all was fine. no symptoms/no warning. Drove/Shifted smoother than my 99 GT ever has. I was just cruising along in 6th on the interstate about 95 miles into a trip and then it just started vibrating (felt like I had a flat tire). I pulled over as quickly as I could get from the left lane to the shoulder and that was it. Called roadside for the flatbed.

 

I'm starting to think the only way to prove the severity of the MT82 problems is to start tracking them. If/when the MT82 thread gets re-opened, it might be a good time to start a spreadsheet of issues and owners, to keep track of just how many are really reporting issues.

 

Thanks for the update. This is the type of thing that bothers me,
unpredictiable. The last thing you need in South Dakota, due to extreme distances from cities, is a vehicle failure, especially in the winter.

I did have the TSB fluid change done at the beginning of October, and the transmission is shifting better then ever, especially at cold start. Guess it is wait and see...

 

And you would collect this information where? And statistically it would mean what? How would you propose capturing the "data"? Do you really think you'll get objective information this way?

Would your TMS thread become the "official" source of MT82 information as apposed to let's say the "official" AFM MT82 thread who has the same 5 poeple posting back and forth? or jalopkik with an article from back in August?

If you even had 124 people submit for your spreadsheet... would you say only 124 people have a problem with their transmissions? How would you extrapolate that data into something meaningful that's not just as faulty and fact-adverse than the other thread?

There is a reason the MT82 thread is closed. Just sayin'.

 

FWIW, sometimes my 6th gear does a "clunk" sound when I put it into gear at 1200-1500 when I attempt to really short shift onto the highway. It doesn't inspire me.. in fact, I've learned just to use 5th until I'm past 2000-2500 or so.

Have you heard anything back on the transmission yet as far as warranty?

 

Yeah, and I was the one who closed it. It had been discussed several times whether or not it was worth keeping open when it degenerated to the same dribble as AFM.

I'm saying, to prove to everyone how isolated this problem is, keep a spreadsheet via Google Docs that would show just how many problems persist. I would also like to keep track of work done by the dealer and symptoms and group them accordingly. I think, like you, the issues have been exacerbated by forums like AFM letting people run rampant, and would like to show everyone just how small the problems really are.

I'm not trying to skew this one way or another, just present the facts and nothing more. This issue has gone on too long without someone trying to step in and keep things under control. I realize that limiting it to this forum wouldn't necessarily be indicative of the entire owner base, but it's the best I can do.

 

I think our problem is lack of 100% participation! If we could just force all owners, including the 99% of those with no problems to join!

I went to the dealer in Issaquah, and down in Renton, and neither have even heard of a transmission problem. I wouldn't suggest that that means no one has had an issue, but using the numbers like some of the others would suggest this means 0% failure. These aren't small dealerships either. The next logical question would be "who did I ask at the dealership". I always hear a "friend of a friend of a friend", or it was the North American Director of Ford Transmission Quality and Ratings for The NHSTA; both unlikely sources.

I, like you and many others, would like to have objective numbers and facts. I agree there are people whom have had transmission problems, I just hate the blatant raping and hollowing out of legitimate mathematics and statistics in general. I don't hate MT82 owners whom have a problem, Just don't like that very small group that never apparently went to school, post the same video over and over and recirculate the same August jaloplik story, and actually quote it to make a new story, and that is their only source.

 

This will be resolved for you soon, GrandMasterB. Please continue to work with your CSM and let me know if you need me.

Deysha

 

Last I heard they were still waiting on parts. They were expected in Monday but as of Tuesday had not arrived. Day 10...

 

Thank you Deysha! The rep you put me in contact with has been much more helpful than the folks at the dealership.

 

Give them a chance to work together. I'm glad to hear you're being taken care of though!

Deysha

 

more parts being ordered today. Day 16...

 

Try and look at the positive side of this. You will have a basically hand built transmission when this is done. If Ford had given you a replacement, it may have had the same issues.

I would prefer this to a replacement, based on previous experience. Stop by and talk to the technician working on it and tell him how much better you think it will be because he is doing a rebuild. I did that with a Jeep GC, and the tech couldn't believe it. People just don't say "thank you" anymore. Needless to say the car was perfect when it came back.

 

I created this thread and forgot to come back and post the resolution.

Ford tech concurred on the whining, got authorized from Ford Hot Line to pull and scatter the transmission for inspection. Their inspection revealed a bad Input Shaft Bearing, which resulted in metal shavings throughout the transmission. Ford examined the findings and authorized a complete transmission replacement.

I am very happy Ford took care of this, but if I'm going to need a new manual transmission every 20-25k miles, that spends 85% of its miles/time on the highway to and from work, then I'm seriously thinking of trading her off for a 2013 GT Auto in about 6-months or so.

 

wow, dont recall ever hearing much about bearing failures in transmissions-especially one that new... usually a synchro or gear damage from bad shifting/abuse...

wonder if ford just crushes all that stuff or if they send it back to china with a bill for their service cost? I bet THAT would sure improve quality from over there

wether built here or there, these days bearings are coming out of asia more and more, at work we get cheep bearings sometimes too, boxes often have no name or 'made in' documentaton- but in or out of the box, you can see the difference. bearings made here/europe(except poland)/japan are always better packaged, run smoother/quieter than the cheep ones- eventually the only option might be china at the rate things are going. funny china hasnt gone after big dollar bearings yet- we have some large lathes that use a SKF only bearing out of japan- the one upper spindle bearing is $28k...guess not much risk of china making them though, as it probably wouldnt work at all anyways

well glad Ford took care of it, hope to hear the 6 speeds average better than your first one did...I'd been kicking around the idea of swapping a 6 speed into my 06, but gotta say after reading about a couple shifters falling apart inside/noises/now bearing failures, think i'll put that idea on hold for a while.

 

I hear you on the bearings, but this is definitely not the beginning of outsourced overseas bearings. On another note, I think my front wheel bearings are going bad too.

 

my passenger front has a hum starting too- not loose, but can hear it wont be long. the new hubs dont even have hardened races inside, they are ball bearing instead of taper roller, and the outer 'races' are just machined grooves in the hub- definitely a cheapass design.
heres a hub some guy tore apart for a S197, with pictures:
http://www.fordmuscleforums.com/must...-analysis.html

 

****, i just bought a 2011 GT 2 weeks ago and figured the trans whine was normal

when i bought my tacoma with 65k miles it had a whine in the first 3 gears, here we are at just over 100k miles and its still the exact same whine, no louder.


so i didnt think much about the whine in the gt, but i feel it has already gotten louder and i've only put 400 miles on it. it only has 950 miles and it whines... not off to a good start lol

 

I have a 2012 GT with the MT-82, it whines at low speeds in 2nd, like 8-12 mph or so, and the shifts are kinda crunchy, sometimes I'm blocked out of 2nd or 1st when I try to put it in gear or shift.

I only have like 700 miles on it, is mine gonna be one of the bad ones too? *scared*

 

Just wanted to say that my new GT (1000 miles in one month) is experiencing a slight gear whine.

After popping out of 4th one night, I changed the tranny fluid to Redline MTL and also added the Barton shift bracket. The whine started about 2 days ago. I'm going to keep an ear on it to see if it gets louder after a few thousand miles.

There is also now a crunch going into 3rd. Also, everytime when I depress the clutch pedal to shift, the clunk sound is now much louder than it was on my V6. Just curious if that's all "normal" since it was not that loud on my previous MT82 V6.