'13-14 Cluster into '10-12 car (with TrackApps) retrofit
#81
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Headlight wires wont be touched .. just the wires going to the reset/setup/info switches need to be moved to the steering wheel button.
If it all actually works and you want to make it look factory .. you could also order a 2013 Headlight switch without the setup buttons.
If it all actually works and you want to make it look factory .. you could also order a 2013 Headlight switch without the setup buttons.
The part number for the 2013 headlight switch module is 9R3Z 11654 CA, but you may want to double check this.
#84
What kind of build data is stored in the cluster? It seems like there's some concern about this being reset.
I think in 2012+ cars there was also a feature to adjust steering feel. Would swapping the cluster bring this feature to a 2011 car?
I think in 2012+ cars there was also a feature to adjust steering feel. Would swapping the cluster bring this feature to a 2011 car?
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I can tell you that when I put a 2012 Cluster in my 2010 it did not behave 100% properly. Perhaps that was due to my 2010 not having electronic adjustable steering and no MyKEY feature. So the dealer did have to reload my Build Data into the cluster and then everything work fine. Of course .. the MyKey feature and Adjustable Steering feature was no longer available in the settings display.
I doubt putting a 2012 Cluster in a 2011 car would add the feature .. but thats just a guess. You bring up a good point about 2011 not having adjustable steering .. since that may make it harder to get a 2013 cluster to work in a 2011 without reloading the build data.
As far as I know ... there is no difference in features between 2012 and 2013 so I see no reason to load 2012 build data into a 2013 cluster. And the biggest concern is that IF 2012 build data is loaded into the 2013 cluster .. will Track Apps be disabled??
I am concerned that the commands or signals used by the Steering wheel Buttons to control the Track Apps Display may not be recongnized on the 2012 Canbus ... that would really screw things up and make the swap impossible.
Also just talked to the Tuner ... I should have my PATS disabled tune by the end of today ...
#86
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There is one other thing I noticed, and I have to get the diagrams for it:
The steering feel on Shelbys is on a separate button along with damper setting and launch control. These buttons are located where our reset/info/set buttons are now.
It makes me wonder if steering feel setting is not through the cluster now?
The steering feel on Shelbys is on a separate button along with damper setting and launch control. These buttons are located where our reset/info/set buttons are now.
It makes me wonder if steering feel setting is not through the cluster now?
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#87
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Some screens that the cluster has.
Maybe someone with a 2013 could confirm if steering setting is done through the cluster?
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Is the middle button even used? And on GT models. Do those buttons perform the same functions for like my color and things like that? Is it just the Shelby that gas the functions moved from the headlight buttons?
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According to both the Quick Reference Guide and the owners manual ... all the functions currently controlled via the setup buttons on the 2012 are controlled from Track Apps Display on the 2013
Adjustable Steering Feel:
Choose between standard, sport, and comfort
steering feel option modes. Select the desired
mode from the informaton displays screen using
the 5-way steering wheel controls. Sport steering
feel offers a slight manual rack and resistence feel,
comfort steering feel requires less effort to steer the
vehicle. Standard mode is used for normal driving.
http://www.motorcraftservice.com/pub.../13musom2e.pdf
Adjustable Steering Feel:
Choose between standard, sport, and comfort
steering feel option modes. Select the desired
mode from the informaton displays screen using
the 5-way steering wheel controls. Sport steering
feel offers a slight manual rack and resistence feel,
comfort steering feel requires less effort to steer the
vehicle. Standard mode is used for normal driving.
http://www.motorcraftservice.com/pub.../13musom2e.pdf
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According to both the Quick Reference Guide and the owners manual ... all the functions currently controlled via the setup buttons on the 2012 are controlled from Track Apps Display on the 2013
Adjustable Steering Feel:
Choose between standard, sport, and comfort
steering feel option modes. Select the desired
mode from the informaton displays screen using
the 5-way steering wheel controls. Sport steering
feel offers a slight manual rack and resistence feel,
comfort steering feel requires less effort to steer the
vehicle. Standard mode is used for normal driving.
http://www.motorcraftservice.com/pub.../13musom2e.pdf
Adjustable Steering Feel:
Choose between standard, sport, and comfort
steering feel option modes. Select the desired
mode from the informaton displays screen using
the 5-way steering wheel controls. Sport steering
feel offers a slight manual rack and resistence feel,
comfort steering feel requires less effort to steer the
vehicle. Standard mode is used for normal driving.
http://www.motorcraftservice.com/pub.../13musom2e.pdf
Is the middle button even used? And on GT models. Do those buttons perform the same functions for like my color and things like that? Is it just the Shelby that gas the functions moved from the headlight buttons?
I do not believe non Shelbys can be ordered with these features. This photo shows the damper adjustment.
Last edited by jim010; 3/27/13 at 12:05 PM.
#92
It's *possible* that 2011s might have the ability to adjust the steering but it was left off in production. I thought I remember reading about adjustable steering before the 2011s came out, and it turns out I did! Right here on the forums:
https://themustangsource.com/f726/steering-feel-484216/
I don't know if there's any truth to what was posted in that thread.
https://themustangsource.com/f726/steering-feel-484216/
I don't know if there's any truth to what was posted in that thread.
#93
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Would be interesting to see if steering feel can be 'retrofitted'.
Here's a better pic of the Shelby buttons.
Here's a better pic of the Shelby buttons.
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Ahh ok. The one picture didn't have anything on the middle button. It must not have had the bilsteins
#95
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UPS wouldn't pick it up ... improper documentation. I need 3 copies of a commercial export document ...
dmhines, I think you will beat me on this, as I am not getting my cluster out of the States anytime soon.
I have the wiring for the switches figured out already, so if you need help just let me know.
In the mean time, I'm going to take an asprin and do this ...
dmhines, I think you will beat me on this, as I am not getting my cluster out of the States anytime soon.
I have the wiring for the switches figured out already, so if you need help just let me know.
In the mean time, I'm going to take an asprin and do this ...
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UPS wouldn't pick it up ... improper documentation. I need 3 copies of a commercial export document ...
dmhines, I think you will beat me on this, as I am not getting my cluster out of the States anytime soon.
I have the wiring for the switches figured out already, so if you need help just let me know.
In the mean time, I'm going to take an asprin and do this ...
dmhines, I think you will beat me on this, as I am not getting my cluster out of the States anytime soon.
I have the wiring for the switches figured out already, so if you need help just let me know.
In the mean time, I'm going to take an asprin and do this ...
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I'm in Florida this week so you had a chance to beat me. I'm thinking the seller requied a signature so I may not have mine until next Monday. Appreciate the help on the wiring. Hope we get that far!