This.

Romeo ftw!

 

Doing this swap by buying all new parts including the engine from the factory to me is plain nuts. The way to do this is to strike a deal on a wrecked '11 for the whole shooting match and then do the transplant yourself. Economically it doesn't make sense the other way unless you have more money than brains. Throwing even 8k at a 4.6 will give you more power and less headaches and potential gotchas during the install.

 

well said!

 

I do. The motor head across the street from my friends place did one. A sleeper when he was finished. The only way you could tell by looking at it was that the oil pan hung down to low.

 

Sure, the cool factor in this swap would be high...for about 5 minutes. I'd rather just have the better handling, better interior, better optioned, better looking, more aerodynamic and efficient car with a factory warranty and a higher resale value.

 

and I disagree, way back in 1986 I'm sure there were plenty of people who said the same thing about folks who dared to be different by messing with fuel injection when it was easier and cheaper to just slap an intake and a carb on and I'm glad the fuel injection guys won out.

 

We are 20+ years passed that point my friend. I have an 89 5.0 at home, and I would dare to do much more creative things to that car than I would to my 07. It's simply a different time, I don't think you'll argue with that.

 

i am interested in this swap for a couple reasons, will i be able to swap in electronic steering? and the package is a lot nicer, and the engin is promising to sound a lot nicer, plus the new trans is a ford built unit, already six speed, and a lot stronger. again, find a used engine and swap, blowing cash on a brand newey would be insane.

one last thing, you get the extra 100hp of the coyote, but oh thats right it runs on regular.

 

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Sorry, the general attitude that "its more money than I would spend so you are stupid" doesn't sit well with me. Being a pioneer in something will never be cheap, but it gets the ball rolling and it benefits alot more people at some point down the line.

This engine is a game changer for the MOD motor, it offers a level of equipment and performance that was previously only available to SVT and some SE guys. The 4.6 3v has seen its best days, going forward the coyote 5.0 is going to be the engine of choice for the aftermarket. At some point the Coyote 5.0 will offer a better $ to Perf ratio than its forebears. Consequently, its better to embrace the future sooner than later.

On a personal note, I've entertained the idea of buying a used 05 to 07 Mustang, gutting it and making it an affordable track car, the Coyote 5.0 would be an awesome application for this - it offers substantially more performance than the 3v ever can without having to resort to either going with a 4v mod motor or having to supercharge it, both of which add a weight penalty. The easier it is to make this a bolt in affair the better.

 

I don't think anyone is intentionally saying that, but I do agree that it certainly does come across that way.

This is something I'd seriously consider a couple years down the road for my 05 when the warranty runs out. Nice way of keeping an old car fresh.

 

And THAT is a big question...I am curious how fitting an engine and PCM that is set up for a steering system to be controlled by a non-hydraulic system would be adapted to a hydraulic one. The cost for dealing with this might be more than desired.

 

Man, forget EPAS, I just want the steering shaft the 2010 GT's have with the 28% stiffer bushing they got out of the GT500KRSS project.

 

That's what I would love to do!!

 

Everyone is talking about the switch being extremely expensive to do, but I'm sure you could recoup some of that cost by selling your 4.6v.

 

I would have to *guess* the steering is a self contained unit...cant really think of any reason the PCM could need to know whats going on with the steering, unless they add steering angle into the TCS(might likely be a steer angle sensor for TCS already?) wonder if someone could find a wrecked '11, if the electric steering rack would mount-up...kinda doubt theyd redesign the chassis mounting for a new steering system- seems it would be less costly to design it to fit the existing chassis/assembly line stuff...will be interesting to see how this all pans out, as do hear great things about the new steering response

 

It may need to know something as it corrects for the crown in the road or wind.

 

I like the idea of it being a kit. I saw 3V motors on Ebay within the last year for $1800. Just need to wait for people to start wrecking them. Then this swap should become a lot cheaper. As for it being cheaper to get a stroker. Have you seen the Saleen/Techo motor prices? $12k for the longblock. Now while some people can do the work themselves. I would say those people might also be able to pull off the swap on their own as well.

 

Stroker kits can be found for 3-4K at the most. The 12K is you want a turn key engine. 2 different monsters.

 

Double post. Sorry.

 

That's true, however if I buy that. I still have to install it. Something I am not currently capable of doing, and others may not be capable either. So now I have to pay to have the motor done for me. Which makes it that much closer to the cost of buying and installing the 5.0. Sure there are potential issues with installing the 5.0 But I'm not sure cost is going to be as big as people are estimating.