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Old Aug 7, 2014 | 09:22 AM
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Photo from svt performance article. Looks like pericak and team took the complaints to heart very substantial linkage
Yeah that looks beefy as heck!
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Old Aug 7, 2014 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by xlover
Photo from svt performance article. Looks like pericak and team took the complaints to heart very substantial linkage

That would certainly fix the problem if that support structure came in the car but I suspect it will not, that all that support is only there to hold the shifter in place for display purposes. The SVTP article only mentions a new aluminum shift linkage which is obvious in the photo but it does not suggest that the shifter will be mounted to the transmission instead of the body (which is what the Blowfish bracket does).

Looking at that photo, the driveshaft would have to run right between those lower support rails and it doesn't look like there is enough clearance for that. Second, I can't see Ford going from a cheap bracket with zip ties holding the bushings in the '13-'14 cars to that many rails connected to a machined aluminum block for the mount. The cost of this set-up has to be outside the budget of a production vehicle. If it comes like this, that's fantastic. We'll know as soon as somebody can get under a 2015 and see how and where the shifter is mounted.

Now if only Team Mustang cared enough about existing owners to solve the transmission problems we've been having. My Boss has 6,000 miles on it and it's spent nine weeks in dealer service for the transmission. It's had the trans rebuilt three times and finally replaced just last week. It's still not very good.
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Old Aug 8, 2014 | 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Boss 0960
That would certainly fix the problem if that support structure came in the car but I suspect it will not, that all that support is only there to hold the shifter in place for display purposes. The SVTP article only mentions a new aluminum shift linkage which is obvious in the photo but it does not suggest that the shifter will be mounted to the transmission instead of the body (which is what the Blowfish bracket does). Looking at that photo, the driveshaft would have to run right between those lower support rails and it doesn't look like there is enough clearance for that. Second, I can't see Ford going from a cheap bracket with zip ties holding the bushings in the '13-'14 cars to that many rails connected to a machined aluminum block for the mount. The cost of this set-up has to be outside the budget of a production vehicle. If it comes like this, that's fantastic. We'll know as soon as somebody can get under a 2015 and see how and where the shifter is mounted. Now if only Team Mustang cared enough about existing owners to solve the transmission problems we've been having. My Boss has 6,000 miles on it and it's spent nine weeks in dealer service for the transmission. It's had the trans rebuilt three times and finally replaced just last week. It's still not very good.
Well the thin bars extending at the bottom are obviously there for the display.... The point is the thick linkages that connect the shifter to the tranny as well as internal upgrades to improve accuracy and shift quality that are not immediately obvious. Unfortunately the 11-14 peeps got to QA the mt82 for the mustang and it looks like a very improved tranny. Sorry about your boss maybe it will be adaptable but I doubt it. I hope blowfish can resolve your issues but I doubt they will be needed on 15+ cars, only time will tell
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Old Aug 8, 2014 | 06:51 AM
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I think there are some good comments in this thread...the design is somewhat polarizing but generally speaking, the non-Mustang world is receiving it very well and that's a good sign.

Personally, I have yet to see one in the actual sheet metal but looking over countless pictures, I can't make up my mind. I certianly don't dislike it but I can't decide if I like it as much as the 2010-2012 or 2013-2014 cars.

Mechanically, it should blow the S197s out of the water...but honestly, the S197 cars (going back to 2005) are fantastic driving automobiles. Solid predictable handling, stiff chassis, strong engines (even the 4.6L 3V motor was a gem). It's not like these cars are lacking in any way.

I'm 50/50. I'd love to have a fresh Mustang in my garage but there's not a **** thing wrong with my 2011.
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Old Aug 8, 2014 | 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Rev Ron
Yeah, it is ok to dislike, no, really hate the 2015 Mustang. Granted, it will be a strong GT! Granted, it will be a softer ride, if that is how you define a real Mustang. For sure, it will be a better all-around car than my 65 fastback or 85 convertible or 01 convertible or my 04 Mach 1 or my 05 GT or my 07 GT or my 2012 or my 2014. That's enough. For me, and some others who have been around for the whole Mustang experience, THE unique thing about a real Mustang are the lines, what it looks like. The 2015 looks like a wreck of a Fusion and a Z car with some European body work. Then again, us old guys are dying out (along with our money), so Ford is now trying to make a car for you younger guys in US, Germany, Brazil, etc. Oh well, all things must change. Don't know that the 50th Anniversary Stang I have coming at sticker price will ever see my garage. I have looked & looked at the pictures on the internet, but still cannot get used to it, much less call it beautiful.


