Will the Shelby be available to the Public?
People, it is a car. It is going to get wear. It is going to get road chips, and door dings. You can't stop your house from getting worn down, and you can't stop your car either. You can maintain it (repair it as fast as it degrades).
Some measures make sense. Like don't park next to the junker, don't take it to school or places where lots of young and/or inconsiderate people are. You can try to keep it covered/garaged. But it's still going to happen. And the nicer the car, the more you're trying to draw attention to yourself (artificially announce your status), but that may draw more of the type of attention you don't want as well. It's like a chick wearing a low cut top; deal with guys being unable to make as much eye contact.
Some measures make sense. Like don't park next to the junker, don't take it to school or places where lots of young and/or inconsiderate people are. You can try to keep it covered/garaged. But it's still going to happen. And the nicer the car, the more you're trying to draw attention to yourself (artificially announce your status), but that may draw more of the type of attention you don't want as well. It's like a chick wearing a low cut top; deal with guys being unable to make as much eye contact.
Originally posted by Robert@April 13, 2005, 11:25 PM
Electrify the exterior.
500 volts ought to do it. :shock:
Electrify the exterior.
500 volts ought to do it. :shock:
Originally posted by dke@April 14, 2005, 6:56 AM
It's not the voltage, it's the frequency and amperage that gets you.
It's not the voltage, it's the frequency and amperage that gets you.
You can have 10 million volts but if you have 0 Amps you wont feel a thing. Amps are the rate at which current flows. If you have a lot of charge that is not flowing it wont hurt. Also if you have a small amount of charge and a lot of amps that can hurt... or kill! You can die from "mili amps" (mA)... "Ohms" decides how much current will flow (a.k.a. Amps). Ohms pretty much measures the conductivity of an object. The higher the Ohms the less conductive. (Metal has low Ohms, rubber has high Ohms) anyways....
I think I will only ocassionally drive my car to shcool. The rest of the time I'll drive my old car.
Any new info on the Cobra?
I think I will only ocassionally drive my car to shcool. The rest of the time I'll drive my old car.
Any new info on the Cobra?
Originally posted by wakerider017@April 14, 2005, 1:15 PM
You can have 10 million volts but if you have 0 Amps you wont feel a thing. Amps are the rate at which current flows. If you have a lot of charge that is not flowing it wont hurt. Also if you have a small amount of charge and a lot of amps that can hurt... or kill! You can die from "mili amps" (mA)... "Ohms" decides how much current will flow (a.k.a. Amps). Ohms pretty much measures the conductivity of an object. The higher the Ohms the less conductive. (Metal has low Ohms, rubber has high Ohms) anyways....
You can have 10 million volts but if you have 0 Amps you wont feel a thing. Amps are the rate at which current flows. If you have a lot of charge that is not flowing it wont hurt. Also if you have a small amount of charge and a lot of amps that can hurt... or kill! You can die from "mili amps" (mA)... "Ohms" decides how much current will flow (a.k.a. Amps). Ohms pretty much measures the conductivity of an object. The higher the Ohms the less conductive. (Metal has low Ohms, rubber has high Ohms) anyways....
NERDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Buy what you will, dude. I would hate to see you buy it, then have something major happen, and you not be able to compensate because you aren't making the big bucks yet. My rule is, don't buy above your station.
Buy what you will, dude. I would hate to see you buy it, then have something major happen, and you not be able to compensate because you aren't making the big bucks yet. My rule is, don't buy above your station.
Originally posted by Robert+April 14, 2005, 1:44 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Robert @ April 14, 2005, 1:44 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-wakerider017@April 14, 2005, 1:15 PM
You can have 10 million volts but if you have 0 Amps you wont feel a thing. Amps are the rate at which current flows. If you have a lot of charge that is not flowing it wont hurt. Also if you have a small amount of charge and a lot of amps that can hurt... or kill! You can die from "mili amps" (mA)... "Ohms" decides how much current will flow (a.k.a. Amps). Ohms pretty much measures the conductivity of an object. The higher the Ohms the less conductive. (Metal has low Ohms, rubber has high Ohms) anyways....
