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Old May 4, 2010 | 06:45 PM
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If I was worried about wieght I would buy a lotus and have a go kart.
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Old May 4, 2010 | 06:49 PM
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I would drive less if I had a special mustang like a gt500 or roush or a bullitt. I drive my mustang year round almost and it has to handle snow and me not carrying to much about door dings or curbs.
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Old May 4, 2010 | 06:49 PM
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They're just cars. Drive them till they blow up.
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Old May 4, 2010 | 06:57 PM
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Back to the original question/discusion: Like CDYNACO reminded you; the answer is that the GT500 is your dream. Go with the dream or you may always regret it. If, after a year or two, you still love it, then GREAT! But if it doesn't quite live up to your expectations, then go with a GT later.

I would like a GT500 just to say I have one but in reality I don't care for the 05-09 look, or the front of the GT500 in particular up close, I cannot fit in it comfortably, I would think it much rougher to ride in all day, and I have no need for the power.

At this point my signature car is in production, an '11 GT500 would cost me >$15K more, and I'll probably never use all the power it has.

Just another opinion.
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Old May 4, 2010 | 07:01 PM
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Buy the gt500 and own it for a year and when they have great year end rebates on the 2011s trade it in.





Originally Posted by eci
They're just cars. Drive them till they blow up.
agreed!

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Old May 4, 2010 | 07:02 PM
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I will now randomly intervene with my useless personal opinion. Personally I prefer naturally aspirated engines, as the whine of a supercharger I think would annoy me in time. While I like speed and power, handling is also high on the list, as this is a land of many turns with some twisty mountain roads nearby and a 2010/11 GT is probably going to handle that better than a GT500. Finally I need some practicality as I really can't get two cars, due to space and also due to cost. GT500 plus a daily driver? That's a definite pain in the wallet.

GT500 may still technically be a pony car since it's a Mustang, but it's made more with a muscle car philosophy. Straight line is where it is meant to be, and all else is secondary. A standard GT has other areas of concern, and doesn't have a Supercharger. I like it that way.

I'm personally hoping Car and Driver will run their Lightning Lap again this year and this time with the entire Mustang lineup.

As for the V6, having actually owned a V6 for six years I can tell you how 90% of the conversations I've had pertaining to it go:

"What do you drive?"
"A Mustang."
"Really? GT? Mach 1?"
"... V6."
It's at this point that the light in their eyes goes away and they inevitably and invariably say this:
"Oh. That's not a real Mustang."

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Old May 4, 2010 | 07:03 PM
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Lancel SVT is about balance, all else is NOT secondary. Wanna guess which car handles better? GT or SVT PP GT500? Sure, you can mod the GT. You can mod anything.

The whine is ADDICTIVE btw. Most want more whine.

Wait till you see the 11 GT500 review =)

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Old May 4, 2010 | 07:05 PM
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all this drama. im going to go buy a camaro. its much cooler anyway
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Old May 4, 2010 | 07:06 PM
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Just get the Genesis Coupe
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Old May 4, 2010 | 07:07 PM
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and then gert a huge coffe can exhaust that makes it sound like a car that has a exhaust leak?
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Old May 4, 2010 | 07:08 PM
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SHO taurus are great cars in the price range you are looking and would make a great daily in all seasons.
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Old May 4, 2010 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by eci
Lancel SVT is about balance, all else is NOT secondary. Wanna guess which car handles better? GT or SVT PP GT500? Sure, you can mod the GT. You can mod anything.

The whine is ADDICTIVE btw. Most want more whine.

Wait till you see the 11 GT500 review =)
I can see that, but eh, we'll see what they have to say about its effectiveness. The 2010 GT500 wasn't that impressive handling wise, but the SVT has potential to correct this. I just hope the 2011 will be able to keep an M3 from shaming it. :P
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Old May 4, 2010 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Lancel
The 2010 GT500 wasn't that impressive handling wise, but the SVT has potential to correct this. I just hope the 2011 will be able to keep an M3 from shaming it. :P
I personally don't think the 11 GT500 will..I mean they have reduced the weight by around 100lbs or so on the front but only time will tell; hopefully some reviews come out soon on the 11 GT500. I am dying to see the performance. It will also depend on what type of road coarse they are running on...

They are both great cars and a tough choice for sure. I am glad that I have until the end of the year to finally decide if its an 11 GT or 10/11GT500.
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Old May 4, 2010 | 08:08 PM
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Here comes some house cleaning.....

Thread and users...
Dang I go out to have a tennis lesson for a couple hours and come back to all this bickering....

Reminds me of the bantering that went on 1.5-2yrs ago with the same certain party on SVTP......funny how somethings never change.
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Old May 4, 2010 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Lancel
I can see that, but eh, we'll see what they have to say about its effectiveness. The 2010 GT500 wasn't that impressive handling wise, but the SVT has potential to correct this. I just hope the 2011 will be able to keep an M3 from shaming it. :P
Originally Posted by MotorTrend
At Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca for some hot laps, more surprises: The first is that despite the rock hard rubber, the GT500 is a sensational track car. Like the Mustang GT with the TrackPack, it has terrific steering and hyper-aggressive turn-in response. It feels light and agile, and with a ton of power on tap from the supercharged 5.4-liter V-8 pretty much from idle, it's easily steered on the throttle. The Shelby telegraphs its punches well in advance, and the transitions are smooth and predictable.
You weren't impressed? The above is a very good description. Have you driven one? It outhandles my old 07 GT which had the FRPP handling pack on it.

