This is a very entertaining thread. Frankly I absolutely love this new design,its an easy cop out to say its a 4 door Fusion. The original Mustang was by no means a muscle car, it was in 1964 a breath of fresh air and gobs of people young and old bought this car.

The 2015 is so sexy, the retro did its thing, I love our 2006 and 2011, will not get rid of them, but I cant wait to see this in different packages. Some comments just crack me about 'Purists" and "i'm going to buy a Corvette". Go! Please for the love of God go now and dont look back! The same "Mustang People" in certain forums and clubs I belong to, hate the II's and Foxes and everything that doesnt resemble any first gen Mustangs. I welcome the next generation and its a Mustang, Oh yes a very very sexy one in deed.

From everything I have read and watched it might be the most advanced, best performing overall "sports Car" that we have seen built in the USA under $35K. '

There is and always has been a Mustang for everyone, if you remember that far back.

Oh yeah the United States just sold its last remaining GM stock at a taxpayer loss $10.5 Billion.... I think I will pass on anything that represents...

 

After reading your post over again, I now believe that I understood what you meant regarding the RWD Falcon.. In other words, when you referred to the Falcon as from a global perspective ? it was meant as geographical and not platform related.. Anyway, hope that's accurate

 

Yes, we just got our points crossed. A frequent occurrence on the internet!

 

There was a lot of Internet speculation on this relationship, but articles I've read with quotes from the Mustang Chief Engineer do not suggest that. He talks about starting the S197's chassis then revising it to the point every part of it was different. This was done to get the look the designers were going after, as well as accomodate the changes for the rear suspensions redesign.

 

[QUOTE=Samolet;6730649]Hermann ! Shawn is absolutely accurate as both the current Fusion along with the 2015 Mustang did indeed get it's inspiration for it's design from the Ford Evos concept..

Therefore I do agree with his post, as the Evos concept did come first and even though I do like the 2015 Mustang.. It's just not enough to give up my 2006 GT..

As I am from the old school and much prefer the retro styling of the current 05-14 Mustang better which was my purpose for purchasing my current 06 because it instantly reminded me of the classic 65-70 Mustangs I always admired and wanted from my youth..

With that said, I have the Mustang in which I've always wanted and have been completely satisfied ever since

 

So in other words ! The 2015 is in part indeed an evolution of the current S-197 ? At least chassis wise anyhow

 

That's for sure and I couldn't agree more

 

What can I say Dave ! As we definitely aim to please

 

While many things can be read into the statement, it sounds like they had it as the starting point and then did revisions to the point where there are no one-for-one carryover parts. They talked about the engineering work to get the rigidity they wanted in the subframe area to meet design goals and crash standards, the IRS mounting, all while keeping the same wheelbase.

There is talk about it in .

 

Sort of sounds a bit like the evolution of the DEW chassis into what eventually became the S197 Mustang, starting off as basically a DEW chassis made with cheaper (steel rather than AL) bits but by the end of the day sharing little but some mundane floor stampings and whatnot -- basically a new chassis. Seems much the same has happened with the S550, starting off as an evolution of the S197 but ending up with only some rudimentary parts shared -- again essentially a new chassis for all intents and purposes.

As for the Fusion <--> Mustang styling argument, I see it as much as the Fusion looking like a Mustang, or Aston Martin for that matter, rather than the other way around. I might have done a few things differently with the Stang's nose and other elements for a bit more distinction, but given that the Fusion is a darned good looking car, I would call any resemblance a compliment to both cars.

 

[QUOTE=m05fastbackGT;6730905]I totally understand your stance... a very good stance at that. I think for me, the new Mustang is still offering some other characteristics of what I believe a Mustang brings to the table: V8 power, decent handling/braking, lower mass than immediate competitors, and features at a reasonable price. I can not name too many vehicles today that can give you all that. Now, this 6th generation Mustang should be equal or, most likely, greater than those present characteristics. As much as I enjoy my '11 GT, I can not deny how much they pushed this Mustang up-to-date and towards the future... and I'm not just talking about the suspension. The new technology being offered this time around is a huge surprise! Some may think that a Mustang doesn't need all those bells-n-whistles, but I respectfully disagree.

In the looks department, I think they did a fine job... both inside and out, as well. No complaints there.

If there is anything I can have a gripe about is no Direct Injection implementation in the Coyote motor. I do not know all of the possible advantages, but that probably would have made things a bit more interesting in the power plant department... not enough for me to wait and see if it ever materializes, though!

 

All this carping about how the Mustang looks just like the Fusion makes me want to go out and buy a new Fusion AND a new Mustang when they come out. If only I made three times as much money . . .

 

I think obviously each generation has its detractors. As a young enthusiast growing up in the Fox era, I love the Fox (specifically when done right: specific examples of gems -from LX hatch and notch to GT to Cobra to the Saleens can be seen at car shows that still blow me away; but many of them are ugly turds that are rusting away, banged up, and or just ugly from the word go). But I get how some hate the Fox look. The Mustang II I pretty much hate no matter what is done with it, but I can appreciate the history. I also am cool on the SN95, especially the 94-98 which was too rounded and soft looking to me, coupled with a step back performance wise while the Camaro was upping its ante big time. Those were embarrassing times as a Mustang fan! Ironically I definitely see some SN95 in this new 2015 Mustang, but with sharp edges blended in, its almost like a perfect blend of the rounded elements of the 94-98 SN95 with the edginess of 99-04 SN95!!!!! Amazing!

 

Tony ! Thank you very much for posting the video clip, and after having the chance to listen to it.. I am now convinced the chassis for the new S550 did indeed start out and evolve from the D2C platform found on the current S-197 model very much in the same way the DEW98 platform evolved into D2C..

But as you pointed out just as the video did.. There were no carry over components used from the current D2C platform at all..

Therefore not only does this new Mustang have it's own RWD platform, but also this time around, there are no carry over components used from the soon to be previous platform whatsoever..


So it would also appear the new Mustang does not share anything in common with either the current Fusion nor Taurus and is also not on Ford's global platform as this new S550 is the Mustang's very own platform without a doubt..

 

[QUOTE=J Tennu;6731175]I totally agree and understand exactly where your coming from Jay

 

This is exactly what I've been pointing out all along and so pleased that somebody finally gets it spot on..

As the current S-197 basically did become a new chassis which became the Mustang's own RWD D2C platform

 

When you say "Ford's global platform", are you referring to one specifically for a certain size vehicle? I don't think Ford has an extensible, single car platform like Volkswagen (MQB). There are several platforms - in fact, I think I remember reading somewhere that the goal was to go down to 9 separate platforms that could be used for various vehicles of various sizes.

 

When I was referring to Ford's global platform Tony ! I was referring to the current Fusion, Taurus, Fiesta and Focus, until realizing they are all on FWD platforms..

So what I posted back then was totally inaccurate

 

Ah, got it...this Wikipedia article lists http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ford_platforms. I personally was familiar with ones on which the Fiesta and Focus are produced.

 

I misinterpreted the Fiesta, Focus, Fusion and Taurus as all being on Ford's global platform and they obviously are not..

And thanks to the video you posted, the new Mustang has nothing to do with either the current Taurus or Fusion either..