You can have 10 million volts but if you have 0 Amps you wont feel a thing. Amps are the rate at which current flows. If you have a lot of charge that is not flowing it wont hurt. Also if you have a small amount of charge and a lot of amps that can hurt... or kill! You can die from "mili amps" (mA)... "Ohms" decides how much current will flow (a.k.a. Amps). Ohms pretty much measures the conductivity of an object. The higher the Ohms the less conductive. (Metal has low Ohms, rubber has high Ohms) anyways....

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LOL. I remember that from physics class.
Hopefully someone can answer this question.
Id probably pay around 12k in cash and trade my 2005 GT in on a GT500 and finance the rest when they arrive.
I have no problem waiting a year for the high prices, bugs in the car to go away if need be, my question is however, is the car a limited production? What i mean by that is, will they only be offered in '07 or '07-'08 or will they be a yearly thing until demand flags enough that it is not profitable to sell them (that will probably never happen)?
Im no expert but I just dont see this being a car they will offer year after year when they have established the cobra as the "high perfomance" yearly mustang offering.
Anyways anyone with some insight into this Id love to hear your reply so Ill know if I need to start hounding dealers about lists and whatnot.
Id probably pay around 12k in cash and trade my 2005 GT in on a GT500 and finance the rest when they arrive.
I have no problem waiting a year for the high prices, bugs in the car to go away if need be, my question is however, is the car a limited production? What i mean by that is, will they only be offered in '07 or '07-'08 or will they be a yearly thing until demand flags enough that it is not profitable to sell them (that will probably never happen)?
Im no expert but I just dont see this being a car they will offer year after year when they have established the cobra as the "high perfomance" yearly mustang offering.
Anyways anyone with some insight into this Id love to hear your reply so Ill know if I need to start hounding dealers about lists and whatnot.
Originally posted by GottaHaveIt@April 7, 2005, 12:35 AM
Is not this price gouging thing eleagle ? like ok we just had a major earth quake and now the local grocer wants to charge outta the world price for what food they have left kinda thing its just wrong. So don't buy into it let the maket settle down then look ? :scratch: :nono:
Is not this price gouging thing eleagle ? like ok we just had a major earth quake and now the local grocer wants to charge outta the world price for what food they have left kinda thing its just wrong. So don't buy into it let the maket settle down then look ? :scratch: :nono:
Originally posted by 1 BULLITT@April 11, 2005, 2:51 PM
I've made some excellent deals with all my Mustangs. Part is due to good negotiations and patience, the other part was dealer ignorance. That is no longer the case. As we have progressed our knowledge through forums such as TMS so have the dealers. The prove is how they are all singing in unison. We are in for some tough negotiating.
I've made some excellent deals with all my Mustangs. Part is due to good negotiations and patience, the other part was dealer ignorance. That is no longer the case. As we have progressed our knowledge through forums such as TMS so have the dealers. The prove is how they are all singing in unison. We are in for some tough negotiating.
One thing that stuck with me is that he wanted me to call him back if I was able to find a dealer in AZ that would allow me to order at the plan price. Perhaps it was so that they would have the opportunity to match it (unlikely). Perhaps they wanted to call that dealer (if I could find one) and ask them what they are doing "giving" a GT away. I know that is the synic in me, but is this be a form of price fixing?
Anyway, with a challenge like that, I will find a dealer in AZ that will work with me. I am determined, and will start visiting other dealers this week.
On a more positive note, it is good to see demand like this for Ford products. With their recent credit rating falling to junk bond status, every little bit helps.
Originally posted by beneman@May 15, 2005, 10:08 AM
I was thinking about that recently. On Friday, I spoke with a friend of mine who is a Fleet Mgr. at one of the largest Ford dealers in AZ. I am X plan eligible, and the best he could do for me was MSRP + $2500 to order an 06 GT Vert. He explained where his dealership was coming from on the demand side(six 06 GTs on order @$2500 over MSRP as of Friday).
