses to fully comply with the Cafe standards, either they will need to pull a rabbit out of their hat or the v8s, as efficient as they are, will need to be thinned out across the sports cars and light trucks they are currently in now. In that case, the 50th model year might be needed to boost the sales and get drivers used to the new smaller, lighter, and more efficient Mustang, while the lame duck year prices go up due to demand for what cannot be offered anymore. If you do not think this is realistic, then consider how hard it is to reach the 2016 my standards under current technology. Even with direct injection and a 200-400 pound lighter car, the coyote still would not have an average fuel economy anywhere near good enough to place in a large number of f-150 and mustangs unless the fiesta and focus are doing an amazing amount better than what they are now. I do not think we need to make the highway mpg get to the target, but rather the combined average.

bob

thats how CAFE works, its a combined average and I think you can sell credits as well. As long as Ford can manage a decent CAFE rating, they could stuff 900 cubic inch supercharged V16s in the base car for all the feds care.

Mustangs are niche cars and the V8 cars are even moreso and thier effect on Ford's overall CAFE rating is pretty slim. The F-trucks on the otherhand are a big chunk and effect it to a greater degree and with CAFE tightening the rules on trucks in general its probably forced Ford into offering the EB6 in an effort to shore up its CAFE rating to some extent.

krnpimpsta

I agree w/ above.. lame duck year needs the sales boost from "50th anniversery."

Also, I don't think CAFE will cause a increase in price for the Mustang or require ANY changes from the Mustang. The Mustang doesn't have to be a gas sipper:
In 2010, Ford sold 441,925 vehicles. (Source: http://www.automoblog.net/2011/01/05...d-in-us-sales/)
In 2010, Ford sold 73,716 mustangs. (Source: http://mustangs.about.com/od/2010/a/...tang-Sales.htm)

Does anyone know what percentage of Mustangs are GT's (not V6)? I remember reading 25% a while back, but not sure if that's still true for today's models.

If only 25% of mustangs are V8's, then that means only 18,429 of Ford's vehicle sales in 2010 are V8 mustangs. That is 4.2%. Not a whole lot.. The V8 mustang is a niche car and does not really affect Ford's CAFE average.