Yes it is.

 

What about the graphics package Boomer?!

 

I can't comment on what any of them look like.
Cause I honestly don't know.

It's what they can do is what I'm interested the most in....

 

I was expecting you to say West. Such a disappointment you are.

 

maybe just maybe we'll see one at sema? went last year for the first time, already reserved for this year.

 

Its on its way to a rail car as of the 21st.

 

You lost?

 

Not at all, he posted back on page 11, lol.

 

Sorry...

"You Slow?"

Fixed

 

There were 16,783 Mach 1s made for '03 and '04 (9652 in 2003, 7131 in 2004)

 

Thank you, I think that is ample evidense that Ford will make as many of these cars as consumers want! I have heard it time and time again and the fact of the matter is Ford does not make cars for collectors. They are in business to make a profit. If they can make money off a car they will make it. If these #'s are limited it will be the first time in the history of Ford and the Mustang.

We have all heard this before. The Mach 1 is a great example with **** near 17,000 produced. Early production numbers were only supposed to be around 7,000. People wanted them Ford made them, that simple.

Shelby GT500 limited 2 year run. People paying $25,000 over msrp for a car that is now worth $35,000 clean retail. There are now over 30,000 GT500's on the road made from 2007 till now. A far cry from the barely over 5,000 from the 60's and they were far more rare being around 1 in 230 mustangs made in a model year. Now as with the SVT Cobra before they are 1 out of 15 made per model year.

The GT500 KR, limited in numbers but with a price of $80,000. There were KR's all over the place last year still sitting in dealer showrooms as the 2010 GT500 came onto the scene which had 75% of KR's attributes at $30,000 less. These did not fly off lots and some were $10,000 under sticker, although at around 1,500 produced they should hold their value well.

The Bullitt. Limited to around 7,700 units these were all over dealer lots as well and there for quite some time before they sold. Numbers were limited but many people were just not interested in them and they were not not hard to find at all a year ago. Essentially the production easily meet the demand, which I am sure will be the case with the Boss as well.

Between 1969 and 1971 11,813 Boss Mustangs were produced. I would say for 2012 that would easily meet demand. I highly doubt the Boss will be a 1 year run! As always in the end anybody that wants one and can afford it will be able to get one (MSRP or under here folks!). Just like the Mach 1, Bullitt, GT500, etc. Spare me the ADM Bull$h!+ talk. There has not been one Mustang model made that hasn't sold for well under MSRP after the suckers get taken to the bank. Wait! You don't need it now! Patience is a virtue and good things come to those who wait. The Mach 1, GT500 and Bullitt should have all taught us that already!

 

Thanks Tony. I still think if the # isn't 3020 units per year, then we'll see 5000 or more built.

 

Great observation and hopefully correct on the facts...

I have found this to be true for just about anything & everything sold retail, build up the excitement, leak bits of information, feed the rumor mill, scarcity and phony limited numbers of product, and presto,,, you have generated desire that for some is so overwhelming to be the first to "GOTTA HAVE IT AT ANY COST"....

Nothing wrong with being first, if you can afford it, and for awhile you seem to be the only one with your new toy.

I'm always amazed when I see people wait outside a Best-Buy for some new must have electronic Gizmo that they think will only be available that day.

Yes, it's business and business is good if you can generate excitement, I'm excited about the next Mustang (so called collector/limited production must have) Boss 302 but no way I pay premium.

LQQK

 

Although I hope you are correct about supply, I think you've forgotten about the Cobra R models. If you look at what the Boss might be, it more closely mirrors the past Cobra R models than any of the models you mentioned. It's been mentioned that the numbers wouldn't be quite that low but if the numbers were just a few thousand, then there's a chance the dealers could have a field day.

 

Many people who got the early ones for the 2003 model year (myself included) were hoping for somewhat of a limited, single-year run. Based on the discounts people were getting by the 2004 model year, it would seem they were overproduced, especially with the 2005s coming. Ford's business case more than likely accounted for a certain number less than that 17,000 number to be profitable, given the price premium over a GT. Getting that feature car to market, similar to the 2001 Bullitt, was likely a hard exercise in juggling cost at that time, since the SVT Cobra was the main place from which to draw certain performance parts, and both of those cars had very distinct performance parts that were important to the character that weren't readily available in the aftermarket already.

Since there already was an '01 Bullitt, some owners were less than thrilled at the prospect of Version 2. However, the '05-'09 styling lent itself to this car being produced again. It was also thought that a remake of the movie would happen and could potentially conincide with the '08-'09 Bullitt, but that did not happen. They were hard to find in the '08 model year, but less so by '09, especially with the 2010 coming so close on its heels.

The Cobra Rs (all 3 years) might have been the exception because they were limited to the hundreds.

Yes, don't believe the hype, although if the Boss only appears for a few thousand over a single model year or there are NOT a lot of "reused" Ford Racing parts, they might have a different value proposition.

 

In 93 107 were produced, 95 they produced 250, 2000 300 Cobra R models. I highly doubt they are going to produce a Boss Mustang in the hundreds. No Way in Hell! A cobra R by the way really is the equivalent of a current Shelby GT500 KR.

 

How much of a race model is this really going to be? Seriously, I think they make that already in the Boss 302R which is strictly an off road vehicle as a real race car would be. I am thinking more along the lines of a typical special edition mustang with suped up performance no different than the Shelby GT500, Mach 1, Bullitt.

 

I think you will find a number of unique parts not found on other models. It's for this reason that I don't think it will be a limited edition (unless there are supplier limitations), Ford has too much engineering $$ invested to spread the costs over only a few cars.

 

What about the people who want a mix of both? Road and Track?

Well it could be like previous SEs where parts will appear in future cars
or that parts are engineered specifically for this car.

 

I think you are right and Boomer mentioned that they would be producing more. If Ford makes a less than a couple of thousand, then the market is going to be different than other models you mentioned.


IMO, you couldn't be more off base. The old Cobra R's were made for the road coarses and that is not where the GT500 KR is comfortable.