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Granatelli MAF--where are you????

Old Jul 17, 2006 | 10:24 AM
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just wait till your car starts going into failsafe all of the time!
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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by official_style
just wait till your car starts going into failsafe all of the time!
LOL... I was thinking the same thing.
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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 06:37 PM
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I realize a few people had isues with other companies t-bodies but GMS has been pretty much clear of that issue - We made a blade to bore design change and that eliminated the issue

That is why we spend so much time telling the customer how to adjust the blades
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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by don_w
LOL... I was thinking the same thing.

Don - this t-body isuse was center around the manual trans. The auto trans cars never had a problem
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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 06:42 PM
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the problem i had with the 2 of mine, the first one, the gears were to close toghether so they would bind. the 2nd one, was leaking air from the rod that holds the blade. thats when i was like ok this is a waste of my time, went back to stock and didnt notice any difference except the car idles normally and no failsafe. this was with the LFP throttle body though. they are all from the same manufacturer tho arent they?
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 07:10 AM
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Mine is on and working fine.

Well I have had mine on for a couple of days now and it's running great. You can definitely tell a difference and so far no lights, warnings or unexpected results. Seems to be living up to it's word which is nice for a change and you can bet I would & will report any problems. It did as stated in the instructions, idles fast for a couple of minutes and that eventually went away and it's now down around 800 again. So far Granatelli rocks. (a five smile product). Oh, and mine is a manual tranny. (oh, and I still want to know why id didn't come with the laser engraved GMS logo as stated in all documentation)....
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by harleybill
Well I have had mine on for a couple of days now and it's running great. You can definitely tell a difference and so far no lights, warnings or unexpected results. Seems to be living up to it's word which is nice for a change and you can bet I would & will report any problems. It did as stated in the instructions, idles fast for a couple of minutes and that eventually went away and it's now down around 800 again. So far Granatelli rocks. (a five smile product). Oh, and mine is a manual tranny. (oh, and I still want to know why id didn't come with the laser engraved GMS logo as stated in all documentation)....
Sorry we stopped lazar engraving the GMS no in the t- body. We ust supply the decal instead. We are are to lazar the part if you want to send it back
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by harleybill
Well I have had mine on for a couple of days now and it's running great. You can definitely tell a difference and so far no lights, warnings or unexpected results. Seems to be living up to it's word which is nice for a change and you can bet I would & will report any problems.
So did you also get the Granatelli CAI ordered and installed? Come on man, you're our beta tester! Seriously, I know they've sold some but I think you're the only person I found so far that has ordered one and installed it. Of course now that you have the TB on first it will be hard to tell what gains the CAI by itself would bring but there's probably quite a few people curious as to how well the CAI performs. Let us know when you can. Thanks!
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 10:24 PM
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Don't forget me, Bill..I'm also very interested, as well..
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by m05fastbackGT
Don't forget me, Bill..I'm also very interested, as well..
See the latest MM&FF page 181
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 11:11 PM
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http://www.granatellimotorsports.com...rinduction.htm just click where it says see articles in
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 02:33 PM
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Still Waiting.

Originally Posted by blaster
So did you also get the Granatelli CAI ordered and installed? Come on man, you're our beta tester! Seriously, I know they've sold some but I think you're the only person I found so far that has ordered one and installed it. Of course now that you have the TB on first it will be hard to tell what gains the CAI by itself would bring but there's probably quite a few people curious as to how well the CAI performs. Let us know when you can. Thanks!
This is driving me nuts but I'm still waiting on the Cai/Mas. It should have been shipped possibly wed of last week or thursday at the latest so I'm hoping it will be there when I get home tonight. It's gotta be here before the weekend unless it didn't ship or they sent it by rickshaw.
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 02:55 PM
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40 rwhp and 37.5 rwt without a reflash is huge! Has Bamachips messed with this CAI/MAF yet?
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Granatelli
See the latest MM&FF page 181
I did. On the top of the page it says "PAID ADVERTISEMENT". If you expect us to believe that MM&FF reviewed your product because it is an ad in the magazine that looks like a review, we're not all that dumb. You guys are looking shadier all the time.
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by bryman
I did. On the top of the page it says "PAID ADVERTISEMENT". If you expect us to believe that MM&FF reviewed your product because it is an ad in the magazine that looks like a review, we're not all that dumb. You guys are looking shadier all the time.

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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 11:05 PM
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For shame! The link on your website makes it read like the "article" was published in MM&FF by their staff as no where does it say anything about it being an ad you ran in the mag. I would call that intentionally misleading the customer. That is about as shady as you can get.
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by shatter
40 rwhp and 37.5 rwt without a reflash is huge! Has Bamachips messed with this CAI/MAF yet?


Originally Posted by bryman
I did. On the top of the page it says "PAID ADVERTISEMENT". If you expect us to believe that MM&FF reviewed your product because it is an ad in the magazine that looks like a review, we're not all that dumb. You guys are looking shadier all the time.



Come on guys – some of you are really working hard at trying to find a flaw in an otherwise great product. This article in Mustanglife was written by Dan Sanchez. You are welcome to check it out and confirm.

http://mustanglife.tenmagazines.com/tenarticle.asp?aid=2550&sid=21

The article by John Delaney is a re-do of the original by Ten magazine. A few of you are making it out like we are trying to hide the fact that we paid to have the article reprinted. It states paid advertisement and the reason our web does not is because we did not pay to put it on our own site.

