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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Yigal6
I'm breaking my promise not to post here even though I'm a man of word. It just bothers me that people are so quick to blame with no visual or technical evidence. I described everything that happened in my first post. If you guys were genuinely interested in what happened you could have just asked me specific questions. I was here all the time, I did not run away. My wife is very surprised with my patience when I told her that I still check the latest posts here.
I'm sure engineers at Ford are not stupid and can find out exactly what happened to the car.
When I received a call from the shop the guy said that they found oil in the tank and said that Ford will not cover the expense as it looks like an act of a vandalism. I do not know if they came to this conclusion by just looking at the color of the fuel, or did some tests. 2 days later they told me that when they smudge the fuel on the finger it dissipated completely leaving only dark residue. I think oil would still be felt on the finger as it can not evaporate. So maybe the dark substance are some charred particles from a bad cylinder, I do not know. There was only 2 or 3 gallons of fuel when that happened, so may be it was very easy for the fuel to change color.
Please just ignore me if you already made up your mind. The easiest way to find more about it is to call the shop, you know their name.
A lack of information on your part doesn't constitute a fault on ours. You WERE asked specific questions. People were trying to help you and you weren't getting back to them. Even the Ford Rep had to wait days before you provided the information she asked for.

At some point, no matter how busy you are, if you want your $30k+ car repaired and repaired properly, without you having to pay for it, you are going to HAVE to take some time to become informed. I don't know jack squat about how to mine for gold. But if some showed up in my yard, you can bet your *** I would learn. And quickly.

Keep us informed about what the over all condition with your car turns out to be. Now that it seems like this is real and not some GM troll, I'm interested in helping anyway I can.
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Old Dec 6, 2011 | 07:24 AM
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Will do in a minute.
I did ask my ins agent about filing a police report, he said that after he called Statefarm he was told that it was not necessary.
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 07:04 AM
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ok so ford is not covering this engine? im just a little confused. I completely understand if it was vandalism...although i didnt think oil in the gas would grenade it...we are here to help. where do you stand now? is it an insurance claim? the shop that working on it is it a dealer? keep us informed. good luck
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 09:31 AM
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In OP defense, the tech claims a it was oil, but it could be alot of other things that were thrown in, something that can clog injectors and cause vehicle to run lean, will deffinatly cause block damage.
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 09:36 AM
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Ford is covering the replacement of the engine, the shop rep said the only thing that is not covered is the cleaning of the gas tank which I agreed to pay for. Insurance agents were in contact with Ford, they also sent their specialists to the shop. I guess insurance agents were able to prove that it was not vandalism. The shop belongs to a dealership which has a different location (a few miles away). I asked them to keep a sample of the fuel for me if future tests will be necessary and to hopefully find out exactly what happened. They said the car should be ready by the end of the week.
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 09:38 AM
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Sounds good. Please post pics of the samples s o we can see them
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 09:57 AM
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Will do
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 10:18 AM
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Cool, i am interested to see pictures as well. Very strange problem. I would ask the tech who replaces the motor to take pictures of the intenals. I am curious to see if number 8 piston is fubared..
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 10:21 AM
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I still think the motor is good.
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by texastboneking
I still think the motor is good.
+1.....
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 11:35 AM
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Reading this post brought back memories of what people I know have accidently put into their fuel tanks. I know of farm wifes who have backed up to the diesel tank and filled their gas burning cars tank with diesel fuel from the tank with the tractor fuel. Needless to say, the engine did not run well untill the fuel was finally used up and fresh gas put in the tank. No harm was done to the engine. I know dealers who check fuel samples for engines that dont run good because some people try to use E85 in cars designed to be run on gasoline. Then they wonder why their car does not run right.
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by texastboneking
I still think the motor is good.
+ another 1 hope you get the car back soon, cant wait to hear what the final outcome is- good luck!
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Yigal6
When I received a call from the shop the guy said that they found oil in the tank and said that Ford will not cover the expense as it looks like an act of a vandalism. I do not know if they came to this conclusion by just looking at the color of the fuel, or did some tests. 2 days later they told me that when they smudge the fuel on the finger it dissipated completely leaving only dark residue. I think oil would still be felt on the finger as it can not evaporate. So maybe the dark substance are some charred particles from a bad cylinder, I do not know. There was only 2 or 3 gallons of fuel when that happened, so may be it was very easy for the fuel to change color.
Please just ignore me if you already made up your mind. The easiest way to find more about it is to call the shop, you know their name.
Why did they check the fuel to begin with? If they weren't gonna cover it, I'd expect proof as to why they thought it was vandalism. So they changed their mind, and decided to cover it?...Why?...I'd wanna know.
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 09:42 PM
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The fuel system in these cars is the non-return type. That means that even if the fuel could be contaminated at the engine, it would not pollute the tank.
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Old Dec 7, 2011 | 10:04 PM
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Is it me or are majority of people having issues with the 5.0. It seems that owners of the 2011 plus V6 models are not having as many issues with the car as the 5.0. What's the deal?
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by 2011 Kona Blue
Is it me or are majority of people having issues with the 5.0. It seems that owners of the 2011 plus V6 models are not having as many issues with the car as the 5.0. What's the deal?
There are many more 5.0 owners on here.
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 2011 Kona Blue
Is it me or are majority of people having issues with the 5.0. It seems that owners of the 2011 plus V6 models are not having as many issues with the car as the 5.0. What's the deal?
no, the guys who do have issues, whine more cause the cars are more expensive!! plus we are more of enthusiast than most v6 owners..
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by ShaneGT

no, the guys who do have issues, whine more cause the cars are more expensive!! plus we are more of enthusiast than most v6 owners..
Lol. I don't think anyone is whinning. I be pissed if my car had the same issues and was new. I would not be happy. True the V8 guys and girls are more the race track and road course drivers. I think for sixers of previous years 2010 under its all about the smooth look of the stang and not the hp and speed and how big the sway bars are.
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by ShaneGT
plus we are more of enthusiast than most v6 owners..
In general? Yeah. But on a Mustang enthusiast website? No.

Originally Posted by 2011 Kona Blue
I think for sixers of previous years 2010 under its all about the smooth look of the stang and not the hp and speed and how big the sway bars are.
Nothing changed. The V6 is still the base model. For most, it's still about the looks and not HP/etc.
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Old Dec 8, 2011 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by stupidgenius36
In general? Yeah. But on a Mustang enthusiast website? No.

Nothing changed. The V6 is still the base model. For most, it's still about the looks and not HP/etc.
I think attitudes may be changing with new 305 hp sixer keeping right with the previous year GT's

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