iceman241

Like i said when MM&FF test drive the GT500 they will get it in the 11s and from what you gave those times are pretty close to me or is that my imagination just imagine what MM&FF will do if C&D can do that. And wakerider iwouldnt call 12.5 compared to 11.7 being slaughtered if they can get those times MM&FFwill get even closer times.

iceman241

Man if those times or that close to the Z06 with a few hundered dollars in mods the z06 will have no chance.

holderca1

Put a twin screw on the Z06, or twin turbo and the GT500 will never touch it, blah, blah, blah, the mods argument is so lame, so don't start it.

iceman241

And you said the GT500 is no competition for the Z06 come on people its obivious it will be. My bet is that when MM&FF test drive these cars the Z06 will get about 11.2 or 11flat and the gt500 about 11.5 or 11.7 ether way the times wont be far apart if a magazine like C&D can get times like that what makes you think MM&FF wont get lower times like they have always done? They have always got cars to have lower times then other magazines so why wont they with the GT500 and Z06?

iceman241

Yeah but holder if you put a twin screw on the Z06 and put a twin screw on the GT500 which one will cost less to do let everyone mod the gt500 to how much you pay for a Z06 its only fair.

iceman241

ether way the GT500 will be the better bang for your buck face it.

68notch

I agree with Iceman's 1st post. The GT500's trap speed indicates there's more in her ET-wise. I am confident that the production version of the car will dip into 11's. Maybe 11.5 was a bit liberal, but I can see at least 0.6-7 sec better when MM&FF gets ahold of the car. The true quarter-mile potential of this car in "stock" form won't be reached until you get a magazine whose test pilot powershifts and pulls a good 60'.

The fact is consulting mainstream auto magazines like C&D, Motor Trend, etc. is an unreliable indicator of vehicle performance. The ET/trap someone listed for the C6 Z06 is proof--an excellent driver could take a 127 mph vehicle into the 10's.

AbusiveWombat

they don't get low 12's stock. Try mid to high 12's @ ~110 mph.

KansasCityTim

Same for the Z06. Please don't start with the mod argument again. Anyone can mod a car...we are talking about factory stock. But, if you want to compare, you are comparing a 5.4L blown V8 on the shelby with an N/A 427 cid (7.0L) V8 on the Z06. You can spend a thousand bucks on the Shebly to put it at 525-550, but the same money strapping a blower on the 7.0L will put you at 600+.

KansasCityTim

For the last time, per your line of argument, we are NOT comparing price or value. You made the incorrect statement that the Shelby would be close to the Z06 in performance, and you are simply wrong. Value-wise, the Shelby is a supremely better value, but if you look at strict performance, the Z06 wins.

iceman241

KansasCity did you read 68notchs post even he agrees with me that the production shelby will get in the 11s how much in the 11s i dont know but i can promise you MM&FF will get it in the 11s do the calculations people thankyou for agreeing with me 68notch.

iceman241

Wombat i hate to burst your bubble but MM&FF have gotten a 03-04 cobra in the low 12s .

iceman241

Kansascity the Z06 and GT500 will basically be close in hp range.

KansasCityTim

Yes...and he also said that if the same drivers drove a Z06, they might be able to get it into the 10's. At any rate, you are wanting to compare the best drivers in a Shelby against mediocre drivers in a Z06. Even you should surely know that if you want to truly see how a car performs against another, you eliminate as many variables as possible, hence you should use the same drivers. All things being equal, the Z06 will own the Shelby. Granted, the Shelby should cost much less, but if we are talking pure performance, that should not matter.

EDIT: By the way, this is how you add an afterthought.....

I agree, the two cars will be separated by 25-30 hp, but the Z06 will weigh up to 500 less I believe (I didn't check the Z06's weight....going from earlier model years). That is a heck of a chunk.

iceman241

And your right mods shouldnt be mentioned.

iceman241

Ok say the MM&FF get the GT500 to run in the 11s and say the z06 to run 10s how is that getting owned when they wont be that far apart i already said the GT500 will lose against the z06 but owned noway. Think about it a car that cost 35 grand more and the GT500 isnt that far behind which one do you think people will buy?

iceman241

I dont believe that they will get the z06 in the 10s stock but 11flat yeah that they should be able to do. If the z06 can run in the 10s it would be able to keep up with or beat the FordGT cause the GT ran 10.9 quarter stock with slicks.

iceman241

Didnt everyone tell me i was wrong about saying the Z06 will keep up with the FordGT now who is worng.

KansasCityTim

I have the numbers....the Shelby is supposed to weigh 3850, correct? The Z06 will come in at 3130. 720 lb. difference. The Shelby weighs 23% more than the Z06. That is a HUGE difference.

As to owning, yes a one second difference in the 1/4 mile is owning. Cars that are close finish within a few tenths of one another. When you approach a full second difference, it is no longer close. Think about it, a car running 10 seconds in the 1/4 mile is nearly 10% faster than one that runs 11.

iceman241

Actually we dont no for sure how much the production GT500 will wiegh and i think the times will be closer then you think when MM&FF drive them. If the production shelby wieghs less we could see better times meaning closer to the Z06.