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Old Jun 4, 2014 | 06:51 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueEyedSnake
Here is a DTC code of the IPC. Anyone know what it is?
Try clearing that out and seeing if it comes back.

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Old Jun 4, 2014 | 07:58 AM
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Schematic for the Analog input for the BB is up. This is untested! But it should get us started.

This will allow for 0-12v input into the BB 3.3 analog input. Of course a scalar will have to be written in code for this.

I will order the parts and test as soon as they get in. Feel free to reuse this design in your own projects.
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Old Jun 4, 2014 | 05:05 PM
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EPAS harness arrived today. I will probably test wire EPAS on the weekend to see if there are any challenges before I put it in.

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Old Jun 4, 2014 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by zeroaviation
Try clearing that out and seeing if it comes back.

-Matt
I cleared out the code and it's gone.
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Old Jun 5, 2014 | 01:34 AM
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I am selling my Black Box, modified directional cruise control switch and wires with pins needed to make the directions steering wheel switch work. I wrote up a detailed install that you can follow to make the gauges work within the new LCD gauge cluster. If you need help with the install I can walk you through it on the phone or install everything for you for a small fee if you are in California. $350 for everything listed or $400 if you bring your car and I install it for you. I'll reprogram your PATS on your vehicle too for no cost ($90 value).

All you need is to buy a Premium, Boss, or Shelby LCD cluster.

FYI, if you do not install the 2013 ABS module, track apps will not work. The ABS module cost $194 plus shipping from Tousley Ford.

PM with any questions, I take PayPal and shipping will be via flat rate USPS ($15).

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Old Jun 5, 2014 | 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueEyedSnake
I am selling my Black Box, modified directional cruise control switch and wires with pins needed to make the directions steering wheel switch work. I wrote up a detailed install that you can follow to make the gauges work within the new LCD gauge cluster. If you need help with the install I can walk you through it on the phone or install everything for you for a small fee if you are in California. $350 for everything listed or $400 if you bring your car and I install it for you. I'll reprogram your PATS on your vehicle too for no cost ($90 value).

All you need is to buy a Premium, Boss, or Shelby LCD cluster.

FYI, if you do not install the 2013 ABS module, track apps will not work. The ABS module cost $94 plus shipping from Tousley Ford.

PM with any questions.
Actually the ABS module is still $184....the $94 is a mistake and a 2012...

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Old Jun 5, 2014 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by LEXiiON
Actually the ABS module is still $184....the $94 is a mistake and a 2012...

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Did they honor the $94 for the last one you sent me?
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Old Jun 5, 2014 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueEyedSnake
Did they honor the $94 for the last one you sent me?
Nope
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Old Jun 6, 2014 | 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueEyedSnake
I am selling my Black Box, modified directional cruise control switch and wires with pins needed to make the directions steering wheel switch work. I wrote up a detailed install that you can follow to make the gauges work within the new LCD gauge cluster. If you need help with the install I can walk you through it on the phone or install everything for you for a small fee if you are in California. $350 for everything listed or $400 if you bring your car and I install it for you. I'll reprogram your PATS on your vehicle too for no cost ($90 value). All you need is to buy a Premium, Boss, or Shelby LCD cluster. FYI, if you do not install the 2013 ABS module, track apps will not work. The ABS module cost $194 plus shipping from Tousley Ford. PM with any questions, I take PayPal and shipping will be via flat rate USPS ($15).
This is a good deal folks!!!
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Old Jun 6, 2014 | 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by zeroaviation
This is a good deal folks!!!
Sold....
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Old Jun 7, 2014 | 06:23 PM
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So where has everyone been getting the clusters lately? Been doing a search and have not found any online yet. Does anyone have an estimated cost on this whole process? I have an auto kona blue 2012 I am really wanting to do this on. I have been following this and another post....
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Old Jun 7, 2014 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Kona12GT
So where has everyone been getting the clusters lately? Been doing a search and have not found any online yet. Does anyone have an estimated cost on this whole process? I have an auto kona blue 2012 I am really wanting to do this on. I have been following this and another post....
Depends on whether you want to flash your PCM or not. Let's say you do flash it. VCM II tool from Aliexpress.com is $110. Left steering wheel switch is $25 and the 2013 ABS module is $194. Since your an auto, you will want to buy a used or new 2013 shifter. I have no idea how much this will cost. Jim a few pages back on this post describes how he wired up the new shifter and works perfect. That's $329 without the shifter and new or used LCD cluster.
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Old Jun 7, 2014 | 07:09 PM
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Figure $700 to $1100 depending on how much you pay for cluster and whether you want to flash your PCM or use black box. And you also have shifter to contend with on automatic.
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Old Jun 7, 2014 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Kona12GT
So where has everyone been getting the clusters lately? Been doing a search and have not found any online yet. Does anyone have an estimated cost on this whole process? I have an auto kona blue 2012 I am really wanting to do this on. I have been following this and another post....
You can pm me for more info, but I pretty much covered everything for automatic owners in the other thread. If you really want the select shift (kind of neat) I can help you with that. But if taking out the inner fender and running wires around is an issue for you, go with the black box. Then you don't need to worry about the select shift, reprogramming the PCM or getting a proper tune. It is the cheapest way to go.
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Old Jun 7, 2014 | 09:16 PM
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Thanks for the responses..... I already have the vcm2 and I would prefer to use the black box. I have my car tuned and don't want to mess with that. I don't mind running wires if it is needed but would rather do this the easiest way...lol. So the black box will give me the select shift also?

Still having a hard time finding the clusters. Can we get them new from ford? I think I read somewhere that they won't sell them?
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Old Jun 7, 2014 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Kona12GT
Thanks for the responses..... I already have the vcm2 and I would prefer to use the black box. I have my car tuned and don't want to mess with that. I don't mind running wires if it is needed but would rather do this the easiest way...lol. So the black box will give me the select shift also?

Still having a hard time finding the clusters. Can we get them new from ford? I think I read somewhere that they won't sell them?
You can buy a new cluster from Tousley Ford. Finding a used one is hard. They will charge you a core charge, but I thought they were still taking non premium cluster as cores. I could be wrong.
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Old Jun 7, 2014 | 09:54 PM
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Car-part.com lists quite a few clusters for sale. Even a 2013 gt500 is available. You need to call salvage yard and make sure it has LCD display.
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Old Jun 8, 2014 | 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Kona12GT
Thanks for the responses..... I already have the vcm2 and I would prefer to use the black box. I have my car tuned and don't want to mess with that. I don't mind running wires if it is needed but would rather do this the easiest way...lol. So the black box will give me the select shift also?

Still having a hard time finding the clusters. Can we get them new from ford? I think I read somewhere that they won't sell them?
You will not get select shift using the black box nor track apps. The box will enable the digital guages only.
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Old Jun 8, 2014 | 08:01 AM
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Depressing bit of news.... My VCM just released the magic smoke. I wonder what its gonna cost me to replace... :/
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Old Jun 8, 2014 | 08:25 AM
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You bought your vcm from same seller as rest of us ??? That sucks. I think they have a warranty. Contact seller. I have many hours of use out of mine and still working fine.
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