After reading your post and absorbing some of your comments indicating that "The 2015 looks like a wreck of a Fusion and a Z car with some European body work" and "still cannot get used to it, much less call it beautiful" I am somewhat shocked for someone that has such a dislike for the new 2015 Mustang that you actually ordered this new model???

Obviously you have had and still retain many different generation Mustangs and I am in the same position and we are probably much the same age? I have been fortunate to not only view the 2015 Mustang in person from every angle including sitting in this new model and consider this Mustang outstanding in every aspect. This new model reminds me of the '65 Mustang 2+2 K code model I had many years ago and much more so than my 2012 and 2013 cars.

As we all know the 2015 model has a longer nose, shorter rear deck, is a little wider and sits lower than a 2013/2014 model but unfortunately gained a little weight due to additional air bags, much larger brakes, IRS etc. but the additional torque and horsepower will certainly take up the minimal increased weight.

Not sure where you got the idea of a softer ride for this new Mustang unless you are specifically talking about either a convertible or a fastback model equipped without the "GT Performance Package" which comprises 14 different upgrades from a non GT Performance Package car?

As far as performance goes for this new Mustang, I have had numerous conversations with various Ford engineers over the last 6 months and they tell me that the 2015 Mustang is quicker around the Mazda Laguna Seca track than my 2012 Boss 302 LS and they indicated it was a much as a couple of car lengths over the 2.2 mile track. Much better brakes on the 2015 along with the IRS and improved torque ratings all add up to a much better car and I certainly respect my Boss 302 cars.

It is obvious that you have not seen this new 2015 Mustang in person and have only viewed it via an internet screen. I suggest that when you see your new 50th Anniversary Mustang in person in contrast to looking on line that you will be quite impressed with the cars line, interior and all of the performance improvements.

If you are not impressed with your 50th Anniversary model after it arrives then you and I are obviously on totally different pages?
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Old Aug 8, 2014 | 01:21 PM
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I have to say, there are allot of people who dont like it. My offhand observation is, the ones who dont like it, are the '05-'14 owners. Not saying this is gospel, but just an observation.
My '15 will be here soon, I hope...still havent gotten a VIN.
I would like the ones who dont like them, to look close at some of the new "Stang's design.
Look at how the fastback comes down on top of the fenders. Very similar to the '69/'70. Look at the front corner, at the top of the fender. You can see the '65-'70's there also.
Look at the front of a '67/'68 Shelby. Very similar.
As for looking like, or similar to the front of a Fusion...pptttt. I see a similarity in the grill shape, but the 'Stang grill is wider, shorter in ht, and is not going to be mistaken for the Fusion in any way, at least not by me.

