Engine Start Button
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I think you misread something. Nobody's doing that. People are making it so it starts with both the key and button only, and won't start with just the key. In other words, you have to use the button to start the car, but in order to use the button the key also has to be in the cylinder. ( I didn't do it this way )
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I think you misread something. Nobody's doing that. People are making it so it starts with both the key and button only, and won't start with just the key. In other words, you have to use the button to start the car, but in order to use the button the key also has to be in the cylinder. ( I didn't do it this way )
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In all cases if it is properly wired, you still have to insert the key in the switch, turn it to unlock the steering column and leave it in the run position. Then you push the start button instead of twisting the key to start the engine. To turn the engine off, you simply turn the key off. The start button only functions to start the engine in the key run position.
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I didn't think there was a way to use the button with no key. The microchip in the key is needed to operate the car. I'd be interested to know if there's a way, but I highly doubted from what I've read...
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If I remember right, in order to get the center trim off, you at least need to remove the upper half of the center console. It's about a 3 minute job if you take your time.
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Two phillips screws under the back of the armrest lid hold the top half of the console to the bottom half. The rest easily snaps out of place. Removing the top half of the console provides clearance for the vertical trim on both sides of the center stack to be removed. Just grip each piece and pull it towards the rear of the car and they will snap out of place. The audio/HVAC trim bezel is held in place with I believe six 7mm hex screws. If you have a newer Mustang, you must first release the harness connectors on the back of the HVAC dial switch unit. The entire trim bezel will now come out.
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I just got my start button in grey (I have a GT/CS with the 2 tone leather interior, I think the grey is going to look more stock than red). I'll be taking pics tomorrow and posting. I'm pretty happy with the quality so far!
Button is from ignited...
Button is from ignited...
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So the start button in the Ford GT does not look stock because it is red?
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I tell you what would have been perfect is if we were able to get a black Ford Power start button like some of the Euro Fords have.
The Ford GT start button is the most authentic accessory because it is made for a Ford and marketed as a genuine accessory for a Mustang.
However I just love the Honda start button because of the chrome ring matching the chrome rings on my 08 radio ***** and the way it fits inset of the power point opening instead of over the face of it.
To me all the other aftermarket start buttons look like auto parts store add-ons...
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I didn't like how dim the Honda button lit up, so I took it apart to look inside to see what I could do. I did this awhile ago, but never got around to posting, so here it is.
The botton assembly itself is encased in a chromed cylinder. On the side of this cylinder there is a hole where you can see a black screw inside it (1st photo). This is the lightbulb. A quarter turn will unlock it and the lightbulb will fall out (2nd photo). The bulb itself has a red rubber diffuser covering it. This diffuser is the problem, as it dims the light too much. I took the diffuser off and coated the bulb in red enamel paint (opaque, not translucent). I gave it a few coats, and then put it back together. The result is a much brighter button when illuminated - but still not quite as much as the red as the hazards on the right of the button. Overall, I'm happy, but later on down the road, I may try replacing the bulb with a red LED.
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The botton assembly itself is encased in a chromed cylinder. On the side of this cylinder there is a hole where you can see a black screw inside it (1st photo). This is the lightbulb. A quarter turn will unlock it and the lightbulb will fall out (2nd photo). The bulb itself has a red rubber diffuser covering it. This diffuser is the problem, as it dims the light too much. I took the diffuser off and coated the bulb in red enamel paint (opaque, not translucent). I gave it a few coats, and then put it back together. The result is a much brighter button when illuminated - but still not quite as much as the red as the hazards on the right of the button. Overall, I'm happy, but later on down the road, I may try replacing the bulb with a red LED.
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I should point out that you can change the color of the lighting to whatever you'd like this way - just paint the bulb the color you want. I stuck with the red, but blue would be quite nice too. A really easy mod for the Honda button. Just remember that the rubber diffuser does NOT go back on.
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@all with "oil pressure warning":
your engine start button is wired wrong
the ignition switch has 3 positions:
1 Run/Acc
2 Run/Start
3 Start
if you turn your key in position 2 and want to start the car, all accessory devices (like radio, front lights...) are turned off, to provide maximum power for the starter.
if you just bypass the dark green wire to start the car, the accessory devices are not turned off and the enormous power consumption of the starter is maybe "confusing" some sensors like the oil pressure sensor.
so if you want to start the car by a starter button you have to "emulate" the ignition switch.
its very simple. if you push the button you have to interrupt power to accessory devices and provide power to the starter.
this can be done with relays.
How to:
find connector 250 to the ignition switch on the left side under the steering wheel.
cut the black/pink and the green wire.
wire everything as shown in the circuit diagram.
ps: if you still want to start the car with the key, don't cut the green wire.
your engine start button is wired wrong
the ignition switch has 3 positions:
1 Run/Acc
2 Run/Start
3 Start
if you turn your key in position 2 and want to start the car, all accessory devices (like radio, front lights...) are turned off, to provide maximum power for the starter.
if you just bypass the dark green wire to start the car, the accessory devices are not turned off and the enormous power consumption of the starter is maybe "confusing" some sensors like the oil pressure sensor.
so if you want to start the car by a starter button you have to "emulate" the ignition switch.
its very simple. if you push the button you have to interrupt power to accessory devices and provide power to the starter.
this can be done with relays.
How to:
find connector 250 to the ignition switch on the left side under the steering wheel.
cut the black/pink and the green wire.
wire everything as shown in the circuit diagram.
ps: if you still want to start the car with the key, don't cut the green wire.
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S2000 Start Button with Fordracingparts Instruction
Hi to all,
have someone used the instruction from www.fordracingparts.com to install the Startbutton from the S2000 into the 2005 GT?
Seems that there are only 2 wires to connect (Step24+25)
The idea is to use the S2000 Button to switch a relay (connected to the original cigartette lighter cables) and the relaycontact to the ignition ''spliced'' to the green and white (permit to start also with the key)...
Is it possble to do it in this way ???
THX
have someone used the instruction from www.fordracingparts.com to install the Startbutton from the S2000 into the 2005 GT?
Seems that there are only 2 wires to connect (Step24+25)
The idea is to use the S2000 Button to switch a relay (connected to the original cigartette lighter cables) and the relaycontact to the ignition ''spliced'' to the green and white (permit to start also with the key)...
Is it possble to do it in this way ???
THX