Hello Harley Bill,
When you get this installed will you post back about your results? I was thinking of going with this too because I like the fact that it can be pulled off and returned to stock quickly for trip to the dealer for warranty work and no need to reflash.
But I can't find anyone who has actually installed this to say anything about it, a dealer who sells them in Florida hasn't gotten back to me about questions I had after 3 weeks, and I also emailed Granatelli about 3 days ago and get no answers back from them either.
I understand their concept having the calibrated MAS and it all sounds good but what I really want to know is does their calibrated MAS send the correct A/F information to the PCM in all conditions? I'm wondering if anyone has checked the A\F at WOT with this CAI to make sure it's not running lean.
Anyway, if you get it installed please report back with your results. Thanks.

 

JR,

Thanks for responding to this thread. I read both articles on your website but did not find the answers I was looking for. I sent this email to feedback@granatellimotorsports.com on June 22 but never received a reply:Would you be able to answer these questions? Thanks!

 

I will let you know how things go. I am hoping to have the throttle body and mas/cai installed by this weekend or early next week (if it doesn't arrive by saturday). Install looks to be very simple and JR showed me how to do the simple spring change on the throttle body (when he was at Summit). Oh, the 410040 unit, max retail should be about 301.00. Don't pay the MUCH higher prices at other locations...Just do a google on this part and check some of the sites. I have seen it up to 430.00.

 

harleybill,
Are you referring to the satin part or the polished part for $301?

 

I'm not sure if it's polished or not but the add shows the polished with the price of 301.00 (so that would mean it's the unpolished version). This was just a quick search...I would imagine it could be found elsewhere for even less.

 

Yah, I saw that one as well. The prices are so variable that I thought something was up with that. It would be nice to see a pic of the satin finish, and to know what the price difference is.

 

I think the 301.00 at Lethal is the satin because the part number says 410040. The 410040-P is the polished. I found a site that sells the satin 410040 for $289 and the polished for $90 more at $379.

This is the link but I don't know if he actually stocks them yet:

http://www.jdsperformance.com/index....tem&inmake=651

 

Thanks Blaster. I can't wait to see the real versions in different pics and get feedback from people on TMS.

 

I am not sure what more we can say - we guarantee the part. The calibration is spot on. We have shipped well over 300 units with complete success. The magazine guys tested it and made great power - yes it is true they had the t-body on there as well but that only goes to shows they all work together. Let's try this in reverse. Most of the other larger intakes require a reflash to add fuel for the lean condition caused by the MAF electronics. Our electronic are calibrated to make up for the larger intake. This information is no confusing - it is unbelievable to all the other manufactures that do not possess the same skill.

Granatelli should not be punished and doubted because we have an engineering advantage over the others

 

Well, you sold me. Since no other competitors did it, it seemed too good to be true for a lot of people. Now all I need to see is some feedback from real people on the board that buy it and pics of the satin finish.

 

JR,

Looks like a great product, with some good solid engineering to stand behind it. Any thoughts of making a version in black plastic like the C&L Racer intake instead of just the satin or polished aluminum? I like the light weight of the plastic and the fact that they don't heat soak like aluminum. Both my C4 and C5 Corvettes worked just fine with plastic intakes, so I am sure the 4.6L in the Mustang would too. Plus I am sure they would be a little cheaper in plastic versus aluminum. Also what are the average hp and tq gains with just the intake and your MAF without the TB? Thanks in advance!

Buster

 

I'm new to all of this, I would just like to hear from 2-3 of these 300 people?? Is that too much to ask??

 

Well not sure what to make of this but as of today this link now says product not on file. Looks like JDsPerformance removed it for some reason.

 

Wow, this product sure is elusive. Would be nice if a real person could get their hands on one!

 

I found out about the Granatelli CAI almost a month ago and have been very interested since it claimed almost 25 rwhp, the calibrated MAS made a lot of sense, it didn't need a tune so no need to reflash when taking in to dealer for service or warranty and since it came with it's own MAS it even makes it easier to remove and go back to stock for trips to dealer. (and btw my dealer has already made clear that any mods and messing with the computer and I would have to fight them on warranty issues so I'd rather not give them a reason).
So I too would love to hear from anyone that actually has one. I want to think that this is a great product but negative things keep happening like I email Granatelli and they don't reply back, this one shop says they have one on the way and will let me know how an install went, and then I don't hear from them and the next thing I know the product is removed form their web site..doesn't look good.
I mean from what I see Granatelli is very respected in this industry so it all leaves me wondering what the heck is going on with all this.

