this is the point exactly. no one is stating that they are getting increased power from the oil change, but it is a smart move for engine effieciency. sorta the same way replacing the piece of ish air filters they provide us with also.

 

5w30 Royal Purple for me next oil change. It stays over 100 degrees, everyday here during the summer.
I changed out to Red Line MTL for the tranny and it is silky smooth now. I want to run full synthetic on everything just for the added protection from the summer heat here.

 

Where do you live?

 

South East New Mexico. We had 110 consecutive days this summer where the temp was over 100.

 

Bout the same here... It sucked... Thought you might live in tx.

 

Big guy, have you looked into CAFE laws? By going to a lower viscosity oil, the engine runs a little more freely then if it had a heavier weight oil. Same concept as A/C delete kits and P/S deletes, etc. Less work for the motor (obviously the oil thing is A TON less of a difference). But, by Ford squeaking out 1/10 of a MPG they can save millions and millions of dollars by keeping up with the standards. Modern day corporate America is all about profit, no matter what argument you want to make about it.

 

Sorry I didn't clarify last night. I was trying to get at that the gains would be miniscule but to me it's something. I look at using a better oil as giving me better lubrication and keeping my engine cool. As stated before, it helps get power to the wheels more effectively and might add a miniscule amount of performance. I think we're all bascially on the same page, just expressing our views differently. We've done a good job at NOT doing this , which I'm proud of. I personally just prefer going to a better, higher quality oil because I want the most out of my engine.

Thanks for all the good info guys.

 

Well its easy to avoid a when no one starts name calling and making it personal. Glad were on the same page

 

I'm looking at going with MTL and probably Amsoil 5w-30 after I get the car back from the dealer and at my next oil change.

 

You'll be so happy you did, tranny is silky smooth since swapping to MTL.

 

Redline MTL is my choice as well.

 

It's good to hear more and more positive feedback about the fluid swap. I don't think I've heard a bad story yet.

 

I used Amsoil MTG since Redline themselves told me not to use MTL, I also loved the difference it made.

 

Redline told you not to use their own product?

 

Correct. Redline said they do not recommend the use of MTL in the MT82 transmission.

 

There was a post about this. Red Line said they NO LONGER can recommend MTL for the MT82 because Ford changed their specs recently to that dual clutch crap. Red Line stated they do not have anything in their line up that is speced to the the dual clutch junk ford is now putting in the MT82 now.

When ford was putting the XT-M5-QS fluid in the 2011's and some 2012's; Red Line stated the MTL was a popular replacement for this fluid.

Now ford is using the XT-11-QDC which is the dual clutch fluid.

 

I'm pretty sure it's just legal stuff, they didn't want Ford to sew them for stating that their oil met Ford specs when in fact it did not. It may not meet all Ford specs, it surpasses them. Why have so many owners of MT82 reported BETTER shifting after swapping to MTL ! Because it's inferior tranny oil !!!!! Some have made the change thousands of miles ago, and have not reported issues about the hard,notchy shifting coming back or becoming worst. It doesn't solve all MT82 tranny issues some are experiencing, but it sure helps. Well it did in my case. It's just this dual clutch fluid swap that Ford did that changed everything. Just my .02

 

I never said it didn't work well, everyone who uses it says its awesome. I also agree that MTL is proabably better than whatever Ford puts in there. I just said I didn't use it because Redline told me not to. Now Amsoil on the other hand recommends MTG for use in the MT82, so I went with that. And I have similarly great things to say about it, just like people who have swapped to MTL.

 

I just went to the Amsoil Home Page and found this information for the MT-82 transmission when referring to a replacement for the Ford fluid:
Manual transmission fluid formulated to meet
spec. WSD-M2C200-C.

I then checked my owners manual and found this:
Recommended Transmission fluid for the MT-82: Motorcraft Dual Clutch Transmission Fluid. XT-11-QDC/ WSD-M2C200-C.

Since the specs for the Amsoil and XT-11-QDC are the same (WSD-M2C200-C ), does this mean the Amsoil is a dual clutch fluid similar to what Ford is using under the replacement TSB? I am curious as I was going to have Ford do the TSB for the winter, and if both fluids are the same then why buy the Amsoil?

 

I think my thread got hijacked... Good conversation about lubrications though.