2011 GT or 2008 GT500
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I seriously think I'd rather have a loaded 2011 V6 over that GT500...call me crazy.
I'm coming from a SN95, a base one at that, with cloth seats (had the leather wrapped wheel though). The 05-09 interior is, um, nicer, but it just seems like the same materials in a more square theme rather than round. The Premier trim option did help though. I think if I were to get a 05-09 I'd have the entire interior covered in leather/suede. And I'd have to go with the Chamois seats, I am SO tired of all Dark Charcoal interiors.
I'm coming from a SN95, a base one at that, with cloth seats (had the leather wrapped wheel though). The 05-09 interior is, um, nicer, but it just seems like the same materials in a more square theme rather than round. The Premier trim option did help though. I think if I were to get a 05-09 I'd have the entire interior covered in leather/suede. And I'd have to go with the Chamois seats, I am SO tired of all Dark Charcoal interiors.
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It won't handle as well as an '11 GT. It won't handle as well as a '10 GT. The track speaks for itself. '11 SVT GT500 might handle better, unproven.
This car goes faster, looks like a good deal really for a GT500. You'd get more than you would for the same money on a 2011 in all areas. Including mileage.
You'll eventually be able to wipple an '11 GT. Unproven also. You might get 600 HP. Still unproven. We could bust out the mods and then settle this in a quarter mile face-off like all muscle car wars end in, but that's just ridiculous.
In the end, in my book, it's still a used. And you've still got interiors to consider.
This car goes faster, looks like a good deal really for a GT500. You'd get more than you would for the same money on a 2011 in all areas. Including mileage.
You'll eventually be able to wipple an '11 GT. Unproven also. You might get 600 HP. Still unproven. We could bust out the mods and then settle this in a quarter mile face-off like all muscle car wars end in, but that's just ridiculous.
In the end, in my book, it's still a used. And you've still got interiors to consider.
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Whoops... you're 2 years behind the curve friend. Where'd the 2010 standard GT components come from?
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2010 Ford Mustang
"All of the Bullitt elements are the base foundation of the GT," said Randle, noting engine and chassis improvements.
Improvements inspired by the Bullitt program, for instance, are seen on the genuine polished-aluminum manual transmission **** and leather-wrapped shift ****, which support a short-throw, performance-based shifter originally launched on the feature car [Bullitt].
Taking a cue from the successful Mustang Bullitt and Ford Racing vehicles, many of those enhancements are carried through the full Mustang lineup.
The proven chassis from the Bullitt series serves as the base for the GT. A tower-to-tower brace pioneered on the Bullitt lends additional torsional and lateral stiffness to the chassis to improve cornering for those selecting the 19-inch tire.
http://www.muscularmustangs.com/2008...rd_mustang.php
Two years is a lifetime these days in the automotive world.
But I'll stick with my stock 08 Bullitt with is FRPP engine & handling improvements, shifter, its standard GT500 KR 3.73 trak-lock differential, GT500 seats & steering wheel (and its awesome unique exhaust note).
Because the '10 stock GT has the same 08 Bullitt components that I have. Hell you even have to pay extra on the '10 for the 3.73's and don't get the KR duty components.
Plus I don't have to compromise and own that ugly miscarriage of the 10/11 ***-end design.
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2010 Ford Mustang
"All of the Bullitt elements are the base foundation of the GT," said Randle, noting engine and chassis improvements.
Improvements inspired by the Bullitt program, for instance, are seen on the genuine polished-aluminum manual transmission **** and leather-wrapped shift ****, which support a short-throw, performance-based shifter originally launched on the feature car [Bullitt].
Taking a cue from the successful Mustang Bullitt and Ford Racing vehicles, many of those enhancements are carried through the full Mustang lineup.
