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Old 10/21/04, 05:47 PM
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I don't like the sound of this either, the IUP was my favorite option!!!!! I hope they just underestimated demand, and are waiting to get back up to speed.
Old 10/21/04, 05:51 PM
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Originally posted by smallpurpleants@October 21, 2004, 3:47 PM
The IUP hold was lifted on my GT today.. and received a build date of 11/8
When did you order your car and when did you get the VIN?
I have placed my order on 09/21 but no VIN or Build Date yet, just wanted to find out yours.
Thanks!
Old 10/21/04, 06:07 PM
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Originally posted by OSUstangfan@October 21, 2004, 5:23 PM
if the MYCOLOR is the problem, and they make an alternative IUP. I think it should look identical, cut the MYCOLOR, and allow the customer to choose what color they want, and knock off $100 from it or something.

FORD,
JUST PRODUCE MY V6 MANUAL WITH IUP!!! SOON!!!
Or at least take it down to where you only have a choice of 5-10 colors. I mean I love the option & hope that my car DOES have it so I can play with it. But I could just as easily be happy with 5-10 colors instead of 125. I mean who really need 125 color choices on a light in a car. It's not like you're choosing a paint color for you kids barbie house & she crys because you get cotton candy pink & she really wanted hot pink. I mean just let us have like white, blue, purple, green, yellow, orange, pink, and a couple others.

Of course that's just my .02 cents.

Cheers mates
Old 10/21/04, 06:19 PM
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Having just 5-10 different colors would require the same hardware as 125 different colors...
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Originally posted by FrankBullitt05@October 21, 2004, 8:22 PM
Having just 5-10 different colors would require the same hardware as 125 different colors...
Ding ding ding ... give the man a cookie!!!!
Old 10/21/04, 06:37 PM
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Originally posted by Grantsdale+October 21, 2004, 6:29 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Grantsdale @ October 21, 2004, 6:29 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-FrankBullitt05@October 21, 2004, 8:22 PM
Having just 5-10 different colors would require the same hardware as 125 different colors...
Ding ding ding ... give the man a cookie!!!! [/b][/quote]
I don't think so. I mean I have fog lights that let me choose between like 7 colors with the push of a button & it's not anywhere near as complicated as the My Color otpion. So, there has to be other ways to give us choices without all the headaches.
Old 10/21/04, 06:45 PM
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I don't want to go off topic, but...

The MyColor uses only 4 LEDs to create the 125 colors, and 5-10 dif colors would be the same...kinda like the elements on a laptop monitor

Now, back to topic....
Does this also affect cars order before the IUP hold, but not yet built (I'm kinda confused on that...)
Old 10/21/04, 06:47 PM
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Originally posted by kerafaith+October 21, 2004, 7:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kerafaith @ October 21, 2004, 7:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Grantsdale@October 21, 2004, 6:29 PM
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@October 21, 2004, 8:22 PM
Having just 5-10 different colors would require the same hardware as 125 different colors...

Ding ding ding ... give the man a cookie!!!!
I don't think so. I mean I have fog lights that let me choose between like 7 colors with the push of a button & it's not anywhere near as complicated as the My Color otpion. So, there has to be other ways to give us choices without all the headaches. [/b][/quote]
true, but there is no way they are going to re-engineer a system like that and have it available in a month. People are unaware at how much trouble a small engineering change is.

Especially working with suppliers, you have to get the part signed off,

Maybe MyColor is still available on V6 premiums, nothing has been offically confirmed (i.e. the order guides have not been changed)
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Originally posted by kerafaith+October 21, 2004, 8:40 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kerafaith @ October 21, 2004, 8:40 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by Grantsdale@October 21, 2004, 6:29 PM
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Having just 5-10 different colors would require the same hardware as 125 different colors...

Ding ding ding ... give the man a cookie!!!!
I don't think so. I mean I have fog lights that let me choose between like 7 colors with the push of a button & it's not anywhere near as complicated as the My Color otpion. So, there has to be other ways to give us choices without all the headaches. [/b][/quote]
Sorry, the way its done is to use LEDs, which give you the same hardware after 3 colors up to 125 (its really 256 but ford has it limited to 125 because they are so close)

4 * 4 * 4 * 4 = 256

I'm sure with your headlight example they aren't much different in color .. because of "forward projected light" laws.
Old 10/21/04, 07:24 PM
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at this point i was going to hold off a bit longer till i was a bit more financially ready to get a GT stang but after hearing all this even though the GTs aren't supposed to run out of IUP it just makes you wonder how much longer will even will have the IUP
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Originally posted by Galaxie+October 21, 2004, 6:50 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Galaxie @ October 21, 2004, 6:50 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by kerafaith@October 21, 2004, 7:40 PM
Originally posted by Grantsdale@October 21, 2004, 6:29 PM
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Having just 5-10 different colors would require the same hardware as 125 different colors...

Ding ding ding ... give the man a cookie!!!!

I don't think so. I mean I have fog lights that let me choose between like 7 colors with the push of a button & it's not anywhere near as complicated as the My Color otpion. So, there has to be other ways to give us choices without all the headaches.
true, but there is no way they are going to re-engineer a system like that and have it available in a month. People are unaware at how much trouble a small engineering change is.

