GT500 could do 11.5!
6/9/05, 09:45 AM
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Yeah there is noway a c6 can run 11.5 stock that is close to est of what the test mule C6 Z06 is running. Max you said noone has tested the Z06 then you go to say the GT500 will be slower in a straight line and get waxed on a road course if you havent heard noone has tested the GT500 ether and i know you will say well C&D tested they might have tested the mule but not the actual production car and they really never tested it cause in the magazine they never gave actual numbers. What i am trying to say is how do you know it will be slower in a straight line and get waxed on a road course when it isnt even out yet here is a smart idea wait until they both come out and we actually have real numbers not est numbers then make your statement.
6/9/05, 09:50 AM
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Originally posted by iceman241@June 9, 2005, 9:48 AM
Yeah there is noway a c6 can run 11.5 stock that is close to est of what the test mule C6 Z06 is running. Max you said noone has tested the Z06 then you go to say the GT500 will be slower in a straight line and get waxed on a road course if you havent heard noone has tested the GT500 ether and i know you will say well C&D tested they might have tested the mule but not the actual production car and they really never tested it cause in the magazine they never gave actual numbers. What i am trying to say is how do you know it will be slower in a straight line and get waxed on a road course when it isnt even out yet here is a smart idea wait until they both come out and we actually have real numbers not est numbers then make your statement.
Yeah there is noway a c6 can run 11.5 stock that is close to est of what the test mule C6 Z06 is running. Max you said noone has tested the Z06 then you go to say the GT500 will be slower in a straight line and get waxed on a road course if you havent heard noone has tested the GT500 ether and i know you will say well C&D tested they might have tested the mule but not the actual production car and they really never tested it cause in the magazine they never gave actual numbers. What i am trying to say is how do you know it will be slower in a straight line and get waxed on a road course when it isnt even out yet here is a smart idea wait until they both come out and we actually have real numbers not est numbers then make your statement.
6/9/05, 10:13 AM
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try telling that to sknapp or did you read his article about how the GT can keep up with the enzo even though the enzo has 650hp and the GT has 550hp and the GT wieghs more then the enzo but yet it still can keep up with it how is that . The same goes for the GT500 and the z06 and like sknapp said the FordGT engine is very close to the GT500 engine i dont see why it wouldnt be able to keep up with the Z06 if that is the case. Also whatever hp they give it say 475hp even if it is higher then that you also have to consider it might be underated so the GT500 might very well have 500 or more hp.
6/9/05, 10:22 AM
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Originally posted by iceman241@June 9, 2005, 10:48 AM
Yeah there is noway a c6 can run 11.5 stock that is close to est of what the test mule C6 Z06 is running. Max you said noone has tested the Z06 then you go to say the GT500 will be slower in a straight line and get waxed on a road course if you havent heard noone has tested the GT500 ether and i know you will say well C&D tested they might have tested the mule but not the actual production car and they really never tested it cause in the magazine they never gave actual numbers. What i am trying to say is how do you know it will be slower in a straight line and get waxed on a road course when it isnt even out yet here is a smart idea wait until they both come out and we actually have real numbers not est numbers then make your statement.
Yeah there is noway a c6 can run 11.5 stock that is close to est of what the test mule C6 Z06 is running. Max you said noone has tested the Z06 then you go to say the GT500 will be slower in a straight line and get waxed on a road course if you havent heard noone has tested the GT500 ether and i know you will say well C&D tested they might have tested the mule but not the actual production car and they really never tested it cause in the magazine they never gave actual numbers. What i am trying to say is how do you know it will be slower in a straight line and get waxed on a road course when it isnt even out yet here is a smart idea wait until they both come out and we actually have real numbers not est numbers then make your statement.
A. The C6 Z06 makes more power and weighs less.
B. The Z06 was built for the track. Look at its specs. The GT500 is more of a match for a C6 in terms of hanlding. The GT500 is bloated at 3800+ lbs, has an SRA, an inferior COG, and inferior weight distribution.
6/9/05, 01:47 PM
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I actually feel dumber for reading this thread.
You're comparing a car that hasn't been really tested, to a car that hasn't been tested at all...final form.
You're being a bit TOO optimistic....
Why not settle down until we see concrete numbers. You're fighting a losing battle.
I'm not being a pesimist, I'm being a realist
You're comparing a car that hasn't been really tested, to a car that hasn't been tested at all...final form.
You're being a bit TOO optimistic....
Why not settle down until we see concrete numbers. You're fighting a losing battle.
I'm not being a pesimist, I'm being a realist
6/9/05, 07:19 PM
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Originally posted by 68notch@June 6, 2005, 3:08 PM
The fact is consulting mainstream auto magazines like C&D, Motor Trend, etc. is an unreliable indicator of vehicle performance.