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Old Aug 9, 2014 | 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Garbone
I have to say, there are allot of people who dont like it. My offhand observation is, the ones who dont like it, are the '05-'14 owners. Not saying this is gospel, but just an observation. My '15 will be here soon, I hope...still havent gotten a VIN. I would like the ones who dont like them, to look close at some of the new "Stang's design. Look at how the fastback comes down on top of the fenders. Very similar to the '69/'70. Look at the front corner, at the top of the fender. You can see the '65-'70's there also. Look at the front of a '67/'68 Shelby. Very similar. As for looking like, or similar to the front of a Fusion...pptttt. I see a similarity in the grill shape, but the 'Stang grill is wider, shorter in ht, and is not going to be mistaken for the Fusion in any way, at least not by me.
No worries, minds will change when the 15 hits the streets ;-)
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Old Aug 9, 2014 | 09:47 AM
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I just purchased a 2014 mustang because I just wasn't there yet on the 15's but I'm sure it will grow on me.
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Old Aug 9, 2014 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Garbone
I have to say, there are allot of people who dont like it. My offhand observation is, the ones who dont like it, are the '05-'14 owners. Not saying this is gospel, but just an observation.
My '15 will be here soon, I hope...still havent gotten a VIN.
I would like the ones who dont like them, to look close at some of the new "Stang's design.
Look at how the fastback comes down on top of the fenders. Very similar to the '69/'70. Look at the front corner, at the top of the fender. You can see the '65-'70's there also.
Look at the front of a '67/'68 Shelby. Very similar.
As for looking like, or similar to the front of a Fusion...pptttt. I see a similarity in the grill shape, but the 'Stang grill is wider, shorter in ht, and is not going to be mistaken for the Fusion in any way, at least not by me.
^^^ This ^^^
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Old Aug 11, 2014 | 07:27 PM
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This is ultra petty for sure and would in no way prevent me from buying one, but **** the 5.0 emblem on the fender is ugly.
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Old Aug 12, 2014 | 07:58 AM
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I do not hate the new Mustang, but it just does not appeal to me. I am a baby boomer, so of course, the styling cues of my '14 GT that harken back to the '60 and '70s Mustangs are what I like. From the side the new Mustang reminds me of the Infiniti G37S coupe I owned, not a Mustang. Many love the new styling and that is ok. I hope Ford sells a bunch of them so the Mustang brand will survive.
Being retired, I only put about 7K miles a year on mine and plan to have it when the next redesign comes around in a few years. Might be I will like the next one better.
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Old Aug 12, 2014 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by TucsonDave
I do not hate the new Mustang, but it just does not appeal to me. I am a baby boomer, so of course, the styling cues of my '14 GT that harken back to the '60 and '70s Mustangs are what I like. From the side the new Mustang reminds me of the Infiniti G37S coupe I owned, not a Mustang. Many love the new styling and that is ok. I hope Ford sells a bunch of them so the Mustang brand will survive.
Being retired, I only put about 7K miles a year on mine and plan to have it when the next redesign comes around in a few years. Might be I will like the next one better.
Well said. Im sure the next design will not go back but evolve the car even more forward with a more sports car look rather than muscle car.
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Old Aug 12, 2014 | 08:25 AM
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My first car was a new 1972 Mach 1 fastback, 351 engine, induction air scoops, bright yellow with racing stripes. I have compared every car since then with the '72 'stang. The 2015 is the first Mustang that gave me the same smile while looking at it. I only wish that Triple Yellow had more seat color choices than just black. The factory stripes look like
someone marked the lower panel with an eyebrow pencil.
Maybe the 2022 Mustang will bring back the '72 look?!
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Old Aug 12, 2014 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Garbone
I have to say, there are allot of people who dont like it. My offhand observation is, the ones who dont like it, are the '05-'14 owners. Not saying this is gospel, but just an observation. My '15 will be here soon, I hope...still havent gotten a VIN. I would like the ones who dont like them, to look close at some of the new "Stang's design. Look at how the fastback comes down on top of the fenders. Very similar to the '69/'70. Look at the front corner, at the top of the fender. You can see the '65-'70's there also. Look at the front of a '67/'68 Shelby. Very similar. As for looking like, or similar to the front of a Fusion...pptttt. I see a similarity in the grill shape, but the 'Stang grill is wider, shorter in ht, and is not going to be mistaken for the Fusion in any way, at least not by me.
Also, I have to add that add much as I love the 13-14, I can't count how many times I have mistaken a newer model for an 05-09. From the front and rear view it's easy to tell the difference but from certain side angles or when people mod the front ends on their newer stangs it looks like the previous 05-09s. Same old body style. It's been almost 10 years with this body style and I'm thankful for the big changes in the 15 model.
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Old Aug 12, 2014 | 12:38 PM
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[QUOTE=eric n;6738773]I am all about the 2015 mustang. I firmly believe it's going to be a huge success and anticipate getting one of the first few SE (Boss, Mach, gt350...). I look forward to the awesome interior, the improved handling afforded by the IRS, the more potent power train... I'm just all about everything about the stang. I will go as far as saying that it might just be the best looking mustang of all time and I've owned a several. Again this is opinion ONLY!

