RCSignals

Sounds more like the owners of Black Chargers, but OK

2k7gtcs

Man this thread is long and useless but for the sake of finality I would like to sum up my views.

A 2008 Bullitt Mustang is a Mustang. I love Mustangs especially s-197's as I have one. Therefore I love Bullitts. I understand that in some cases Bullittheads are very passionate about their vehicles as I am about my own but a Bullitt comes with a sense of history even though it is at the mercy of Ford Motor Co. A stock Bullitt is an upgrade in performance, handling, and aura than a stock GT. I get it. I'm just not that breed of Mustang owner. I'm the breed of Mustang owner that likes to mod, self mod is possible, their Mustang to reflect my tastes and personality. Bullitts are tough, I love the Highland Green, I like the sleeper look. Congrats to those of you who own one, you should be proud. All I have ever said, except for some sarcasm, is don't chase unknown women, or anyone for that matter, in your car, and 15hp is not a lot of horsepower considering most of us have done the same or more with CAI, etc. And most of us have lowered our GT's also with performance springs and dampners. Who would win in a race? Don't know, depends on driver, track or strip, setup, and a host of other factors. Do I trust Motor Trend numbers for direct comparison? No. They try, but unless they put same driver in same conditions they're off. That's just the way it is.

DrunkenDragon713

Stock for Stock, Bullitt wins off the line with comparable drivers. But if you take how must you've spent on it, then instead buy a GT and mod it, you'd get much more from the GT. Although that could be said about any car...

Hollywood_North GT

Haha. True dat. This just proves they're no faster in the real world than a regular 'ole stock GT.

But, some people have bought into the hype, and to them I say congratulations.

I actually looked at a Bullitt in the showroom last week and was even more disappointed in the car in person than I was when I first saw the photos. It's not understated, it's just plain dull looking.

But hey, each to their own. Just don't expect you're going to easily take a GT, cause it ain't gonna happen, doubly so if the GT has a good CAI + tune and some wider, stickier rubber.

Martimus

And never be foolish enough to believe that Bullitt owners aren't willing to make strategic mod's unseen at first glance. That "dull" Bullitt sitting next to you at the track may well have a few secrets under the hood to help them leave you at the starting line!

Hollywood_North GT

To be clear on this whole stock vs. stock thing: the Bullitt is nothing more than a stock GT with some FRPP enhancements, nearly all of which (minus the RPM adjustment) can be done to any GT.

Hollywood_North GT

'Cept it's not their left hands they want you to kiss.

Hollywood_North GT

Better be a ROUSHCharger.

Martimus

Thats the beauty of stealth... ya just NEVER know!!!

Hollywood_North GT

To be absolutely clear: I'm not seriously slagging the Bullitt - it has its own charms which either appeal or don't.

For me - and I was long considering / watching '08 Bullitt development before ultimately deciding on my GT - Ford didn't go far enough with the car cosmetically, an oversight I ultimately anticipated before the car arrived.

I expect '1Bullitt' (George) is planning to account for this oversight with his cosmetic mods. It will be interesting to see what he comes up with.

My problem is - as it has been for some time - the arrogant attitude of some azzclowns around here who bought Bullitts. I'm certainly not referring to you, but those to whom I am referring know who they are.

For me personally, I prefer the cosmetics of the GT over the Bullitt, which is ultimately why I decided upon a GT. Price-wise, for what I've done to my car, I probably paid just as much after mods as I would have shelled out for a Bullitt. But I prefer my choice.

Black GT500

Except for the 3.73/1 gears you might almost have a point. That Factory rear end makes it worth it to me all by itself. I don't want to take a brand new cars rear end apart, I would much rather get the gears I want set up at the factory.

Here is my Rant on gear changes.
http://forums.bradbarnett.net/showth...07#post5527207

As to doing your own modifications, have at it. I have had to settle for half-assed hotrods my whole life. For the first time since 1971 Ford is finally offering factory Hotrod options again, along with one of the best looking Mustang Bodies ever. I can now buy a factory sleeper hotrod with full warranty that is absolutely better than the standard Mustang GT and arguably better than the $7000 more expensive Shelby GT.

Disparage the Bullitt all you like, if you take into account the whole package, it is a GREAT factory Mustang at a VERY reasonable price.

