Off Road H Pipe
Originally posted by y22kc@October 18, 2005, 10:40 AM
Put me down for one on the group buy.
Put me down for one on the group buy.
INTERESTED IN GROUP BUY
S197 GT
SCHMADS
y22kc
Guess I am on the fence so to speak. If I can buy an off-road x-pipe from Brenspeed at $179 per his webpage and the "group buy" price is no different for an h-pipe but I have to wait on it......i may just lean to the x-pipe.
Originally posted by smerrill@October 19, 2005, 9:50 AM
Guess I am on the fence so to speak. If I can buy an off-road x-pipe from Brenspeed at $179 per his webpage and the "group buy" price is no different for an h-pipe but I have to wait on it......i may just lean to the x-pipe.
Guess I am on the fence so to speak. If I can buy an off-road x-pipe from Brenspeed at $179 per his webpage and the "group buy" price is no different for an h-pipe but I have to wait on it......i may just lean to the x-pipe.
There is no "group buy" price yet. I am going to ask Brent if he is interested in offering a group buy once the H-Pipe is ready. This is HYPOTHETICAL at this point.
I think it would be easier to approach him if I had ten or so buyers as opposed to just me.
INTERESTED IN (HYPOTHETICAL) GROUP BUY
S197 GT
SCHMADS
y22kc
Fman67
eromzek
I'm gonna have to warn you guys that I may not be as up for the group buy as I was before. I'm taking a vacation next week, and I expect it will deplete my upgrade funds for the time being. But good luck with it! I have a feeling Brent is going to get you a good price regardless 
And I expect lots of installation info, pictures, details, dyno charts and other things to encourage me to save up and get it ASAP!

And I expect lots of installation info, pictures, details, dyno charts and other things to encourage me to save up and get it ASAP!
INTERESTED IN (HYPOTHETICAL) GROUP BUY
S197 GT
SCHMADS
y22kc
Fman67
eromzek
05-1947
Originally posted by schmads@October 19, 2005, 9:55 PM
I'm gonna have to warn you guys that I may not be as up for the group buy as I was before. I'm taking a vacation next week, and I expect it will deplete my upgrade funds for the time being. But good luck with it! I have a feeling Brent is going to get you a good price regardless
And I expect lots of installation info, pictures, details, dyno charts and other things to encourage me to save up and get it ASAP!
I'm gonna have to warn you guys that I may not be as up for the group buy as I was before. I'm taking a vacation next week, and I expect it will deplete my upgrade funds for the time being. But good luck with it! I have a feeling Brent is going to get you a good price regardless

And I expect lots of installation info, pictures, details, dyno charts and other things to encourage me to save up and get it ASAP!
I spoke with Brent yesterday and the company has still not sent him the prototype and they haven't returned his calls. So he has no new update when it may be available. I was asking about some other things and this pipe came up. He said he would get the data as soon as he gets the pipe. If you do mention a group buy include me.
Can this H pipe be modded in such a way that some high flow cats can be welded onto them? That way, we could have a pretty cheap H pipe with high flow cats that bolts directly onto the stock exhaust setup...??
Hello everybody I have a little update for you.
To answer a few questions listed above I would not put cats on the H because you will be not much better off than stock. The factory Ford cats flow really well.
The manufacturer called me today and WE ARE CROSSING our fingers that I will have something here next week. Next Friday they leave for SEMA and will be gone for over a week and I will not have contact with my sales guy during that time. We made some changes to a couple things on the H pipe since the last time I posted and this combined with busy SEMA season has made this difficult. It were any other month this wouldnt take so long. Most manufactures are prepairing SEMA cars and the such and everybody seems to be scrambling right now.
Group Purchase: I would love to do a G/P for you guys on some parts but this H pipe is not a good choice. I am selling it for $179 shipped to any state and I have no room to move after I pay shipping and all the other costs (at this point). The best I MIGHT be able to do is a $10 discount for a G/P on the H Pipe and I dont know if that would be worth your trouble. BUT if you guys have something else you want a GP on and I can help that would be no problem. Even if I dont stock it let me know and I might be interested in starting to stock it for you.
