Ah, that is what we love about you Hollywood, you never let reality get in the way of your arguments.

Show me one example where Obama has demonstrated that he can be effective in an executive role. (student body president, head of the school newspaper, etc....don't qualify) I know, I'll be waiting a while.
Hmmmm, lets see. McCain was a distinguished Naval officer who placed his own life in grave peril at least twice in order to 'take care' of his men. He was a pow for more than six years at the Hilton where he demonstrated one of those acts of heroism, refusing to leave his men behind after being offered freedom when the NVA discovered his father was Admiral McCain. Senator McCain retired from the Navy a Captain following a very successful military career and only after having been offered the rank of Rear Admiral.

McCain then served two terms in the house and is now serving his fourth term in the Senate. McCain also chaired the Senate Commerce Committee for a time.

If you can name a Presidential candidate since Ike with better overall qualifications as it relates to defense or foreign policy be sure and let me know.

 

You know what they say about ignorance.

And you are blissful today, aren't you?



OK. Prepare to be educated.

Facts about Obama >>

Education:

BA in political science (with a specialization in international relations) from Columbia University.

JD Graduate of Harvard Law School (Juris Doctor degree, magna *** laude).

President of the Harvard Law Review (the first ever African American).


Experience:

Civil rights attorney (turned down a prestigious judicial clerkship)

Constitutional law professor.

Community organizer.

State Senator.

Chairman of the Illinois State Senate Health and Human Services Committee.

US Senator.

Member of the US Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Environment and Public Works Committee, and Veterans' Affairs Committee.

Author.

Husband and father of two daughters.

Board member of the Joyce Foundation, the Woods Fund of Chicago, and the Chicago Annenberg Challenge.


Honors:

Grammy award winner (Spoken Word category).

Honored by the National Academy of Recording Arts & Sciences (for narration of one of his books).

Honorary doctor of laws degree from the University of Massachusetts Boston (for among other things, "advancing and protecting the interests of the less fortunate"2)


Seems rather experienced to me...


Oh, dear, somebody who swallows all McCain's 'Double Talk Express' propaganda.

Here's a few reasons why McCain shouldn't be president >>

He will continue President Bush's belligerent foreign policy which led to the unjustified and unending Iraq War that has killed more than 4,000 U.S. military personnel and 100,000 Iraqi civilians, decimated the armed forces and added mega-billions to the national debt.

McCain has endorsed the failed Bush economic policies that are destroying the middleclass, causing jobs to go overseas, pushing homeowners into foreclosure and endangering the future of our offspring for decades to come.

McCain is America's "Number One Neocon" with direct ties to Bill Kristol's rightwing extremist oganization, Project for a New American Century (PNAC), which promoted regime change in Iraq before 9/11 and wants to dominate the world with U.S. military power.

During the 2008 presidental campaign, McCain showed he lacked the necessary integrity to be commander-in-chief by flip-flopping on major issues -- such as torture, off-shore drilling and the 2001 Bush tax cuts that favored America's wealthiest citizens.

He promised in February not run a negative campaign. Then, five months later, rather than discuss important issues like high energy prices and rising unemployment, McCain's advisors unleashed a scurrilous, Karl Rove-inspired attack on Barack Obama's character, such as calling him "arrogant" -- a substitute for "uppity" with racial overtones. Never mind that arrogance is a quintessential quality of anyone seeking to become the most powerful leader on Earth, including Senator McCain.

McCain distorted his "heroic" POW record and exploited it for political gain (I go into MUCH more detail about this below).

Finally, if McCain wins in November, the neocons in Washington will increase their power, Bush's incompetent cronies will remain in office, America will become more divided, you will never know how many White House crimes were committed over the past eight years, and U.S. armed forces will likely attack Iran. America deserves a better future than that.

And another thing: Obama didn’t ditch his first wife so he could marry into money with a second and further his political career like his opponent John McCain.

Or how 'bout this? Remember that little "gaf" when McCain told a Pittsburgh television station that he recited the names of the Pittsburgh Steelers defensive line while under interrogation in North Vietnam? The problem with that little anecdote, is that every other time McCain has told that story, he's named the Green Bay Packers instead. Grandpa having a memory lapse; a lie (after all, the truth is the easiest thing to remember, if indeed it was the truth); or blatant pandering?

