planov8

Which one would be better, the K&N Filter or the MMR air induction system.
K&N -$44.00 increase HP ??
MMR- $199.00 increase HP??

Can someone fill in some blanks here.

Steve

SurfnSoCal

Ugh...someone correct me if I am wrong...but the K&N is just the Filter...where as the MMR is a CAI (or will be once they get the heat shield out). K&N is devloping a CAI. Wait for that.

Kluski

K&N also made an intake for previous years of mustangs. They were about $190. So far they are not made for the 2005.

But you can also include C&L intakes in your question.
http://forums.bradbarnett.net/index.php?sh...1706&hl=c&l

A preliminary guestimate says they run approximatley $350.

The point to note is the MMR intake seems to require a retune for an additional $350. So far, the C&L intake will not require a re-tune. No word yet on the K&N filter.

So your question should be revised

K&N intake ~$190 (heat shield?, possible retune - $350.00) = total $540
MMR intake ~$350 (w/ heat shield) plus retune $350 = total $700
C&L intake ~$350 (w/ heat shield, no need for re-tune) = total $350

If this is correct, I would lean towards the C&L.

SurfnSoCal

I agree with Chris. I have a C&L set-up on my 2000 V6. Love it. Definitly going with this on my 05 GT.

2005RedGT

umm, why don't you think the C&L doesn't need a re-tune? No matter what, if you change the MAF or flow of air, you need to get a retune.

If you don't get a retune for the C&L, then there is no need to get one for the MMR either with that logic.

-Bryan

swingle007

agreed Bryan....

sean102385

hey surfnsocal,where can i find that c&l cai for a 2001 mustang v6????

Kluski

I am new to the modification world. I was gathering what I have read so far. Accoring to the C&L thread, the research is saying that a retune is not necessary, that the HP gained will not deminish over time. It gets into much more technical jargan than I can understand (with all the fuel ratios and all).

So far I have not seen this out in the real world yet. But so far, the C&L intake states they can gain almost 17hp (if I remember right) without a tune for the same price as a MMR intake (~$350).

Again if this becomes reality, I would lean toward the C&L. Only time will tell I guess. And I have a lot more reading and learning to do before I actually do any modifications (and more money to save). I am anxious to see how all these modifications actually perform on other members cars before I make any decisions.

I have been following your mods. I have learned alot just be reading what you have done.

2005RedGT

From what I have seen so far on the 2 tunes I have had and the few I have witnessed is this :

1. Exahust changes have had no poisitive effect.

2. The computer will adjust for the larger MAF / or filter changes. BUT at a cost - it will to richen the A/F more than required. The 05 Stang is already very rich to begin with. You dont have to re-tune but you are missing out on the benefits of the exta flow. It will need to be leaned out.

At this point, I feel very comfortable in saying that any mods/changes we make, we will need to flash the computer. BUT we can sit in a holding pattern until we are ready to do it - we just wont get ALL of the benefits.

So far I feel the best investments I have made at the MMR Kit, the SCT flash, and the gears. The Magnapacks, while looking great and sounding great, are worthless in HP The $500+ for the exhaust could have been spent on other items
-Bryan

DozerzPony

....and MMR claims their CAI element is less restrictive than K&N, but retains the same filtration properties

Mine is enroute, and ordering the Xcalibrator this week.

adrenalin

I should receive my MMR kit today but have yet to find anywhere within 500 miles that can tune/dyno my car

swingle007

Hang in there adrenalin....A lot more speed shops will be offering the SCT tune before you know it...The MMR kit is a good one and from a company known for creating big hp drag cars....your decision was a good one...

DozerzPony

Don't forget to put some foam insulation around the radiator hose where the CAI rests over it.

dallasw77

I just got my car back from K&N. They will hopefully have the CAI kit out in Jan. THere is a definite HP increase but they couldn't tell me how much until the kit is released. I have a dyno of my stock set up and I can't get my other dyno sheets until the kit is released. I did find out that the kit is for the stock set up, so that means all the hp gains are with stock settings on the computer and with the hydrocarbon trap in it.

I will post a pic of my dyno sheet with my stock set up. Basically my car put 270rwhp with 570miles on it.

Ranger

For a guy like me who has not kept up=to-date the past 30 or so years on performance mods, etc, this forum is great. I have learned more from reading it than I could have gotten in magazines, etc. Since I have the "luxury" unfortunately of probably not having my car for another 2 or so months, waiting is my only option. I did read the C&L thread, and taking it at face value, appears that the unit will be one of the three on my list before a decision is made

ric_mart

I for one am going to wait for the C&L system all the while keeping an eye on this forum for anything that may change my mind. The flashing will have to wait until I get the CAI system installed.

Kluski

Wow, am I thinking right.

270rwhp / .83 = 325hp at the flywheel.

swingle007

Depends on if it was a dynojet or a Mustang dyno.....270 on the dynojet is about 252 on a Mustang dyno.....still good hp either way bone stock.....

adrenalin

Ya, I saw your guys previous posts regarding this and have already picked up the materials. Man, I really do like having this site. My wife and bank account hate it though.