THANKS!
To answer a few questions listed above I would not put cats on the H because you will be not much better off than stock. The factory Ford cats flow really well.
The manufacturer called me today and WE ARE CROSSING our fingers that I will have something here next week. Next Friday they leave for SEMA and will be gone for over a week and I will not have contact with my sales guy during that time. We made some changes to a couple things on the H pipe since the last time I posted and this combined with busy SEMA season has made this difficult. It were any other month this wouldnt take so long. Most manufactures are prepairing SEMA cars and the such and everybody seems to be scrambling right now.
Group Purchase: I would love to do a G/P for you guys on some parts but this H pipe is not a good choice. I am selling it for $179 shipped to any state and I have no room to move after I pay shipping and all the other costs (at this point). The best I MIGHT be able to do is a $10 discount for a G/P on the H Pipe and I dont know if that would be worth your trouble. BUT if you guys have something else you want a GP on and I can help that would be no problem. Even if I dont stock it let me know and I might be interested in starting to stock it for you.
THANKS!
Originally posted by BRENSPEED@October 21, 2005, 4:48 PM
Hello everybody I have a little update for you.
To answer a few questions listed above I would not put cats on the H because you will be not much better off than stock. The factory Ford cats flow really well.
The manufacturer called me today and WE ARE CROSSING our fingers that I will have something here next week. Next Friday they leave for SEMA and will be gone for over a week and I will not have contact with my sales guy during that time. We made some changes to a couple things on the H pipe since the last time I posted and this combined with busy SEMA season has made this difficult. It were any other month this wouldnt take so long. Most manufactures are prepairing SEMA cars and the such and everybody seems to be scrambling right now.
Group Purchase: I would love to do a G/P for you guys on some parts but this H pipe is not a good choice. I am selling it for $179 shipped to any state and I have no room to move after I pay shipping and all the other costs (at this point). The best I MIGHT be able to do is a $10 discount for a G/P on the H Pipe and I dont know if that would be worth your trouble. BUT if you guys have something else you want a GP on and I can help that would be no problem. Even if I dont stock it let me know and I might be interested in starting to stock it for you.
THANKS!
Hello everybody I have a little update for you.
To answer a few questions listed above I would not put cats on the H because you will be not much better off than stock. The factory Ford cats flow really well.
The manufacturer called me today and WE ARE CROSSING our fingers that I will have something here next week. Next Friday they leave for SEMA and will be gone for over a week and I will not have contact with my sales guy during that time. We made some changes to a couple things on the H pipe since the last time I posted and this combined with busy SEMA season has made this difficult. It were any other month this wouldnt take so long. Most manufactures are prepairing SEMA cars and the such and everybody seems to be scrambling right now.
Group Purchase: I would love to do a G/P for you guys on some parts but this H pipe is not a good choice. I am selling it for $179 shipped to any state and I have no room to move after I pay shipping and all the other costs (at this point). The best I MIGHT be able to do is a $10 discount for a G/P on the H Pipe and I dont know if that would be worth your trouble. BUT if you guys have something else you want a GP on and I can help that would be no problem. Even if I dont stock it let me know and I might be interested in starting to stock it for you.
THANKS!
Your note answered a question I had - that the stock cats could be used. Interested pending what this is going to sound like.
I'm also interested in whether this will pass inspections. In Austin we're now doing "tailpipe sniffer" emissions, although apparently with newer cars, it just hooks up to the ODB-II and runs that way. Since it sounds like you can turn off the rear O2 sensors with a tuner (so no check engine light), would that let me get away with this for emissions? Do they still do a visual inspection and say "hey, there are no cats there, wtf are you doing, you evil, polluting capitalist?" I bet clockworks wouldn't mind knowing this, or if you already do, let me know. Anyone else in Austin or that has similar laws that knows?
Ranger, when I read his post, I infer that he means that you shouldn't use cats at all with this setup, because then you're just back at the stock H+cats setup. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding it, but I kinda though the "point" of this setup would be to remove the cats from the equation for more power (and probably sound... good sound I hope).