Back to McCain's war service now. Yes, he was a former Naval aviator who, after crashing his 5th plane, was held for 5½ years in a North Vietnamese prison.

Let’s start with the fact that his father and grandfather were four-star admirals, so maybe John had some preferential treatment by the Naval department. Despite having graduated in the bottom one percent of his Annapolis class, John McCain was offered, almost magically, the chance to become a coveted aircraft carrier pilot. He graduated in the bottom of his class yet he was offered a top spot which was unheard of even to this day, that is unless your daddy and grandfather are four star admirals.

Even after he got to flight school his record was abysmal. Even the Navy could only go so far with their favoritism - thus he was given the low end Douglas A-4 Skyhawk to fly. The Navy was not about to entrust him with one of the newer Phantoms or Crusaders; I mean this academically challenged officer couldn't be entrusted not to crash the more advanced aircraft.

No fighter squadrons for McCain. It turns out Lieut. Commander John McCain played more of a role in triggering the fire and explosions aboard the carrier, USS Forrestal, on July 19, 1967 in the Gulf of Tonkin, than has been commonly reported. Here's a few facts from that fateful day, dude:

Surviving crewmen and those who investigated the Forrestal fire case reported that McCain deliberately "wet-started" his A-4E Skyhawk to shake up the guy in the F-4 Phantom behind his A-4.

"Wet-starts", done either deliberately (the starter motor switch allowed kerosene to pool in the engine and give a wet start) or accidentally, shoot a large flame from the tail of the aircraft. In McCain’s case, the "wet-start" "cooked off" and launched the M34 Zuni rocket from the rear F-4 that punctured the Skyhawk’s fuel tank, knocked the M-65 1000 lb. bomb off it’s 500 lb. rated mount, and touched off the explosions and massive fire.

The F-4 pilot was reportedly killed in the conflagration, along with 167 of his fellow Forrestal shipmates (including those who died later from wounds suffered).

"Wet starting" was a common practice among young "hot-dog" pilots. McCain was quickly (they were still counting the Forrestal dead) transferred to the USS Oriskany (the only Forrestal crewman to be immediately transferred).

Yet John McCain has the unmitigated gall into question Barack Obama’s lack of military experience? Lets face it, the Navy would have been better off if John McCain had never served and alot of sailors might still be alive today. Yes he was injured after crashing another plane and did serve 5½ years in a North Vietnamese prison, however because of his name his captors treated him with kid gloves because of his political connections back home in the United States.


I could go on and on and on and on and on and on about why McCain isn't fit to be president, but I'm sure you would simply ignore the facts; having clearly made up your own rigid and polarized mind already.

 

Accomplishments:

 

 

Don't laugh. That guy's probably allowed to vote.

 

Girl

And I know... It's sad...

But I can't help laughing.

 

God, it is a girl, too!

I never got past the "I liv in Goergiah an Ruskies is suposed to be bawming us so do you think were all going to dye cuz maybe im to stoopid to live?" part.

 

Be careful where you get the "facts".
McCain's plane was not even pointed near the F4.
He was in the plane next to the explosion and escaped.
This might help clear it up.
Look at min. 2:30 and on in this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iK7RG...eature=related
This vid has the layout of the planes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxGV-...eature=related
A little more:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MVXR...eature=related
I'm not saying all your statements are untrue, just check ALL your facts.

 

Facts?!?! This is politics. People base choices on their emotions, NOT facts.

Since when did politics have ANYTHING to do with facts?

 

It matters little how many distorted accolades or outside influence Obama receives, his main obstacle is he cannot change or erase his roots or past not with as much information that is beginning to surface even if most of the media has decided to ignore and conceal it. But what he cannot conceal is the failure of any accomplishment on either of his two elected positions otherwise he would be bragging about them.

His message as his life is full of generalities with little emphasis on specifics. That is why he relies on semantics and picturing ideals just like a good socialist.