How many people commenting on GT500 have ever even driven one?

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Old May 4, 2010 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by CarAndDriver
Having the lesser Mustang GT on hand was not a good thing for the Shelby GT500. Although substantially more buttoned down, with far less pitch and roll after its 2010 overhaul, the GT500 still feels rather obstinate about working out on a track.
Nope. Have you driven a 2011 GT? Maybe I was a bit too unspecific there. The reviews (aside from Motor Trend, who seem to have a weird spread of opinions on just about everything) and the numbers I've read are what I don't find impressive. Well, good for a Mustang (since every Mustang before 2010 had handling that was literally a joke), but not exactly a Porsche either. It seems though that a 2010 GT with the Track Pack handles as well as a GT500, only with better balance and less weight. Not too surprising when you consider they put the GT500 suspension on a lighter and better balanced car, so I guess consider that a testament to the GT500.

Actually, if the 2010 inherited the GT500's suspension for the Track Pack, and the 2011 inherited the Track Pack standard that would pretty much mean... both cars probably have nearly exactly the same suspension. On the same chassis. And we're arguing about which one handles better. If I follow that right then yeah, I really don't know what we're arguing about anymore.

As for door dings, do what I do! Park in the back! Walking is good for you!
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Old May 4, 2010 | 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Lancel
As for the V6, having actually owned a V6 for six years I can tell you how 90% of the conversations I've had pertaining to it go:

"What do you drive?"
"A Mustang."
"Really? GT? Mach 1?"
"... V6."
It's at this point that the light in their eyes goes away and they inevitably and invariably say this:
"Oh. That's not a real Mustang."

I know those convos. They don't get any easier, especially if your V6 is pretty much stock. I wouldn't mind saying "ummm a twin turbo V6 with 600whp biatch!"
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Old May 4, 2010 | 11:27 PM
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SVT PP GT500 for 11' > GT handling. That's the argument. Also, the 11 GT doesn't have the suspension of the base GT500. Some of it, yes. The 2010 Track Pack also does not have the 2010 GT500 suspension. Some of it, yes. Please research the suspension of each car.

Track Pack:

revised front and rear stabilizer bars, upper strut mounts, and rear, lower control arms from the '09 Shelby Mustang. Coil springs are the same as on the base GT, but the struts and shocks are cut from a clean sheet
Springs and shocks/struts are an enormous part of the suspension. The 2010 TP and base 11 GT do not have the Shelby suspension, even the base. The Shelby has a better setup.

Just came across this car:

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv...723335042.html

$34k for a 550rwhp car with 10k miles. Traction mods already done. No brainer between this and a much slower 11' GT.

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Old May 4, 2010 | 11:34 PM
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(since every Mustang before 2010 had handling that was literally a joke)
Whoops... you're 2 years behind the curve friend. Where'd the 2010 standard GT components come from?

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2010 Ford Mustang
"All of the Bullitt elements are the base foundation of the GT," said Randle, noting engine and chassis improvements.
Improvements inspired by the Bullitt program, for instance, are seen on the genuine polished-aluminum manual transmission **** and leather-wrapped shift ****, which support a short-throw, performance-based shifter originally launched on the feature car [Bullitt].
Taking a cue from the successful Mustang Bullitt and Ford Racing vehicles, many of those enhancements are carried through the full Mustang lineup.
The proven chassis from the Bullitt series serves as the base for the GT. A tower-to-tower brace pioneered on the Bullitt lends additional torsional and lateral stiffness to the chassis to improve cornering for those selecting the 19-inch tire.

http://www.muscularmustangs.com/2008...rd_mustang.php


Two years is a lifetime these days in the automotive world.

But I'll stick with my stock 08 Bullitt with is FRPP engine & handling improvements, shifter, its standard GT500 KR 3.73 trak-lock differential, GT500 seats & steering wheel (and its awesome unique exhaust note).

Because the '10 stock GT has the same 08 Bullitt components that I have. Hell you even have to pay extra on the '10 for the 3.73's and don't get the KR duty components.

Plus I don't have to compromise and own that ugly miscarriage of the 10/11 ***-end design.

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Old May 4, 2010 | 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by eci
SVT PP GT500 for 11' > GT handling. That's the argument. Also, the 11 GT doesn't have the suspension of the base GT500. Some of it, yes. The 2010 Track Pack also does not have the 2010 GT500 suspension. Some of it, yes. Please research the suspension of each car.

Track Pack:



Springs and shocks/struts are an enormous part of the suspension. The 2010 TP and base 11 GT do not have the Shelby suspension, even the base. The Shelby has a better setup.

Just came across this car:

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv...723335042.html

$34k for a 550rwhp car with 10k miles. Traction mods already done. No brainer between this and a much slower 11' GT.
Eh I would love it, but I hate the 05-09 interior, and you know it sucks. I wouldn't care about not having a warranty, but most people here would. And the insurance for some people may make a big difference.
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