December 2015 Mustang Sales
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Rental Fleet Cars
I worked for a Ford/Chrysler dealership for 15+ years. During that time we sold thousands of rental cars purchased from the factory auctions. These cars typically were a year old with 15k miles or less. We didn't have any more or less service problems with those cars than anything else, including new cars. These cars aren't for everyone, but they're a cheap alternative to buy a year old car with a warranty over new. Scott
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I worked for a Ford/Chrysler dealership for 15+ years. During that time we sold thousands of rental cars purchased from the factory auctions. These cars typically were a year old with 15k miles or less. We didn't have any more or less service problems with those cars than anything else, including new cars. These cars aren't for everyone, but they're a cheap alternative to buy a year old car with a warranty over new. Scott ![Icon Mrgreen](https://themustangsource.com/forums/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif)
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I imagine if I drove it today... Well, you know what they say, never meet your heroes...
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I replaced it with the first of many Ford Explorers that I have owned, and one of my favorites. It was a 1998 XLT loaded with the 5.0 V8 and AWD. I loved that thing, but the whole Firestone tire mess made me sell it. The newer Explorers are nicer vehicles, but I never loved them the way I loved my first one.
I imagine if I drove it today... Well, you know what they say, never meet your heroes...
. Some times memories are better left that way...
I imagine if I drove it today... Well, you know what they say, never meet your heroes...
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Why not just replace the tires?
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And now my anecdote that supports rentals cars can be just fine:
My first Mustang was a 99 v6 'vert I bought in 2004. It started life as a rental, and then it had been purchased and owned by someone else for 3 more years.
I also bought a brand new 2002 Toyota Matrix as a family vehicle.
Guess which one was sold in 2009 when it started having transmission problems? It was the "reliable" Toyota.
The only things the Mustang needed beyond brakes/oil/etc. during the 5 years I had it was the handbrake wire disconnected, a new top (which had lasted for 9 years in sun, sleet, and snow), and new 35th anniversary badges after some teens in a parking lot ripped them off (may they be consigned to the hellfire for all eternity).
My first Mustang was a 99 v6 'vert I bought in 2004. It started life as a rental, and then it had been purchased and owned by someone else for 3 more years.
I also bought a brand new 2002 Toyota Matrix as a family vehicle.
Guess which one was sold in 2009 when it started having transmission problems? It was the "reliable" Toyota.
The only things the Mustang needed beyond brakes/oil/etc. during the 5 years I had it was the handbrake wire disconnected, a new top (which had lasted for 9 years in sun, sleet, and snow), and new 35th anniversary badges after some teens in a parking lot ripped them off (may they be consigned to the hellfire for all eternity).
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I did the week I bought it, I could tell the Firestones were crap before the recall, I put michelin M/S tires on it and that really improved the ride.
That being said, I was never convinced it was all Firestones fault, those same tires were on other vehicles without a problem.
The rear suspension in the Exporer from that era sucked, and when combined with the updated front suspension, it caused a problem that I don't think was fixable. The 90-94 Explorers with the same tires didn't have a problem, but they had a completely different front end.
The recall, I believe, was done to avoid having to recall all the Explorers outright which probably would have bankrupted Ford.
My next Explorer was a 2002, it was much improved over the prior model in most ways and was much more stable, but it was boring with a V6.
That being said, I was never convinced it was all Firestones fault, those same tires were on other vehicles without a problem.
The rear suspension in the Exporer from that era sucked, and when combined with the updated front suspension, it caused a problem that I don't think was fixable. The 90-94 Explorers with the same tires didn't have a problem, but they had a completely different front end.
The recall, I believe, was done to avoid having to recall all the Explorers outright which probably would have bankrupted Ford.
My next Explorer was a 2002, it was much improved over the prior model in most ways and was much more stable, but it was boring with a V6.