 

Ah, beaten to the punch. It's a shame that the liberals living in Western society today will go to no end, including outright smear tactics regarding what is by all reputable accounts a noble service record, in an attempt to 'support their side'. Pathetically enough the folks who conjured the above lie regarding the Forrestal fire didn't even make the effort to do a good job of it. Even if the tiny A4 Skyhawk McCain piloted had undergone a 'wet start' the F4 Phantom's Zuni rocket pod wouldn't have been affected by the same unless it were in ridiculously close proximity to the A4's exhaust for a relatively long period of time....and even the most basic understanding of Carrier deck operations would serve to inform that this just isn't a scenario that could have happened in the manner depicted without a total break down in deck operations culture and procedure. In other words, it's total horse-****.

Initially I wasn't certain how to reply, primarily because I never actually expected this argument to degrade to such a level. The very existence of this story is an insult to all the men who died on that carrier that day, and to perpetuate it for petty means only serves to accomplish the same. The sailors of the Forrestal deserve better.

 

Really?

Besides being a guest speaker and lecturer, which courses did he teach during his tenure as a Constitutional law professor?

As the President of the Harvard Law Review and as an "Author", he must have written an abundant variety of articles directly related to the profession of law. Do you happen to know many were published?

I have not had luck in finding specific answers to those specific questions. Perhaps you can shed some light on those specific subjects.

 

I really don't know what we are arguing about here Hollywood.

While I'm not as down on the administration as you are, I would agree with every other comment in your post above.

I agree that Putin is ex-KGB, in fact once KGB always KGB. Can't you even agree with McCain that while George Bush looked into McCain's eyes and saw a man he could trust, John McCain said he looked into Putin's eyes and saw K.G.B. Well I guess from your point of view McCain should think that but never say that because it hurts geo-political relations between Russia and America.

Russians do only respect strength. That is only reason they respected us before. I'll bet they respect the fact we're placing a defense sheild in Poland. So now they're pointing missiles at Europe. Do you really believe they weren't pointed there for the last 14 years? That's like trying to say we don't have missiles pointed at China and Russia right now.

Of course I also don't believe Cold War is completely over. Russians are a people of pride if nothing else, and are tired of appearing to take it on the chin in every regard to America. The only friendship America and Russia could ever have would be against militant radical Islam, but to this point Russia is content to sell the arms and technology. Even though they are far closer, and far more at risk, they are strapped for cash and willing to take the money now and hope that the enemy of their enemy is their friend. (Russia's enemy America, America's enemy radical Islam, ergo Russia is friends with Iran)

Bush's policy on this was lacking, but he was hamstrung. He was slow to expose his queen per se in sending Rice to France in this global chess game, but that comes from the conservative how-to chess playbook. I shutter to think what Obama's response would be in office. Of course he did call for the cease fire, and the Russian's must have obliged with Obama's request and not Sarkozy's. Obama would have to wait for it to appear on his teleprompter before he could decide what he should do.

 

VERY well stated!

 

Are you trying to insinuate that McCain has been "swiftboated" with scurrilous accusations? Surely no one would ever stoop to such tactics.

The point is your precious "war hero" isn't "all the man" you think he is.

 

Listed as >>

'Constitutional Law III: Equal Protection and Substantive Due Process'
'Current Issues in Racism & the Law'
'Voting Rights & the Democratic Process'

Harvard Law Review presidents don't write articles, per se, so much as set the tenor for the periodical. You can learn more about his contributions here.

He authored two books: "Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance", and "The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream".

Done.

 

Thanks Robert.

I conclude by your findings Obama's writings were limited to his two biographies and there were no other posted opinions or journals.

 

There may well be, but not that are easily found on the web.

As I mentioned, being president of a periodical is a bit like being the editor of a magazine - you tend to spend your days setting the content direction for the medium and editing others' writing, leaving you little time to write stuff yourself.

 

Wow, you really don't have any shame as you certainly don't regret posting that unfounded bunk given your response. You owe the sailors and families of the Forrestal, living and dead, an apology at the very least. Of course I don't expect one, for reasons which are obvious to everybody here.

 

Actually you shouldn't replace anything with an *. Just let the filter take over. If you replace letters with an * then you are infact trying to bypass the language filters which is a no-no.