The proven chassis from the Bullitt series serves as the base for the GT. A tower-to-tower brace pioneered on the Bullitt lends additional torsional and lateral stiffness to the chassis to improve cornering for those selecting the 19-inch tire.
http://www.muscularmustangs.com/2008...rd_mustang.php
Two years is a lifetime these days in the automotive world.
But I'll stick with my stock 08 Bullitt with is FRPP engine & handling improvements, shifter, its standard GT500 KR 3.73 trak-lock differential, GT500 seats & steering wheel (and its awesome unique exhaust note).
Because the '10 stock GT has the same 08 Bullitt components that I have. Hell you even have to pay extra on the '10 for the 3.73's and don't get the KR duty components.
Plus I don't have to compromise and own that ugly miscarriage of the 10/11 ***-end design.
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Well you shouldn't make such a blanket statement that all S197's suck at handling. 
The stock as a rock 08 Bullitt was the best of the non Shelby S197's. And aside from the stats, I know my two lane mountain courses.
The '10 S197D (diaper series) ain't nothing but a 'tweener' year and they gave it a few 08 Bullitt tweaks to move it out.
Naturally the '11 is a different handling animal because of the 5.0. But we'll see how it does on tight 2 laners. So far its still speculation.
The stock as a rock 08 Bullitt was the best of the non Shelby S197's. And aside from the stats, I know my two lane mountain courses.
The '10 S197D (diaper series) ain't nothing but a 'tweener' year and they gave it a few 08 Bullitt tweaks to move it out.
Naturally the '11 is a different handling animal because of the 5.0. But we'll see how it does on tight 2 laners. So far its still speculation.
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Thanks. Here's hopin'. It's good for Ford, and pretty much all the American automakers to put this forward, it's starting to fix their reputations elsewhere in the world. Let's just hope they keep it up.
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12/18 with the Auto and 14/19 with the manual (2010 numbers). Highly optimistic if you ask me! My 2005 averaged about 17 but could pull 26 on the highway.
They also make too big a deal out of a couple of tenths in the quarter mile. How many people who buy these cars ACTUALLY ever make it to the drag strip? AND know how to drive?
They also make too big a deal out of a couple of tenths in the quarter mile. How many people who buy these cars ACTUALLY ever make it to the drag strip? AND know how to drive?
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Well you shouldn't make such a blanket statement that all S197's suck at handling.
The stock as a rock 08 Bullitt was the best of the non Shelby S197's. And aside from the stats, I know my two lane mountain courses.
The '10 S197D (diaper series) ain't nothing but a 'tweener' year and they gave it a few 08 Bullitt tweaks to move it out.
Naturally the '11 is a different handling animal because of the 5.0. But we'll see how it does on tight 2 laners. So far its still speculation.
The stock as a rock 08 Bullitt was the best of the non Shelby S197's. And aside from the stats, I know my two lane mountain courses.
The '10 S197D (diaper series) ain't nothing but a 'tweener' year and they gave it a few 08 Bullitt tweaks to move it out.
Naturally the '11 is a different handling animal because of the 5.0. But we'll see how it does on tight 2 laners. So far its still speculation.
2008 Bullitt
.87G skidpad
26.4 sec @ .52G
2011 GT
.97G skidpad
24.7 sec @.77G
Now I know the tires on the Bullitt don't compare to the tires on the brembo equipped GT so that might have an impact on the #'s as well of course
.both great cars and I love the Bullitt, and watching the movie on Blu-Ray in the home theater room even more so
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I I am SO tired of all Dark Charcoal interiors.[/QUOTE]
you and me both. black leather interior is EVERYWHERE. which is why i have not bought a car yet. i want find a used gt vert manual....but they are very rare without black interior.
I I am SO tired of all Dark Charcoal interiors.[/QUOTE]
you and me both. black leather interior is EVERYWHERE. which is why i have not bought a car yet. i want find a used gt vert manual....but they are very rare without black interior.
I don't do trannies
or rear-ends anymore!
or rear-ends anymore!