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I am on my 7th Mustang; 1997, 2000, 2004 (both my wife & I), 2012 (again my wife & I) and this time a new 2015 GT Premium. I ordered it the way I desired; nt off the lot, but exactly as I wanted. And wow, it is even better than the "in folks" rave about. It is light years better and improved over my 2012 GT Premium. My only complaint is gas mileage suffers significantly with the 435+ horsepower, but who buys a high performance car for mileage?
It is time for the "old Mustang" to go away quietly, to be held in reverence, and for us to embrace the new, bold, and I think, gorgeous.
It is time for the "old Mustang" to go away quietly, to be held in reverence, and for us to embrace the new, bold, and I think, gorgeous.
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I am on my 7th Mustang; 1997, 2000, 2004 (both my wife & I), 2012 (again my wife & I) and this time a new 2015 GT Premium. I ordered it the way I desired; nt off the lot, but exactly as I wanted. And wow, it is even better than the "in folks" rave about. It is light years better and improved over my 2012 GT Premium. My only complaint is gas mileage suffers significantly with the 435+ horsepower, but who buys a high performance car for mileage?
It is time for the "old Mustang" to go away quietly, to be held in reverence, and for us to embrace the new, bold, and I think, gorgeous.
It is time for the "old Mustang" to go away quietly, to be held in reverence, and for us to embrace the new, bold, and I think, gorgeous.
Its all sports car and lost the muscle car look and a rear end that only a mother could love.
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Kona ! What is it about the rear end you dislike so much ? As I'd really like to know because I personally feel the rear is the best feature on the 2015..
What I like most about the rear, is Ford brought back the full fastback profile from the 65-68 models, but rather than attempt to re-copy them, they were able to do so in a contemporary/modern design for the 21st century..
IMO the rear profile definitely reminds me of the 1st generation 65-68 fastback models every time I look at them
What I like most about the rear, is Ford brought back the full fastback profile from the 65-68 models, but rather than attempt to re-copy them, they were able to do so in a contemporary/modern design for the 21st century..
IMO the rear profile definitely reminds me of the 1st generation 65-68 fastback models every time I look at them
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Kona ! What is it about the rear end you dislike so much ? As I'd really like to know because I personally feel the rear is the best feature on the 2015..
What I like most about the rear, is Ford brought back the full fastback profile from the 65-68 models, but rather than attempt to re-copy them, they were able to do so in a contemporary/modern design for the 21st century..
IMO the rear profile definitely reminds me of the 1st generation 65-68 fastback models every time I look at them![Smile](https://themustangsource.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
What I like most about the rear, is Ford brought back the full fastback profile from the 65-68 models, but rather than attempt to re-copy them, they were able to do so in a contemporary/modern design for the 21st century..
IMO the rear profile definitely reminds me of the 1st generation 65-68 fastback models every time I look at them
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I understand your feeling. I never fell in love with he 11-14 front or rear clips. The 13/14 got closer in the rear, but the 10-12's were bulbous and fat looking to me, even with the fake slimming Ford tried with the lower black valence. That doesn't mean it was horrible, but rather to my eye it didn't mesh well at all. That's one reason I never traded my '09 GT for one.
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I understand your feeling. I never fell in love with he 11-14 front or rear clips. The 13/14 got closer in the rear, but the 10-12's were bulbous and fat looking to me, even with the fake slimming Ford tried with the lower black valence. That doesn't mean it was horrible, but rather to my eye it didn't mesh well at all. That's one reason I never traded my '09 GT for one.
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Absolutely sir. Take a look at the rear glass down to the trunk area. Ugly! Take a look at the taillights itself. Notice how there not pleasing to the eye and ugly. Take a look below the taillights at the bottom portion of the rear, just ugly. More specifically, take a look at the entire rear end, trunk area, rear glass, all ugly.
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Guess what I'm trying to say, is give it more of a 67-70 slope/trailing edge look..
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Maybe he doesn't care for the rear slope because I'm in agreement with the rear as well! I do really like the rest of it though. Attachment 167689 Attachment 167690 Attachment 167691 Attachment 167692
I DO want the GT350R!!! :-)
I DO want the GT350R!!! :-)