Ranger, when I read his post, I infer that he means that you shouldn't use cats at all with this setup, because then you're just back at the stock H+cats setup. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding it, but I kinda though the "point" of this setup would be to remove the cats from the equation for more power (and probably sound... good sound I hope).
The rule in alot of PA is a Computer check with a visual inspection. In MD it is a tailpipe test only.
With the tune I got from Alt Auto it doesn't matter if you have cats on or not the computer will pass. It's the visual that will kill you if you run offorad pipe in PA.
In MD it doesn't matter if you run a tune that says pass on the computer or not if the car is not to their specs on the tailpipe it will fail.
If your state does the visual then you will need something that at least looks like a cat to pass unless you know somebody.
I was kinda looking at the Bassani's that you can remove the cats and install a straight pipe and back but they are alot of money. It depends on how easy and quick you can switch this pipe back to stock at inspection time will make my possible sale.
With the tune I got from Alt Auto it doesn't matter if you have cats on or not the computer will pass. It's the visual that will kill you if you run offorad pipe in PA.
In MD it doesn't matter if you run a tune that says pass on the computer or not if the car is not to their specs on the tailpipe it will fail.
If your state does the visual then you will need something that at least looks like a cat to pass unless you know somebody.
I was kinda looking at the Bassani's that you can remove the cats and install a straight pipe and back but they are alot of money. It depends on how easy and quick you can switch this pipe back to stock at inspection time will make my possible sale.
Originally posted by schmads@October 21, 2005, 5:50 PM
I'm also interested in whether this will pass inspections. In Austin we're now doing "tailpipe sniffer" emissions, although apparently with newer cars, it just hooks up to the ODB-II and runs that way. Since it sounds like you can turn off the rear O2 sensors with a tuner (so no check engine light), would that let me get away with this for emissions? Do they still do a visual inspection and say "hey, there are no cats there, wtf are you doing, you evil, polluting capitalist?" I bet clockworks wouldn't mind knowing this, or if you already do, let me know. Anyone else in Austin or that has similar laws that knows?
I'm also interested in whether this will pass inspections. In Austin we're now doing "tailpipe sniffer" emissions, although apparently with newer cars, it just hooks up to the ODB-II and runs that way. Since it sounds like you can turn off the rear O2 sensors with a tuner (so no check engine light), would that let me get away with this for emissions? Do they still do a visual inspection and say "hey, there are no cats there, wtf are you doing, you evil, polluting capitalist?" I bet clockworks wouldn't mind knowing this, or if you already do, let me know. Anyone else in Austin or that has similar laws that knows?
), so I could swap them with the stock H pipe before having inspections done. Although, it would be nice not to have to do that every year...Btw, that part in red is hilarious...definitely sounds like Austin...
All my friends that I tell this idea to ask "Are you sure the tree hugging Austin hippies won't key you car for it?"
Ranger, when I read his post, I infer that he means that you shouldn't use cats at all with this setup, because then you're just back at the stock H+cats setup. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding it, but I kinda though the "point" of this setup would be to remove the cats from the equation for more power (and probably sound... good sound I hope).
I dunno, I'm sure Brent knows tons more than me, seeing as how he has a dyno and all. If putting high flow cats on this H pipe makes it only a couple more hp than stock, then screw it, I'll give the uncatted version a try...
I'm a little late reading this thread... but if anyone is interested, I'd sell my stock h-pipe (that I gutted the cats out of) to someone for cheap... just PM me. I will be installing the Bassani off-road x-pipe any day now, so will have no need for my off-road h-pipe. This would be good for someone who wants to appear like they have cats, since from under the car you can see the cats. They have just been completely hollowed out. I'm sure that having larger diameter pipe there (where the cats were) creates a bit of backpressure and make the exhaust note different than if the cats were cut out and 2.5" diameter pipe was welded in their place. But, you could easily take it to an exhaust shop, or a welder, and have them do that for next to nothing. This h-pipe (with my Magnaflows) has a menacing growl. Hard to explain in words. I'll get a sound clip tonight, if someone can host it for me tomorrow, let me know.




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