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FWIW I would recommend the GT. And welcome! The reasoning behind it is simple, trust me when I say you don't want your dream car to also be your daily driver. Things are going to happen to it that will make you tear up. Enjoy your GT with the creature comforts now and buy a gently used Shelby as a second vehicle in a few years when the prices come down just like the SVT Cobras have
Hope this helps, good luck hunting!
Hope this helps, good luck hunting!
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I don't see a problem with having your "dream car" as your daily driver. Your version of "dream car" might not necessarily be MY dream car. For me, a dream car would pretty much be a nice 400ish V8 Mustang with nice interior, manual transmission, great brakes, great handling and a custom, but stealthy sound system; a car that I can drive every day, mod to my own specs and looks, then take to the local Goodguys Show, autocross/mountain road/local drag strip. Basically a do everything car that I can enjoy ANY where.
Now, don't get me wrong, I'd love to have a few other "dream cars", like a show-queen 68 GT500KR, a full-blown 92 LX Notch that would tear up the street and strip, and maybe an exotic for going out on the weekends.
But mainly, my real dream car at this point in my life is a plain old Mustang V8, done up the way I want it, that I can drive every day, race and show.
Now, don't get me wrong, I'd love to have a few other "dream cars", like a show-queen 68 GT500KR, a full-blown 92 LX Notch that would tear up the street and strip, and maybe an exotic for going out on the weekends.
But mainly, my real dream car at this point in my life is a plain old Mustang V8, done up the way I want it, that I can drive every day, race and show.
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Well, it is all about your dream car. If you don't get the GT500 when you have the chance you may always regret it. Then after a year or two if you are still happy with it then that's great. If, on the other hand, you grow disenchanted with it, then go get a GT.
Sure I'd like to say I have a GT500 but:
I don't like the 05 - 09 as much as the '10 - '11
I don't fit in the 05 - 09 as well as the '10 - '11
I think the GT500 has a rougher ride
I would never use that much power
I don't like the front end that much up close
My signature car is in production. A new GT500 would cost me >$15K more, and though I could afford it, to me it still isn't worth it. (Yes I know the OP did not ask about an '11 GT500). For my purposes, I will have more comfort and still more power than I will ever need. And MOST cars, as a general rule, will depreciate by 40-50% in 3-4 years. Twenty years from now, they will probably both be worth less than $8000, and that's likely how long I will have mine.
Sure I'd like to say I have a GT500 but:
I don't like the 05 - 09 as much as the '10 - '11
I don't fit in the 05 - 09 as well as the '10 - '11
I think the GT500 has a rougher ride
I would never use that much power
I don't like the front end that much up close
My signature car is in production. A new GT500 would cost me >$15K more, and though I could afford it, to me it still isn't worth it. (Yes I know the OP did not ask about an '11 GT500). For my purposes, I will have more comfort and still more power than I will ever need. And MOST cars, as a general rule, will depreciate by 40-50% in 3-4 years. Twenty years from now, they will probably both be worth less than $8000, and that's likely how long I will have mine.
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Even too many gears can be a negative on some mixes of (tight curve-straightaway-next curve) roads. Yes I just said that.
We'll see when they hit the streets.
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If you are going to finance it, you are better off buying the new 2011 GT. The interest rates on used cars are extremely high. May be better off buying a new 2010 or 2011 GT500 if you want to pay that kind of money.
But, GT500's are special and will always get looks, where a GT will wear off after a while.
But, GT500's are special and will always get looks, where a GT will wear off after a while.
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In fact, Pentagon Federal CU and Navy Federal CU are charging 3.99% for either new or used, 60 months. At PFCU, it goes up to 8.99% if you go to 72 months vs 4.75% for new. OUCH!
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That's a big thing. Not just "looks". I see 20 Mustang GT's on the way to work each day. I would see a GT500 other than mine every few weeks at most. No matter how good the GT gets, modded or not, it will always be "just a GT".