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Old 4/29/10, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Evolution Performance
We actually hired/trained two more people that will be active on the forums for us along with Kent because I may be off doing R&D on new stuff!

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Great to hear!! Have you all thought about doing your own forum site hosted off your site?
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Great to hear!! Have you all thought about doing your own forum site hosted off your site?
Not really interested!
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Originally Posted by Evolution Performance
Not really interested!
Makes sense
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Originally Posted by Evolution Performance
We actually hired/trained two more people that will be active on the forums for us along with Kent because I may be off doing R&D on new stuff!

Fred
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Good because the lack of forum participation really turned me off back when I got my 2010 GT500.
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Good because the lack of forum participation really turned me off back when I got my 2010 GT500.
I agree, that's why we addressed it this time around, we learn from our mistakes!
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Originally Posted by Evolution Performance
We actually hired/trained two more people that will be active on the forums for us along with Kent because I may be off doing R&D on new stuff!

Fred
Evolution Performance, Inc.
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Great to hear Fred!

Originally Posted by Evolution Performance
Not really interested!
Great for us to hear at least
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This should get very interesting. Good to see the car in the hands of a good Tuner/Aftermarket group.
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I bet the wheelhop can be attributed to running 40 series tires at stock air pressures, not to mention that they are summer rubber and it was cold last night.
Most likely it's the slotted rubber bushings used in the LCAs, if that's what they're still using.
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Originally Posted by Sax1031
Bob in the other Evolution Performance thread, if you haven't seen it yet, they confirmed the numbers are SAE #s.
Ok, thanks.
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Originally Posted by eci
Ricer math. You cannot extrapolate crank HP from a dyno period.
While true, you can at least get a good feel for crank HP from a dyno. Our modern Mustangs lose about 12% hp from crank to the wheels with a manual trans and about 15% with an auto.

A better performance indicator is trap speeds from the 1/4 mile timeslips. That is based on pure physics (a known weight moved over a known distance at a known terminal velocity).
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Originally Posted by Evolution Performance
Now you know why we bought three 2011 GT's so we can develop parts a lot quicker!
How does this work for a business? I assume you can use the purchase of 3 vehicles as a tax deduction? Great info so far Evo! Please keep it coming!!
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I don't know how many of you are on Facebook, but I suggest being a fan of our Page. I will be updating it with all 2011 Mustang GT 5.0L 4V related stuff along with Photos and Videos! It really is the best place to check for our on going updates!

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Evolution-Performance-Inc/262882950647
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here is the stock dyno video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaZ3bJOKOwI
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Originally Posted by Five Oh Brian
Our modern Mustangs lose about 12% hp from crank to the wheels with a manual trans and about 15% with an auto.
No. You leave out dyno type in this statement. You are assuming a Mustang Dyno, Dynojet, Dynapack, Dyno Dynamics et al will all show this same "percentage".

Then you have to assume the dyno operator knows what they are doing ( rare ) and what correction factor was used.
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Originally Posted by todd03blown
here is the stock dyno video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaZ3bJOKOwI
Hey what's that red car next to it??
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The only way to know for sure how much loss you will have from the flywheel to the rear wheels is to compare the same engine run on an engine dyno then a chassis dyno. Even that depends upon getting the engine dyno passes setup as close to what you would see on the chassis dyno as possible (mainly accessories and exhaust). Very few have actually done this (chassis dynos easy to do, plentiful, and cheap to use....engine dynos are none of the above).

The % formula's are a decent first guess, but shouldn't be taken as ground truth.
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Originally Posted by BLKCLOUD
The only way to know for sure how much loss you will have from the flywheel to the rear wheels is to compare the same engine run on an engine dyno then a chassis dyno. Even that depends upon getting the engine dyno passes setup as close to what you would see on the chassis dyno as possible (mainly accessories and exhaust). Very few have actually done this (chassis dynos easy to do, plentiful, and cheap to use....engine dynos are none of the above).

The % formula's are a decent first guess, but shouldn't be taken as ground truth.
This.

The whole "15%" thing is a bogus # based on what people GUESS from Dynojets. It is accurate to the tune of +/- 25 hp. If a 50 HP range is "close enough" for you then keep doing the 15% thing.
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From EP on facebook:

Evolution Performance, Inc. Our Stock 2011 Mustang GT 5.0L 4V weighs 3,824lbs with Driver and a Full Tank of Gas!

Here they are in the staging lanes...waiting...waiting..


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yup.
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