Ahh the internet, give a person the chance to create a problem and they will. If some of you feel the jury is still out on this part then we accept that. Like I said from Day One, if anyone feels they must purchase a $350 flash tool to make their cold air intake work we offer the CIA with no electronics. Just order the part number 410040-1 for satin finish or 410040-P1 for polished finish.

http://www.granatellimotorsports.com/05mustang/coldairinduction.htm

If anyone thinks they can purchase a higher flowing nicer part, please consider us for your other S197 needs.

Our CIA offers the largest inside diameter inlet I have seen, it has the bosses built into the part for single or dual stage nitrous and it is all one piece.

I have conceded that a flash tool will allow you to make as much power as possible. It should for the extra $350.00 you spend. Since 1992 there have been companies that calibrated the MAF electronics for your Mustangs and there has never been any question. Now all of a sudden for 2005 and beyond a few of you have memory loss.

Know this, 4 of my competitors have contacted the folks at Hitachi and tried to purchase our co branded technology. While they say it isn’t so they secretly try to get their hands on it. – Plain and simple we can scale the slot in meters just like everyone has been doing since 1992. We just figured out the slot-in stuff first. A year from now I bet other CIA companies will have figured it out. In the meantime we offer a beautiful part for a bit less money because you don’t need to reflash. (But you always have that option)
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 05:47 PM
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Don't get me wrong, I'm all for your product if it works. How about showing us a dyno chart on an otherwise stock GT (no GMS throttle body) with the HP, TQ, and A/F ratio? This would provide some credibility.
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 09:38 PM
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Guys, I'm neither here to take sides nor start a flame war..However, after Mr. Granatelli took the time to reply to several of my posts concerning his CAI kit..He also took the time to explain in exact detail how his system works and if anyone of you take the time to read my posts..You'll discover for yourselves, just how skeptical I was..That is until Mr. Granatelli took the time to answer every one of my questions that I threw in his direction..In fact one of those questions concerned the comparison of his system vs. the combination of a CAI/Flash Tuner..And he did in fact acknowledge, that a CAI/Tuner does provide more overall performance and HP. gains than just his cold air intake by itself..Therefore I believe that Mr. Granatelli is credible..Otherwise why would he openly admit that a CAI/Tuner combo out perform his product by itself..?? This doesn't sound like someone who would not be considered as very credible nor does it make any logical sense..In fact even Jay Tucker of JLT has spoken with Mr. Granatelli about his product and acknowledges that it does function, as claimed..As a matter of fact if you look back at the shoot out article in 5.0 Mustang & Super Fords that tested 11 cold air kits..Mr. Granatelli's product is based upon the same principles as the Anderson Ford Motorsport, cold air kit that gained 19 additional HP. with no tune..And this was with an 80mm. Professional Mass Air Meter..Mr. Granatelli on the other hand re-calibrates the factory MAF meter/sensor to his 90mm. intake tube..Therefore, realistically there's no reason why his product shouldn't be capable of producing 16-20 additional HP. with no re-flash required.. Personally, if I hadn't wanted the additional benefits of what only a Tuner/CAI combo can provide..I believe that Mr. Granatelli's product is the best bang for the buck CAI out there, that doesn't require any tuning..IMHO
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Old Jul 24, 2006 | 02:00 PM
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I agree.

Originally Posted by m05fastbackGT
Guys, I'm neither here to take sides, nor start a flame war..However, after Mr. Granatelli took the time, to reply to several of my posts, concerning his CAI kit..He also took the time, to explain in exact detail, how his system works, and if anyone of you, take the time to read my posts..You'll discover for yourselves, just how skeptical I was..That is, until Mr. Granatelli took the time, to answer every one of my questions, that I threw, in his direction..In fact, one of those questions concerned, the comparison of his system vs. the combination of a CAI/Flash Tuner..And, he did in fact acknowledge that a CAI/Tuner, does provide more overall performance and HP. gains, than just his cold air intake, by itself..Therefore, I believe that Mr. Granatelli is credible..Otherwise, why would he openly admit, that a CAI/Tuner combo, out perform his product, by itself..?? This doesn't sound like, someone who would not be considered, as very credible, nor does it make any logical sense..In fact, even Jay Tucker, of JLT has spoken with Mr. Granatelli, about his product, and acknowledges, that it does function, as claimed..As a matter of fact, if you look back at the shoot out article, in 5.0 Mustang & Super Fords, that tested 11 cold air kits..Mr. Granatelli's product, is based upon the same principles, as the Anderson Ford Motorsport, cold air kit that gained 19 additional HP. with no tune..And this was with an 80mm. Professional Mass Air Meter..Mr. Granatelli on the other hand, re-calibrates the factory MAF meter/sensor, to his 90mm. intake tube..Therefore, realistically there's no reason why his product, shouldn't be capable of producing 16-20 additional HP. with no re-flash, required.. Personally, if I hadn't wanted the additional benefits, of what only a Tuner/CAI combo, can provide..I believe, that Mr. Granatelli's product, is the best bang for the buck, CAI out there.. That doesn't require any tuning..IMHO
I have to agree. With the (BOTH) Twin Throttle Body and CAI/MAS you are getting a tremendous upgrade in power of about the same price as a CAI with a tuner and the best thing is you don't have to worry about taking it to a dealer for a repair as these parts can't possibly cause a problem with another part & should something go bad and you still have a virgin tune. Not everybody falls into the tuner mode and if they do, what better than this combo with a tune? This Would be the combo I would like to see a dyno printout on. There must be a bunch of people that agree with this since my order won't ship till tomorrow due to GMS under estimating the demand. JR even agreed to eat the shipping cost due to the delay....You can't bend over much more than that to get things out to the customers. Good customer support, a direct link to a very knowledgable guy and a good product (TBody) (can't vouch for the cai/mas yet). I just don't see how you can go wrong here.
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