I would love to throw a coyote in a new edge sn95. a 1999 gt weighs just over 3200lbs, the coyote is lighter then the 2v engine so you would have potentially sub 3200lbs car with 412hp...

 

Bob, knock yourself out. Go ahead, change potentially all the accessories, the wiring harnesses, hope that the engine mounts work, hope that the instrument cluster harness is the same, change the engine and trans, the PCM etc etc. All I'm saying is generally speaking an '05-'09 is worth anywhere from 15k-19k at this point. I would think that this will be done by some, but when you put the project to the spreadsheet and look at it from a financial standpoint, it just isn't a move I would make with my wallet unless all the stuff suddenly appeared for me at no cost or very little.

 

The same could be said about any modding though. You are never going to get your money out of the mods you do, if you sell your car. So if you start analyzing it in terms of financial sense. Then no mods make sense to do.

 

Very well said. That's my same feeling. There are TOO MANY variables, and too much money involved.

It is a given that any modding will not give you your money back at the time of sale. I don't think that's what he was intending to tell you when he mentioned how much the GT will cost you, it's simply how much money you are going to have to invest to begin with, regardless of how much you might get back at the time of selling.

 

Yes but how about we at least think about open minds for this. People making all these claims of how expensive it is going to be. Yet noone has any idea what the price is really going to be. I saw the kit for installing the hot rod 3v into a car for under 2k. It was the wiring and PCM. Then you look at the reality of the mustang engines. I cannot remember seeing a stock mustang (noncobra) motor for over $6k. They have already said the mounts would be the same. So why are so many people talking so negative about it? There is a lot of talk about how expensive it will be. But look at the guy that but a 427SOHC in his 05 mustang. That had to be more expensive than this swap ever could be.

 

All I'm saying is that me personally, I wouldn't do it unless I had mounds of cash and nothing else to do with it. Its not necessarily NEGATIVE, its just if you like lighting money on fire its fine. I know it would be a totally fun project but just from a purely financial perspective, not a good move. Fun as HELL...yes.

 

But here is the question. With what we know for facts, how many mounds of cash is it going to cost? If the kit I saw for installing the 3v hotrod engine is any example. Then the install kit is under $2k. The motor WILL bolt up (This has already been mentioned by Ford). So the real big expense is the motor and if you the transmission you already have does not bolt up, then you will need the transmission. But we are looking at a likelihood of under $8k if you buy from Ford (Far cheaper if you wait for Ebay.) As for power potential.
http://www.hotrod.com/techarticles/e...apability.html
"High boost capability was also protected in the 5.0L's design in the form of heavier main webbing in the cylinder block and optimized head fastener sizes and locations. According to Ford engineers, the greater benefits of direct injection are in supercharged and turbocharged applications. "
So now we have an engine that we can install in our 05+ cars and it has significant advantages over the current 3V motor. All for about the price of buying a longblock built by most of the suppliers around.
I know many people won't do it. If I liked the back end of the 2011, I probably would get rid of mine for one. But I hate the back end of it (Sure I could go aftermarket, but that's more cost and I still don't like the aftermarket ones.). So for me it is not an option.

 

Agreed, just so you can say you got a 5.0? Nah.

 

What the vast majority of you are failing to factor in, is the quantity of these motors there is going to be floating around in NO TIME!!! Its not like we're trying to get our hands on a the old Corvette LT5 from the 95' ZR1 (ITs RARE!!!). We're talking about an engine that will be a dime a dozen in a couple of years, I plan on getting one from a wrecked 11' GT for my 2007 GTCS, and I will, I bet I get the whole thing done for under 7grand too (and even that will be TOO hight)!!! So basically for the price of an Edelbrock E Force SC and an exhaust, I'll get a motor and trans from an newer car with a 100hp more an extra gear in my trans, with more power potential, more economical, with a forged crank and rods, that just plain more BADASS!!! Trust me, if done with a pocket book in mind, it will NOT be as pricey as you think!!

In the end, the Coyote motor is a beast, it is basically what any of us would build if we could, minus the hypeutetic pistons that is...

 

If this was true then it would make sense. But it's not.

 

I saw something about the 5.0 crate motors pricing was gonna be around 9K.
with new PCM. wish i could remember where I saw it..but lost the link.
for 9K I might be tempted rather than go supercharger.
and lets face it ..would nice to put that "5.0" badge on my CS lol

 

Trust me, find a wrecked 2011 6sp GT, grab all the donor parts from it, I bet it comes in at LESS than $9k.... Go to ebay now and check what they've got those 2001 DOHC Cobra motors for its less than $3k most times, its going to be even less for the GT because they'll be for readily available in a couple years....

 

Once again this swap will be done for under $3,000 dollars(not talking brand new crate motor). The end.

 

Okay, so I bought this 05GT with nothing on my mind but driving the **** out of it......not for gas mileage (although it suprised me that it's as good as it is, sometimes). I picked it up on the cheap (11K) and it's got 50K miles on it, a couple of small mods, and lights 'em up and goes sideways whenever I want. It's just too much fun. SO.....I got to thinking that an engine/tranny swap would be kinda fun. I know that slappin' a blower on is a cheaper way to go faster, but what I'd really like to do is swap out the ol' 4.6/5sp for a Roush 427IR/T56 Magnum combo.......I know, I know: WAY too much money.....but the idea of it rocks. Speaking of which, anyone know if the 3v has been stroked to anything larger than 5.1L? Seems to be all I can find on the 'net. Also, since I'm not made of money, and I'd have to hit the right six to make the scenario above happen, anyone have thoughts on when mileage might become a factor if I decide to boost the 4.6? Despite my hammering, it really is pretty well taken care of, and in my quest to twist the tail of GM's and Dodge's everywhere, I'd like a little more ponies under hood.......

 

You could always drop a 5.4 in there from Ford Racing.

That would be a beast for sure

 

Tought the Coyote had a forged crank? Maybe not the rods .

 

I think this might actually be my long term plan with the Bullitt now. I wonder if they're going to be making kits to put this motor in the SN95s. it would be totally sweet to have a bolt in kit (idk if its been mentioned already)

a man can dream right?

 

I don't know if it's been mentioned yet, but the new 5.4 and 5.0 are finally showing up on Ford Racing. It shows the price as still "TBD", but the availability is "Late Summer 2010"...

 

Agreed. Plus the 10+ has the better interior and about 55k less miles than my '06.

 

I would rather drop the new 5.0 in an old fox body, that would be fun!