But, I know that some of you just aren't into the 2015 stang. So for those of you who just aren't into it, what I'm asking is that 1 year from release, come back online and give your opinion. I'm going out on a limb and predicting that well over 80% are going to be in love. All I ask is that you are all honest.

I like the new Mustang Gt. Especially the rear end. I wouldn't say it's the nicest of all time though lol. For me that would be the 1968 Mustang Shelby GT500 aka Eleanor.
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Old Mar 5, 2015 | 07:06 AM
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My 2012 GT Premium used Koni STr Shocks. Steeda Ultralite springs & HD upper strut mounts. Eibach F/R adjustable sway bars, 18/9 with 255x45 Continental DW and 18/10 with 285/40 Continental DW, JMS panhard bar (it rode like a truck), CAI, custom tune, Bassani X-pipe w/ Hushpower exhaust, 3.73 gears...and my new 2015 GT Premium handles better and rides much more comfortably...and is almost as quick too. To each his/her own, as long as its a Mustang.
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Old Mar 5, 2015 | 12:21 PM
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I'm still hoping Ford will re-design the front end and hopefully the tail by MY18. The "large mouth bass" front and the fugly tail are still deal breakers for me. I don't mind the departure from retro styling, but if you're going to make a car look like a modern sports car, do it right or don't do it at all.

Hate to say this but if I haven't gotten my 2014 in time, I'd probably be a 1LE driver right now.

Originally Posted by Music man in Pcola
My 2012 GT Premium used Koni STr Shocks. Steeda Ultralite springs & HD upper strut mounts. Eibach F/R adjustable sway bars, 18/9 with 255x45 Continental DW and 18/10 with 285/40 Continental DW, JMS panhard bar (it rode like a truck), CAI, custom tune, Bassani X-pipe w/ Hushpower exhaust, 3.73 gears...and my new 2015 GT Premium handles better and rides much more comfortably...and is almost as quick too. To each his/her own, as long as its a Mustang.
I get that your 15 rides better, but i call BS on it handling better. Unless your definition of handling is ride comfort and lack of harshness. With springs and shocks late model S197s can pull 1.1g in corners on street tires. S550 is rated at 0.98g with the PP.

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Old Mar 5, 2015 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Music man in Pcola
My 2012 GT Premium used Koni STr Shocks. Steeda Ultralite springs & HD upper strut mounts. Eibach F/R adjustable sway bars, 18/9 with 255x45 Continental DW and 18/10 with 285/40 Continental DW, JMS panhard bar (it rode like a truck), CAI, custom tune, Bassani X-pipe w/ Hushpower exhaust, 3.73 gears...and my new 2015 GT Premium handles better and rides much more comfortably...and is almost as quick too. To each his/her own, as long as its a Mustang.

Well said^^^.
The original post was over a year ago, and we are seeing quite a few new '15's on the street now, so all of those who didn't like it, has seeing it in person, and on the street made any difference in your opinion?


The first thing my mom said is "it looks way meaner than your red one".


The red one was a lowered New Edge, with huge tires, and a Kenne Bell SC, and looked ready to eat a Camaro or 2.


C'mon all those who didn't like them, speak up...you are among friends here...we are all Mustang lovers, after all.
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Old Mar 5, 2015 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Garbone
Well said^^^.
The original post was over a year ago, and we are seeing quite a few new '15's on the street now, so all of those who didn't like it, has seeing it in person, and on the street made any difference in your opinion?


The first thing my mom said is "it looks way meaner than your red one".


The red one was a lowered New Edge, with huge tires, and a Kenne Bell SC, and looked ready to eat a Camaro or 2.


C'mon all those who didn't like them, speak up...you are among friends here...we are all Mustang lovers, after all.
Nope! Seeing it in person (and living in Detroit you see lots of them) has re-affirmed my initial disappointment with the redesign. And I'm not even talking straight line performance. I'm talking purely on looks.

I do have to say the interior is a lot nicer though.
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Old Mar 5, 2015 | 02:48 PM
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All I Know is that every where I go everyone looks at my 2015 and asks questions about it. hell some people think I'm driving a more expensive car and are surprised that it is a mustang.
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