Because you end up with a much faster car if you go with the GT + 20k. It's the oldest ricer argument in the world but it's true and relevant in this case.

 

Exactly my point. Crazy to swap.

 

I can't wait to do this swap.

 

hey- I resemble that remark

 

I agree- but too good of a idea, would never fly...

I bet they pop these motors out for a couple k net, no assembly plant expenses involved, could give a 1 yr warranty at best...little 'dealer' style costs, very little expenses compared to a complete car to say the least...I'm sure profit percentages would be high compared to a car,but sales volume would leave it a drop in the bucket profitwise for Ford relattively speaking.

is kinda cool though- reminds me of the over the counter SOHC 427 for some reason

 

The CR is 11:1, is it not? No thanks, I wouldn't do it unless it was FI-friendly.

 

We don't know that it's FI-unfriendly at this point.... or what can be done to change the compression if desired.

But I still don't see why we'd go through the expense and hassle of operation. Cost of getting forged guts and much better flow in a 4.6 will probably offset the cost of the PCM and transmission to use the 5.0. Time will tell.

 

If I'm payin 20k for an engine it's gonna be a 3V w/ a Roush TVS on it, installed by Roush themselves.

 

Why not just buy the FRPP H.O. Whipple Kit for your 05-10????

 

Ford already makes these for the 3v I'm fairly certain. I remember seeing their hot rod kit ages ago. I think if they sold an install kit to seamlessly integrate it into an 05-09 or SN95 I'd be all over it, especially if they offer a stripper version where you find and pull your own motor/trans.

this could be a really cool thing. I think we need to wait and see how much this pile of pretty is gonna actually cost before we denounce it for being expensive though lol

I wouldnt do this just for the power either. Even the 3v is more powerful AND more efficient than my bullitts 2v motor. If the coyote is as good as i have a feeling its gonna be, it would be a great addition to an older car, and makes owning an older mustang slightly less painful at the pump. yes i know it probably wont offset the initial cost for a while, but thats what the power is there for. the combination of the power and efficiency help justify a purchase like that.

 

Well said. People are saying just get a new car, but that is not an option. My 05 vert is now probably worth $13. New verts here are $50 000. No way trading in + $15 or $20 is the same as buying a new 5.0. And Shelbys here are still $45 k for a crappy one.

I like this idea better so far.

 

Um... when all y'all talk about forced induction... strokers... what have you... will they also carry the same gas mileage as the 5.0? I am understandably curious.

And besides... adding teh 5.0 and then doing those things to it? Hehe...

/While I'm not inclined to do that swap... I completely understand those that would. More power to ya, I'm down with that. 5.0 in the 1st Gen S197 body...

 

It might be more economical to buy a new car, but not nearly as cool.

Why drop a 5.0 in a Focus? Because you can and have the only one.

 

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Why drop a 5.0 in a Focus? Because you can and have the only one.

Along that same line of thought, I remember Pintos with 351s!

 

guy at work had a 460 in his was NOT street legal though

 

How much will the 5.0L Coyote cost? My bet is nothing less than $15k USD.

 

For those of you that argue that you will save at the pump, can you tell me how many miles it would take you to save the extra cash? If you just for argument sake say your going to get a built block and then supercharge it (3v). Lets say your looking at 10k, just a guess. Then your 5.0 swap will be about 15k. For that 5k difference, your getting less power, more millage, and i'm not sure what else except being able to say that you have a badass 5.0 in your s197. If the difference in mpgs was as much as 5/gal, i doubt it will be, it would take you somewhere on the neighborhood of 150k miles to break even. Its a cool idea and **** if I had money to throw away I'd sure as hell do it because I'm a big fan of the newer technologies, but I don't have a money tree in my back yard. If you have the rock to do it more power to you!

 

My 07 GT was rated 17/25. I really get about 20-21 MPG mixed, with up to 23 MPG if I do more highway driving. I can honestly guarantee that the 5.0L Coyote's 26 MPG highway rating is obtained with the lowest numerical rear axle ratio. If you get the 3.73s or 4.10s, don't expect 26 MPG highway. That's simple math and physics.

I've yet to do an all-highway trip with my GT but based on my calculations (no trip computer in my base/deluxe), the GT gets 25-27 MPG on the highway.

The 5.0 Coyote is nice to have, but I'd prefer to get that from the factory and not have to fiddle fart with a new transmission, clutch, electronics, etc...

 

Thats almost as much or more than (depending on the source) the hand built 5.4 S/C. Ford lists the 5.4 S/C at 15,995 and the outgoing 4.6 3v (w/hotrod cams) for 6,999. I bet the production 5.0 4v will come in just below 10k.

 

All I have to say is I wish I was Ford Racing hehe.

I'd guess a swap would cost you around the 15k people are estimating.

There's no way I would do that... too many better options.

Build your current motor for much less and have a faster better motor.

Swap in a GT500 motor (if you just HAVE to swap a motor in) for the same price and have a better platform as well.

But in the end... IMO... unless you're the type that races your car it's simply not worth it.

But that's just me... after going through the modding bug and finding there is a point where the cost and pain in the *** outweigh the benefit.

I like having a street car with street manners that is still plenty fast but I don't have to worry with burning through a clutch every three months or having some other part break here or there... but that's me