Especially working with suppliers, you have to get the part signed off,

Maybe MyColor is still available on V6 premiums, nothing has been offically confirmed (i.e. the order guides have not been changed) [/b][/quote]
it would make more sense to eliminate the IUP from the V6 deluxe, than just the V6's all together, i think that is just a bad idea. I for one would consider looking to another car if that happened. Or even better, and a better business practice, is build the preordered cars how they were ORDERED, instead of changing the order guide after the orders were placed. Thats just stupid
Old 10/21/04, 09:19 PM
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Well, heres the situation straight out of the horses mouth (aka an engineer at AAI). I asked about the situation about the IUP, and this is what i was told. Yes, there is a material shortage with the IUP, the MyColor is the culprit. so they have cut the segments (IE the V6 option) TEMPORARILY to conserve units. They have just authorized the supplier to get another selective soldering machine coming directly from England to up the suppliers production capacity. The main problem right now is that the suppliers of the smaller components, such as the microprocessors, LEDs, etc. need somewhere in the ballpark of 16-20 weeks lead time to build up enough stock to send over to the supplier that actually builds the IUP assembly. As soon as the new machine and stock have gotten up and running, you will see the MyColor feature again in most of your cars. They don't believe the V6 will not have the ability to order the IUP, but its a temporary fix. The bean counters over at FMC did a real grand job of screwing this one up, but its not a terribly big problem, just a setback.
As for the "lite" option, thats still in the planning stages. No guarantee that its going to happen yet. From what I heard today, the biggest issue is still in the rear axle, where they aren't able to use all of their supply because of quality. They've slowed down the build lines to ensure that they can produce more quality parts, but thats about all I can tell you at this time. Any more news and i will be sure to post.

All of you that ordered your GTs with IUP are still going to get what you ordered, but its just going to take a wee bit longer.
Old 10/22/04, 05:35 AM
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Originally posted by SixtySix+October 21, 2004, 2:31 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (SixtySix @ October 21, 2004, 2:31 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Eric B@October 21, 2004, 12:47 PM
They could axe the IUP combined with beige interior. That looks crappy anyway because the beige and the alu clash imo.
You might change your mind if you saw it in person

And if you did, oh well [/b][/quote]
Actually I did... It's kinda the same with the grey interior btw, aluminum and beige or light grey plastic just don't match, whereas with dark charcoal it's a gorgeous combo. I see this with a lot of cars btw.
Old 10/22/04, 08:25 AM
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Originally posted by HorsC@October 21, 2004, 4:43 PM
ya know i was thinking( i'm getting desperate seeing how i want a V6 w/ IUP) wouldn't Ford have to come out with an offical statement saying that IUP would no longer be avalible in V6s? And if and when they did wouldn't they be expected to at least fill the orders already filed w/ V6 IUP? that would just seem like the right way to do things... It is THIER fault they miscalculated, not ours so i think if you have already ordered your V6 w/ IUP you should still be able to get it up until they ofically annouce it to the public....just my $.02
With disclaimers in their brochures, all they have to do is have your dealer notify you before you take delivery... take it or leave it
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Originally posted by Eric B+October 21, 2004, 8:51 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Eric B @ October 21, 2004, 8:51 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-05MustangSB@October 21, 2004, 12:44 PM
hmmm... maybe i dont fully understand this situation.... if they are running low on the materials for the iup..... why doesn't the company that makes it- just make more???????
You obviously have never run a company that produces specialty materials (or attended any classes on planning or logistics)...

That's the same as saying "Hey Ford we all want our new Mustangs this month so build another 50.000 extra before November 1st will ya?"

No offence intended btw B) [/b][/quote]
youre right, i've never run a company that produces specialty materials or attended any classes on planning or logistics, but i dont see how hard it is to notice how almost every mustang ordered is with the iup... so if everyone's ordering it.... and they know how much they've already produced.... and they see their supply is less than the demand.... why didnt they start making more when they first started seeing alllllll the mustangs getting ordered with the iup.... i'm no planning or logistics major, but if i'm running out of food to eat.... i get more before its already gone...
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Demand forecasting is part black magic, part science. The history of the SN-95 IUP orders would not accurately forecast this because this package is so much more different in impact on appearance. Using an enthusiasts forum is an indicator but not necessarily a precise way of gauging interest.

As someone who deals with supply chain systems, I can assure you the number of variables being juggled to balance cost, availability, and production capability are quite involved.

That said, it's too bad someone did not do a gut check and up the forecast a bit.
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I Just ordered 2 gts and a V6 with IUP, the gts went straight through and the V6 went directly 'ON HOLD' . Does ANYONE have an exact answer on lead times on the V6?
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V6 IUP my understanding there has been no date given as in they could sit there for a long time.
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Sorry to bring an old post up...but does anyone have any idea as to if the post on here concerning, Ford still planning on keeping the IUP and if there will just be a shortage on the V6 for a little while, but will have them once the company has caught up with the demand?
please any here would be greatly appriciated!
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