Comparison of the GMS and C&L CAI's with detailed info...
11/7/06, 12:02 PM
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If you go to C&L's website, you will not only see that their '05 intakes have patents pending on them, but you will also notice that on the main page there are TWO U.S. patent numbers on their upper intake plenum listed. If you go back to my original post in this thread, you will find an image that shows a BLATANT copy of the C&L plenum (which IS PATENTED) that was released by Granatelli some time last year. The C&L plenum was released in 2003. These are facts I'm trying to show.
thanks, Doug.
thanks, Doug.
Thanks...Harley.
11/7/06, 12:04 PM
#342
That argument is hilarious to me. It's been stated over and over that you need a tuner for a lot more than just "more HP and torque".
CMD plates? Tuner.
O/R H? Tuner or MIL eliminators.
Gears? Tuner.
Tire size change? Tuner.
Drive by wire throttle lag? Tuner.
Octane switch? Tuner.
Get it yet? I'd say I spent twice as much but got about 10x as much. When you pay Doug $399 or whatever for the XCAL 2, you're getting a REQUIRED piece of hardware if you plan on ever making your Mustang perform well. You aren't paying $399 for "a tune". You're talking about wasting money yet you have a GMS t-body on your car. Pot. Kettle.
CMD plates? Tuner.
O/R H? Tuner or MIL eliminators.
Gears? Tuner.
Tire size change? Tuner.
Drive by wire throttle lag? Tuner.
Octane switch? Tuner.
Get it yet? I'd say I spent twice as much but got about 10x as much. When you pay Doug $399 or whatever for the XCAL 2, you're getting a REQUIRED piece of hardware if you plan on ever making your Mustang perform well. You aren't paying $399 for "a tune". You're talking about wasting money yet you have a GMS t-body on your car. Pot. Kettle.
11/7/06, 12:05 PM
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Hey Bill,
I'm not trying to sound winney just give you the right information, you asked if it was patented and it is.
Now, I'm also trying to defend myself against him too. He's trying to deface my company stating that I dont know how MAF's work.
thanks, Doug.
11/7/06, 12:06 PM
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if you take a poll of actual GMS CAI users, and how they feel about their product, I'm sure you would see that almost everyone (again, can't please everybody) would say that they are happy with the noticable performance gain.
Edit: AND......JR, please, what kind of material is your air filter supplier using? Is it safe? Does it filter at least as much contaminants as the factory, or better?
Edit: AND......JR, please, what kind of material is your air filter supplier using? Is it safe? Does it filter at least as much contaminants as the factory, or better?
The filter is safe and it filters down to 10 microns.
11/7/06, 12:13 PM
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JR: I think it would be helpful if you could briefly comment on your calibrated MAF sensor and your MAF wiring harness that comes with your CAI 410010 kit? It would be nice to hear from someone who understands the design, as opposed to those just guessing. Specifically, since it appears the MAF wiring harness is responsible for the proper communication to the ECM (for fuel table changes, and maintaining proper A/F mix ratios), what is the function of your MAF sensor and how does it differ from the stock sensor? Why are both needed? Thanks again for helping sort this out.
11/7/06, 12:18 PM
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11/7/06, 12:21 PM
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[quote=Granatelli;775739] I always answer the good and the bad.[/quote]
Now is your chance to show everyone what you're made of, and back up your words by addressing the following items. Or are you just blowing out more hot air?
Your claim that your CAI's ID is never less than 90mm.
Your claim that the C&L's CAI flows 10% less air than your CAI.
You printed a fake dyno graph for msully.
Now is your chance to show everyone what you're made of, and back up your words by addressing the following items. Or are you just blowing out more hot air?
Your claim that your CAI's ID is never less than 90mm.
Your claim that the C&L's CAI flows 10% less air than your CAI.
You printed a fake dyno graph for msully.
11/7/06, 12:21 PM
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My eyes hurt from reading 
I don't want this thread to turn into a mudslinging match. I remember reading a thread on another site where two exhaust manufacturers embarassed themselves in my eyes.
I believe the best thing to do for now is close this thread. It will be re-opened once the dyno numbers are available for further technical discussion
If anyone disagrees with me, kindly send a PM
I don't want this thread to turn into a mudslinging match. I remember reading a thread on another site where two exhaust manufacturers embarassed themselves in my eyes.
I believe the best thing to do for now is close this thread. It will be re-opened once the dyno numbers are available for further technical discussion
If anyone disagrees with me, kindly send a PM
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