Midwest TMS'ers General Communication Thread
4/22/08, 02:59 PM
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you may have sensor fouled with all that under coating you have caked on the bottom side of your Stang...Wouldn't be surprised. I just had it re-done a couple of weeks ago and gave them some up front pointers this time. Told them that the exhaust was 304 SS and won't rust, the wheels and driveshaft are aluminum and they won't rust. And explained the issue I found with the stock wheel being out of balance because of them and their overspray. I told them they weren't painting the underside of a bridge you know.
So keep it off all rotating and hot components this time. Probably shot some in my gas tank to show that old bastard you know.
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4/22/08, 04:38 PM
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Wouldn't be surprised. I just had it re-done a couple of weeks ago and gave them some up front pointers this time. Told them that the exhaust was 304 SS and won't rust, the wheels and driveshaft are aluminum and they won't rust. And explained the issue I found with the stock wheel being out of balance because of them and their overspray. I told them they weren't painting the underside of a bridge you know. So keep it off all rotating and hot components this time. Probably shot some in my gas tank to show that bastard you know.
So keep it off all rotating and hot components this time. Probably shot some in my gas tank to show that bastard you know.
I smell that....
4/22/08, 06:48 PM
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Hey Scotty... I still have your address from that little present you sent me a few weeks back.
Maybe I will just send you something personal to get a big whiff from.
4/22/08, 06:53 PM
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Well I got home and put the tuner on the car to read the DTC codes and to my surprise it has nothing to do with the O2 sensors and longtubes as I suspected. The code was P0456 (EVAP LEAK MONITOR) small leak detected. I did a little searching on the code and the first thing they say to check is the gas cap. Mine looks in good shape and was tight. I looked up the hood for a vaccum line cut, melted, etc. Nothing. So I cleared the code and we will see if it comes back. Any other ideas other than the gas cap on what can cause this code to so up?
Scott
P.S. STD your avatar change at the moment is much better. :-) But if I know you it won't last until morning.
Scott
P.S. STD your avatar change at the moment is much better. :-) But if I know you it won't last until morning.
4/22/08, 07:02 PM
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4/22/08, 07:03 PM
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4/22/08, 07:12 PM
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On a serious note, clear the codes and see if they come back. If they do you may need to find someone with a smoke machine, or take it into a shop.
4/22/08, 07:16 PM
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I accually read about this procedure on Google tonight. I cleared the code and will drive her tommorow an see if it comes back. I found out there is 3 different codes for the fuel system leak. The one I have for a small leak. one for a medium size leak and than one for a big leak. At least at this point I have a small leak. The first thing to check is the gas cap. Then it says to check vaccum lines. Problem is I don't know where these lines are at present.
Scott
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4/22/08, 07:27 PM
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Scott,
I may have some PDF's on the fuel system if you need.
Also, try a Google search for fixing or troubleshooting that code.
Only ones I had was for a rich O2 sensor, it followed the suspect sensor when I swapped sides, but it's been about 1K since the last one popped up for me.
I may have some PDF's on the fuel system if you need.
Also, try a Google search for fixing or troubleshooting that code.
Only ones I had was for a rich O2 sensor, it followed the suspect sensor when I swapped sides, but it's been about 1K since the last one popped up for me.
4/22/08, 07:31 PM
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Interesting for us in Indiana with old cars...
http://www.oldcarsweekly.com/article...ntage_License/
http://www.oldcarsweekly.com/article...ntage_License/
4/22/08, 07:32 PM
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Yeah, I was going to ask about the specifics of the code(small,medium,large) check around that black metal shield under the gas tank for starters if it returns. It holds some key evap system components.
+1 The internet has made life a lot easier thats for sure.
+1 The internet has made life a lot easier thats for sure.
4/22/08, 11:17 PM
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I hate that code, it's a pain in the neck to diagnose. The smoke machine is the best way to find it.
On another note, I once had an E150 conversion van give a gross leak code, brand new truck. I lifted it up and put the smoke machine on it, and what I found made me go
! The conversion company, in their haste to drill the holes in the floor to bolt in the seats, drilled right through the rear floor and into the charcoal canister under the third row. Their drill hit the canister at least twice, making big holes in it. Amazing the stuff you see at a car dealer.
On another note, I once had an E150 conversion van give a gross leak code, brand new truck. I lifted it up and put the smoke machine on it, and what I found made me go
! The conversion company, in their haste to drill the holes in the floor to bolt in the seats, drilled right through the rear floor and into the charcoal canister under the third row. Their drill hit the canister at least twice, making big holes in it. Amazing the stuff you see at a car dealer.
4/23/08, 04:14 AM
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Scott,
I may have some PDF's on the fuel system if you need.
Also, try a Google search for fixing or troubleshooting that code.
Only ones I had was for a rich O2 sensor, it followed the suspect sensor when I swapped sides, but it's been about 1K since the last one popped up for me.
I may have some PDF's on the fuel system if you need.
Also, try a Google search for fixing or troubleshooting that code.
Only ones I had was for a rich O2 sensor, it followed the suspect sensor when I swapped sides, but it's been about 1K since the last one popped up for me.
I hate that code, it's a pain in the neck to diagnose. The smoke machine is the best way to find it.
On another note, I once had an E150 conversion van give a gross leak code, brand new truck. I lifted it up and put the smoke machine on it, and what I found made me go! The conversion company, in their haste to drill the holes in the floor to bolt in the seats, drilled right through the rear floor and into the charcoal canister under the third row. Their drill hit the canister at least twice, making big holes in it. Amazing the stuff you see at a car dealer.
On another note, I once had an E150 conversion van give a gross leak code, brand new truck. I lifted it up and put the smoke machine on it, and what I found made me go
! The conversion company, in their haste to drill the holes in the floor to bolt in the seats, drilled right through the rear floor and into the charcoal canister under the third row. Their drill hit the canister at least twice, making big holes in it. Amazing the stuff you see at a car dealer.Thanks for the help guys. Well I drove the car to Wally World last night and to work this morning and so far "no code".
I don't know how quick it would return if there really is something wrong.
4/23/08, 06:10 AM
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Interesting for us in Indiana with old cars...
http://www.oldcarsweekly.com/article...ntage_License/
http://www.oldcarsweekly.com/article...ntage_License/
It is a pretty neat thing to do. We have been able to do that in Ohio for a number of years. The wife had a 65' Convertible that we had 1965 tags on. Her dad was one of those guys that kept all of his old plates on a wall of his garage. He had a set of 65 tags with the number 8888. He gave them to us and I had them restored. We don't have the car anymore but I still have those tags. Now they are hanging up in my garage.
4/23/08, 06:26 AM
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It is a pretty neat thing to do. We have been able to do that in Ohio for a number of years. The wife had a 65' Convertible that we had 1965 tags on. Her dad was one of those guys that kept all of his old plates on a wall of his garage. He had a set of 65 tags with the number 8888. He gave them to us and I had them restored. We don't have the car anymore but I still have those tags. Now they are hanging up in my garage.
That's cool.
