Don't send 'em to Hawaii for vacation, send 'em to the North Pole. Hawaii is worth keeping.

 

Hey Gordo Campbell like to go there and whoop it up at least wait untill hes there.

 

Looks like I spoke too soon - the show's not over by a long shot: the Russians haven't stopped their advance towards Tbilisi, ceasefire or no.

The Russian foreign minister basically told the Bush administration to ****** and butt out. He told the U.S.: "choose us or Georgia."

Understand this well: Putin is an autocrat who lamented the fall of the old Soviet Union, and wants to rebuild the old Russian empire. His message: "We're back, and we're asserting our dominance in this region, so look out!"

Putin knows the United States is weak right now and bogged down in an unpopular war. He saw this incident in Georgia as the perfect opportunity to assert Russian power.

 

 

As I stated before, I understand your feelings toward the US... (Where do you live BTW, Wisconsin or Serbia?) ... but if you agree that Russia's actions are inappropriate and should not be tolerated, who should/is going to step up and challenge them? It's easy to say what shouldn't be done, but it's more difficult to say what should be done. So, I'm curious what your thoughts are.

 

Russian Military.

Nevermind... Pics wouldn't take

But here is a description.

One troop riding 3 wheeled (retarded) bicycle pulling another in a wagon with a rifle pointed behind them.

 

My opinion is that Bush has plenty of problems here in the USA, like the highest inflation in the past 17 years. So he should focus on that instead of trying to play a good guy somewhere else. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080814/..._ec_fi/economy I personally don't think he's really interested in Georgia, I'm pretty sure he can't even identify Georgia on the world's map. He's just looking for a reason to disagree with Russia. Same thing could be said about Russia too when the NATO was bombing Serbia. Russia couldn't care less about that, they were just looking for a reason to argue with the USA.
NATO has plenty of European nations who are just as strong (France, UK, Germany ...) to respond to Russia and I think they're more in danger than the USA is when it comes to Russia-Georgia war. So Bush should let them handle the situation and the USA should get involved only and only if its really necessary (which is not, at least not now).
My feelings toward the USA are not negative at all. I don't agree with the politics, but I don't hate the USA or anything like that. After all, I do live here and you'll be surprised how many times I got into arguments with my Serbian friends because of me supporting the USA.

 

I seriously doubt that Bush has nothing better to do than look for a reason to disagree with Russia.

Regardless though the problem in this world is that everyone turns a blind eye to things like this....it happened in WWII and look how that escalated bringing in one country after the other....they thought Hitler would stop and nobody should intervene....look where that got the world?

The U.S. is the country that takes all the crap and is forced to unfortunately "police" the rest of the world....maybe because we have the strongest military but primarily because nobody else seems to have the stones to do it! currently but if nobody stands up to some of these people then it just gets worse. I hate to see the U.S. get involved everywhere around the world but the results are obvious if things like this are ignored...history proves that....and if we don't learn from our history then we are destined to repeat it.

 

Actually it makes a lot of sense. The USA is #1 super-power in the world and they're threatened if they feel that somebody else might become just as good or that somebody is doing things behind their backs which is what Russia is doing right now. Russia has become stronger in the past 15 years or so and the USA sees it at a threat.
But be careful what you're (the USA) doing. The last time the USA tried to fight the Russia they created Al-Qaeda ... and we all know how well that worked.

 

Ummmm..

Russians invade Afghanistan...... Afghanistan develops mujahadeen to fight Russians.

As such it's Russia who can be tied to the Rise of Militant activity and Al-Qaeda.

USA gets left holding bag, Russia laughs it's *** off.

Anyone who thinks Russia is our friend or ally is simply ignorant. Putin is running the show here, Medvedyev is there simply to keep the seat warm.

Putin is KGB. (notice how I dont put Ex-KGB) KGB has always been around and will always be around.
Putin is old school...and evidently has a big set of brass *****.
Putin thinks Bush is a pansy, and he knows this and takes advantage that Bush will be out of a job shortly.

 

... with the help of the USA. Don't forget that part.

 

I think it is reading more into it than it really is. The USA is the #1 super power...true but I think that thinking there is a conspiracy that makes us want to pick a fight with Russia falls under the "Black helicopters & Tin foil hats" kind of mentality. Between Iraq, Afghanistan, the economy, elections, Iran, and COUNTLESS other issues around the world I really don't think that people are sitting in Washington going "Hey, how can we pick and arguement with Russia today?". Besides...our politicians are too busy fighting each other to bother with that kind of mentality right now.

 

The situation is messed, and as more people get involved it gets worse.

US is between a rock and a hard place...they look like they don't give a *** if they do nothing, (saying they'd back Georigia) and they get flack if they do something. (which they really won't because they have interest in keeping the peace with Russia)

Georgia goes and does something stupid to push Russia's buttons, Russia comes in, Georigia gets stepped on (like what ELSE would happen...)

The media makes it sound like Russia is all at fault when both sides are doing stupid moves they both need to stop.
But really, in the situation right now, all it takes is one person on either side to violate the cease fire and start **** up again.

 

One troop riding 3 wheeled (retarded) bicycle pulling another in a wagon with a rifle pointed behind them.
x 1 million. That's the problem.

If there's one thing the U.S. should have learned from Vietnam and Iraq, it's that sophisticated military hardware by itself doesn't win wars. You need boots on the ground. And Russia has America beat to *** on this score.

 

Two words.

Stealth Aircraft.

Game over, thank you come again.

 

Again, utterly worthless without boots on the ground once the bombing is done.

If technology were the be all and end all, America wouldn't still be bogged down in Iraq right now. End of story.

 

Actually, what America needed to learn is that, if you are fighting an opponent who feels like they have nothing to lose and the conflict ends up as a war of attrition, then you had better be willing to accept casualties. It's unfortunate but it is the truth. We didn't lose Vietnam, we turned that conflict into a popularity contest and gave up when everybody didn't fawn over us. The truth is that we were kicking North Vietnam's candy *** even when the media and popular opinion said we weren't, for example the Tet Offensive most folks consider the turning point of the war was actually disastrous for North Vietnam strategically speaking, and should in fact have been the beginning of the end. Despite fighting a ridiculously limited war we beat the North Vietnamese handily in every tangible measure with the truth being that we ultimately decided the cost incurred wasn't worth the end result......we didn't lose so much as we just gave up.

Now we are doing the same in Iraq. Once the war itself was actually won, and the actual 'war 'portion of this conflict was over long ago, the occupation began. And the truth is that a war fought with the intent of regime/power change will almost always end up in a long, expensive, and relatively bloody occupation. Somehow we once again forgot that this is the way of things and now many are intent on turning Iraq into a popularity contest when, in reality, it's really just a very long and painful waiting game.

 

 

The net difference being the same thing.

An indeterminately "long and painful waiting game" with an uncertain outcome and no clear goals or definition of victory that is shared by all protagonists.

Or as Colin Powell said: "You break it, you buy it."

 

But what about the poor little polar bears?