 

At this time we are not doing a rotational mold in black plastic - the alum does not heat soak - we can do it is black wrinkle finish if you prefer

 

JR,

PM Sent...

Thanks,

Buster

 

Well the throttle body arrived friday and I am putting it on today...Only complaint (and it is a small one) is that they should provide the little 25 cent allen wrench that you HAVE to use to adjust the blades or at least put the correct size in the instructions so there is no guessing. Oh, I used a 5/64th allen wrench.
Why they aren't pre-adjusted also somewhat baffles me but again, small issues but things you need to be aware of. Adjusting the blades or indexing the unit is pretty easy... Just back the allen bolt out out till it's not touching the gear and then back in till it touches and then 1/4 more turn. That's it and your ready to go to the uninstall of the old unit, removing old parts and then putting them on the new unit before reinstall.
I will get some pictures as I go and hopefully early next week the 410040-p unit will arrive and I will post that as well. The throttle body looks to be very well made with brass gears which look to be as precise as a swiss watch and not some plastic junk I have read about in other makes. The allen head adjuster was a bit rounded as if the mold wasn't very well done or maybe rounded during the initial making of the product. Again, this is not an issue with the product or design. (JR, could you send me another allen head screw just for backup purposes). Oh, I am also suprised that the GMS logo is not on this piece as it is in all of the pictures. Below are some of the pictures of the unit out of the box. Note the allen screw with the somewhat rounded edges, the precise brass gearing and smooth overall appearance.

 

Boy, this turned out to be one of the easiest upgrades you can do. As you can see from my previous post, setting/indexing the blades was the only thing you had to do to the new TB before you started taking apart the original. Removing the original was pretty easy but you will need a T20 hex head to remove most of the bolts, a phillips screwdriver, a 10 MM socket (2 nuts at the bottoom of the TB) and a 5/16th socket. None of this is in the instructions so it's good to have all tools before you begin the project.

Once the blades are indexed (previous post), you then proceed to remove the original electronics connections...This is a simple squeeze and pull the connections, one at each side. From here you just remove the 2 top bolts and the 2 bottom nuts and remove the unit, keeping the little red ring gasket in place.

See how easy it is so far.... Now you just remove the 2 bolts at the left side of the TB. Since both blades are closed on the original as well as the new one, it should just slide exactly on the new one and then rebolt. 1 side is finished.
The second side with the spring and gearing are next. Remove just the 5 hex head screws and don't touch the 2 phillips. SLowly pull this back. There is a spring inside but it is locked in a hole and shouldn't fall out. You might have to twist it a little to free it up but it does come out pretty easy. On the original cap that was covering the spring, just go to the back and pop it out (don't touch the little tabs that look like they need pulled back to get the cover off...Not necessary...You just need to give it a little poke with your finger and it will come out).
Now for the tricky but very easy once explained. You insert the spring back into the new TB just as it was in the old one...There is a hole at the bottom that the spring sits in and therby locks itself in. Slide the whole piece back over the unit and put your 5 screws back in. You were given a spring adjuster that you will now use. Just put the spring adjuster on the spring (remember you have the old cap still off) push down just a little to where you can feel that you can turn it and give it a gentle twist COUNTER clockwise about 1 turn. It will then try and return and lock itself in position. Once you do it you will see how easy it is. Just a matter of doing it. Finish tightening down the 5 bolts if you haven't done so already and then it's time to put back on the car. You only have the 2 bolts and 2 nuts to put back on... Most of these screws were held with BLUE locktite and I would advise to use the same. Slide your air intake back over the front of the TB and tighten. Your all done. It will take you longer to read the instructions than it actually does to install it. Hope this helps and gives others the confidence to do it yourself. In the next couple of days, my CaI/MAS should arrive and I will show the install of that....

Results: Obviously since you don't need a tune for this I didn't have it Dyno'd before hand but I want to say that you can DEFINITLY feel and hear a difference. Quicker throttle and you can feel more power. Below are more pictures of what to expect.

 

And the final shots of the install.

1. Front of new TB installed
2. Red tube Gasket.
3. Finished product.