One thing that stuck with me is that he wanted me to call him back if I was able to find a dealer in AZ that would allow me to order at the plan price. Perhaps it was so that they would have the opportunity to match it (unlikely). Perhaps they wanted to call that dealer (if I could find one) and ask them what they are doing "giving" a GT away. I know that is the synic in me, but is this be a form of price fixing?
Anyway, with a challenge like that, I will find a dealer in AZ that will work with me. I am determined, and will start visiting other dealers this week.
On a more positive note, it is good to see demand like this for Ford products. With their recent credit rating falling to junk bond status, every little bit helps.
I was thinking about that recently. On Friday, I spoke with a friend of mine who is a Fleet Mgr. at one of the largest Ford dealers in AZ. I am X plan eligible, and the best he could do for me was MSRP + $2500 to order an 06 GT Vert. He explained where his dealership was coming from on the demand side(six 06 GTs on order @$2500 over MSRP as of Friday).
One thing that stuck with me is that he wanted me to call him back if I was able to find a dealer in AZ that would allow me to order at the plan price. Perhaps it was so that they would have the opportunity to match it (unlikely). Perhaps they wanted to call that dealer (if I could find one) and ask them what they are doing "giving" a GT away. I know that is the synic in me, but is this be a form of price fixing?
Anyway, with a challenge like that, I will find a dealer in AZ that will work with me. I am determined, and will start visiting other dealers this week.
On a more positive note, it is good to see demand like this for Ford products. With their recent credit rating falling to junk bond status, every little bit helps.
LOL I am not posting to start trouble but I must say that the guy who started this thread is the same one who just bought the GTO. He was all hot and horny for weeks about the Shelby and getting on a list and all that ca ca and then went out to buy the GTO. If he is happy with his purchase it is all that matters and I wont bash someone for their choice and happiness. But it just cracks me up. fairweather comes to mind. Guess he better call and get his name taken off the Shelby wating list
Fairweather comes to mind because that's what all consumers should be. As consumers, if you get frustrated because a company is not honoring their part of the bargain by putting out the best products at reasonable prices with reasonable quality and reasonable forecasting/distribution (availability) -- then that's not the consumers issue, it is the manufacturer.
And if Ford can't meet my needs, like all reasonable consumers, I may go somewhere else and choose something else, because of a combination of availability, technology, styling, functionality, economy/power, convenience and so on. So look at Mr. GTO as a lost sale by Ford/Ford Dealers. Individually, doesn't matter -- but a lot of them, and it is a signal that something not meshing with customers.
And if Ford can't meet my needs, like all reasonable consumers, I may go somewhere else and choose something else, because of a combination of availability, technology, styling, functionality, economy/power, convenience and so on. So look at Mr. GTO as a lost sale by Ford/Ford Dealers. Individually, doesn't matter -- but a lot of them, and it is a signal that something not meshing with customers.
Originally posted by dke@May 31, 2005, 5:16 PM
Fairweather comes to mind because that's what all consumers should be. As consumers, if you get frustrated because a company is not honoring their part of the bargain by putting out the best products at reasonable prices with reasonable quality and reasonable forecasting/distribution (availability) -- then that's not the consumers issue, it is the manufacturer.
And if Ford can't meet my needs, like all reasonable consumers, I may go somewhere else and choose something else, because of a combination of availability, technology, styling, functionality, economy/power, convenience and so on. So look at Mr. GTO as a lost sale by Ford/Ford Dealers. Individually, doesn't matter -- but a lot of them, and it is a signal that something not meshing with customers.
Fairweather comes to mind because that's what all consumers should be. As consumers, if you get frustrated because a company is not honoring their part of the bargain by putting out the best products at reasonable prices with reasonable quality and reasonable forecasting/distribution (availability) -- then that's not the consumers issue, it is the manufacturer.
And if Ford can't meet my needs, like all reasonable consumers, I may go somewhere else and choose something else, because of a combination of availability, technology, styling, functionality, economy/power, convenience and so on. So look at Mr. GTO as a lost sale by Ford/Ford Dealers. Individually, doesn't matter -- but a lot of them, and it is a signal that something not meshing with customers.
And I think the jury is still out on the Shelby. We have no way yet of knowing that Ford hasn't "honored their part of the bargain."



