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Old 2/20/12, 07:21 AM
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Post Interesting read on max perf tires for the hardcore track guys

http://www.motortrend.com/features/c..._sport_comp_2/

I never considered BFG a premium performance tire, but was pleasantly surprised with the set of used BFG all season M+S 18's I picked up to replace the wife's worn out PZero Neros. Pix later...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7128043...7629066931112/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/7128043...7629066931112/
Treadwear rating 400, so with A ratings for Traction and Temp, I got a slammin' deal for 250 for the entire set. Wife is most pleased...

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Sounds like a commercial for BFG. Not too surprising since they put on the test.

I'm just saying.....
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It sure does, I have no dog in this fight as far as this is a new tire. I guess over time some folks will see if these live up to the manufacturer's claims.
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BFG's parent company is Michelin, they get plenty of trickledown tech (albeit once Michelin has amortized the costs) Although BFGoodrich's tend to place a premium on handling and response over ride comfort and longevity.
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Originally Posted by bob
BFG's parent company is Michelin, they get plenty of trickledown tech (albeit once Michelin has amortized the costs) Although BFGoodrich's tend to place a premium on handling and response over ride comfort and longevity.
Though in the past I've seen BFG not stack up to the Michelin tires. It seems as though Bridgestone and Continental do extremely well against BFG. Though I have not seen the tires in this post much.
I am not exactly sold on Pirelli though. I have no experience with Falken, Nitto, Toyo or Hankook.
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Wow, nice all season radials ya got there! Do they do better in rain or snow?
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Wow, nice all season radials ya got there! Do they do better in rain or snow?
Thread title says "max perf tires for the hardcore track guys", be glad I didn't post Hoosier R6s.
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Originally Posted by 06GT
Thread title says "max perf tires for the hardcore track guys", be glad I didn't post Hoosier R6s.
Thanks! I thought those meats you posted were great. I just can't believe how much these high performance tires cost, holy cow. Does everyone who owns a new Shelby blink at all on the replacement costs for the Goodyear F2's? Ouch.
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Thanks! I thought those meats you posted were great. I just can't believe how much these high performance tires cost, holy cow. Does everyone who owns a new Shelby blink at all on the replacement costs for the Goodyear F2's? Ouch.
Yes, the OEM tires are very expensive. For those of you that are replacing directly with the stock rubber, you should look on ebay to see if anyone is getting rid of take-off wheel and tire packages. You can strip the rubber off and sell the wheels.

This is always the debate when you've only got one set of wheels/tires to do everything. The right way to do this is to have a separate set of wheels and tires for the track, then you can get some more budget-oriented tires for the street.
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Originally Posted by 06GT
Yes, the OEM tires are very expensive. For those of you that are replacing directly with the stock rubber, you should look on ebay to see if anyone is getting rid of take-off wheel and tire packages. You can strip the rubber off and sell the wheels.

This is always the debate when you've only got one set of wheels/tires to do everything. The right way to do this is to have a separate set of wheels and tires for the track, then you can get some more budget-oriented tires for the street.
Agreed. I just get worried about the horror stories I hear about these shops that damage our nice wheels when mounting tires. My wife's stock 18's have some ugly chips in them from the last unmount/remount. Ugh.

Btw, what type/brand of tires was that you posted? Were they a test tread or something you can buy? My buddy who races thought they looked pretty strange.
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Originally Posted by ace72ace
Agreed. I just get worried about the horror stories I hear about these shops that damage our nice wheels when mounting tires. My wife's stock 18's have some ugly chips in them from the last unmount/remount. Ugh.

Btw, what type/brand of tires was that you posted? Were they a test tread or something you can buy? My buddy who races thought they looked pretty strange.
They are Nitto NT01s. 100 treadwear. They are a very common track tire. I have a set on the tire rack in my garage right now...
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Originally Posted by 06GT

They are Nitto NT01s. 100 treadwear. They are a very common track tire. I have a set on the tire rack in my garage right now...
Nitto is a great price/performance tire manufacturer. And they are a US company if you are interested in that kind of thing. I was assuming your picture was of the NT01 since I remember seeing you run them a while back.
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Nitto is owned by Toyo Tires. Regardless, the NT01 is the best DOT track tire for the money, IMO.

Edit: Not sure how long they would last on the street, but some people do run them like that. I would not advise that as it is like lighting cash on fire.

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Originally Posted by ace72ace
Thanks! I thought those meats you posted were great. I just can't believe how much these high performance tires cost, holy cow. Does everyone who owns a new Shelby blink at all on the replacement costs for the Goodyear F2's? Ouch.
Got to pay to play, could be worse though, the 07-09 GT500s are faced with a dwindling range of good rear tires (285/40R18) you can get the Crapyear gen 1 Supercrap tire or a few others (Caveat: The gen II supercar tires are at least a magnitude better in performance).

BFG used to sell a 285/40R18 in a KDW but thats gone, Michelin only sells an all-season tire, Bridgestone sells a runflat, Nitto a drag tire, Continental sells a summer tire as does Pirelli and Yokohoma.

Michelin does have a 255/35R20 and 295/30R20 in a Pilot Super Sport though and through the rack, a set with road hazard and shipping will set you back 1600.00 bucks which IMO isn't that bad for a set of 4 tires since I paid close to 1100.00 for my last set of KDWs.

20 inch rims obviously inflat that price but at least you get access to a broader range of tires and unlike the factory 285/35R19s or 285/30R20s, a 295/30R20 is 27" tall (the 285/35 and 185/30 are 26.8")
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