The fact is consulting mainstream auto magazines like C&D, Motor Trend, etc. is an unreliable indicator of vehicle performance.
6/10/05, 05:54 AM
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The GT500 isn't simply a GT motor with a smaller pulley, Ford, in their neverending stupidity pulled a fast one on us all by sticking an Eaton roots blower on the GT500 just like the one in the 03-04 Cobras. No twin screw, which means the thing has no chance keeping up with the ZO6.
But my biggest beef with the thing is how on their top dog Mustang, the frikking Shelby, comes with the exact same seats as are in the V6 model. My Focus has more side bolstering than the new GT500 seats which is pathetic...
But my biggest beef with the thing is how on their top dog Mustang, the frikking Shelby, comes with the exact same seats as are in the V6 model. My Focus has more side bolstering than the new GT500 seats which is pathetic...
6/10/05, 06:04 AM
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Originally posted by Black331@June 10, 2005, 5:57 AM
The GT500 isn't simply a GT motor with a smaller pulley, Ford, in their neverending stupidity pulled a fast one on us all by sticking an Eaton roots blower on the GT500 just like the one in the 03-04 Cobras. No twin screw, which means the thing has no chance keeping up with the ZO6.
But my biggest beef with the thing is how on their top dog Mustang, the frikking Shelby, comes with the exact same seats as are in the V6 model. My Focus has more side bolstering than the new GT500 seats which is pathetic...
The GT500 isn't simply a GT motor with a smaller pulley, Ford, in their neverending stupidity pulled a fast one on us all by sticking an Eaton roots blower on the GT500 just like the one in the 03-04 Cobras. No twin screw, which means the thing has no chance keeping up with the ZO6.
But my biggest beef with the thing is how on their top dog Mustang, the frikking Shelby, comes with the exact same seats as are in the V6 model. My Focus has more side bolstering than the new GT500 seats which is pathetic...
6/10/05, 06:07 AM
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Originally posted by Black331@June 10, 2005, 5:57 AM
The GT500 isn't simply a GT motor with a smaller pulley, Ford, in their neverending stupidity pulled a fast one on us all by sticking an Eaton roots blower on the GT500 just like the one in the 03-04 Cobras. No twin screw, which means the thing has no chance keeping up with the ZO6.
The GT500 isn't simply a GT motor with a smaller pulley, Ford, in their neverending stupidity pulled a fast one on us all by sticking an Eaton roots blower on the GT500 just like the one in the 03-04 Cobras. No twin screw, which means the thing has no chance keeping up with the ZO6.
6/10/05, 06:41 AM
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Originally posted by Robert@June 9, 2005, 8:22 PM
In what respect, exactly? In the real world or at the track?
In what respect, exactly? In the real world or at the track?
Something tells me that any one of their editors could spank you on a road coarse.
6/10/05, 06:45 AM
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Originally posted by 68notch@June 10, 2005, 6:44 AM
In what respect? Gee. Hmm. Oh, yeah! Quarter-mile performance, which happens to subject of this thread! Better driving can take a car that traps 116 mph into the 11's. Period. As I said in my original post, icemans' estimate was a bit low, but his point was valid: there's more in the GT500 than C&D reports. Since trap speed and ET's are being reported, of course I'm talking about the track. Jeez.
e-Challenges are the lowest form of message board discourse. Or, as you would say, "discoarse."
In what respect? Gee. Hmm. Oh, yeah! Quarter-mile performance, which happens to subject of this thread! Better driving can take a car that traps 116 mph into the 11's. Period. As I said in my original post, icemans' estimate was a bit low, but his point was valid: there's more in the GT500 than C&D reports. Since trap speed and ET's are being reported, of course I'm talking about the track. Jeez.
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6/10/05, 06:50 AM
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Originally posted by holderca1@June 10, 2005, 7:48 AM
Those were estimates, C&D didn't test the car.
Those were estimates, C&D didn't test the car.
6/10/05, 07:07 AM
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Originally posted by Robert@June 10, 2005, 6:07 AM
Same seats except with two-tone, is that what you're saying?
Same seats except with two-tone, is that what you're saying?
Yes, haven't you seen the pics? They are exactly the same other than color..
6/10/05, 07:18 AM
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Originally posted by holderca1@June 10, 2005, 6:10 AM
...and it's an iron block instead of aluminum...
...and it's an iron block instead of aluminum...
Yes, I know, and it's a fatty, which is why the decision to switch to the Eaton is a real let down. All that weight would still move pretty good with a screw type blower, and a quick pulley change would have it making as much power as a GT or a lot more with an even smaller pulley. It'll still be impressive with the Eaton, just not what it could have for the exact same price.
But I've learned to have low expectations with Ford, otherwise you'll be pretty disappointed on a continual basis, who can forget the heartbreaking cancellation of the Lightning??
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