SurfGuitar

I drove a buddy's new Bullitt about 40 miles in mid-January. That drive caused me to want a new Mustang, as I hadn't had one since I sold my '95 (Cobra R) several years back.

A few days later after selling my daily driver Honda, I went to my dealer and drove a nicely equippped GT with a 3.55 axle. Very nice car, but my buddy's Bullitt had a totally different "feel", I assume because of the suspension, seating and gearing upgrades. And the Bullitt had a throatier exhaust note.

The GT was more attractive price-wise, due to buyer incentives and a nice dealer discount that the Bullitt didn't have. However, I felt that the Bullitt was really worth the extra money, plus I liked it's stealthy look. It is not everyone's cup of tea, but if we all liked the same stuff, it would be a boring world. Different strokes for different folks, and all that. And besides, no matter how fast your car is, someone out there has a faster one, so ...?

So, I ordered a Bullitt. Built 3/1, shipped 3/10, so it should be here any day.

Martimus

Though I suspect this is stating the obvious there were, to use your word, azzclowns on both side of the issue. (and by the way I'm NOT pointing fingers at anyone!!!!)

What disturbs me is that I've seen a few parallels to the knuckle-draggers who, on some Mustang forums, regularly slam V6 Mustangs as been less then what they proudly are... Mustangs! In the case of the Bullitt I suspect a few of those cave dwellers may see this car as one step above a V6 due to its lack of chromed plastic fender emblems and an extra set of (almost) headlights in the front grille.

2k7gtcs

The year was 1989. My best friend was buying a car. He was looking at a new grey 4 cylinder Mustang LX for around $9k or a new Escort GT for a few hundred less. The salesman says that with the Escort you get upgraded GT performance, I look at my buddy and say "A Mustang is a Mustang, no matter if its 4 cylinders or 8." He bought the Mustang. We drive Mustangs that share the common bond of that 1964.5 model. A way of life. A car that changed history. A Mustang is a Mustang.

Hollywood_North GT

Whatever floats one's boat. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, after all.

Personally, I was hoping for more - not scallops and scoops - but perhaps the vented hood, a slightly different lower front fascia and modified side rocker panels, a properly lowered stance (not a lousy quarter inch, which is like throwing bricks in the Grand Canyon, IMO) and one or two other little things like maybe wider rubber.

Some people call it "stealthy" or "understated," or a "sleeper," but to me, there's a difference between that and "plain."

It's like calling a plain looking girl "understated." In this case, the euphemism doesn't work for me.

One thing is for certain, when it comes to grip, the Bullitt has a nice suspension set up, but all that good is undone because it is under-tired. I haven't touched my suspension yet, but I have much better 255 tires on all four wheels and would venture to guess that my GT will corner as well as a stock Bullitt with its factory 235s on all four corners.

Martimus

Nobody accused you of being one of the knuckle-draggers. My previous Mustang was a Mineral Grey V6 and the oldest Mustang I ever owned was a 78 4-banger

2k7gtcs

I didn't think so. Just explaining how I've always felt, and how I feel today. That's all. I'm not that sensitive.

Martimus

So you're telling me there's a law somewhere that says you can't mod a Bullitt?

Scott Hoag is finishing up plans for a Bullitt Reload package. The package will include additional suspension upgrades, a vented hood, quarter louvers, etc. Don't forget that the Bullitt, like every other Mustang, is customizable to the wants and desires of its owner.

So you're comparing stock tires on the Bullitt with after-market tires you purchased and installed on your car??? Ok... well $800 easily pays for a set of Goodyear Eagle F1's for someone wanting that kind of gripping power. Personally I'd lean towards Nitto's and I'm sure others would have other preferred brands too.

Hollywood_North GT

I always prefer to leave special editions alone...that's what makes them "special" - you shouldn't be required to do anything (or very little).

That said, the Reload package does sound intriguing. It may actually transform this car into the one I was originally hoping for 16 months ago.

Yes. I believe that's what I was doing.

goesfast

Too many people focus on the meager 15hp gain over a stock GT when comparing the Bullitt. Those who have actually driven it (and know how to drive a car) know that it is much more than just 15 more horsepower. It is a balanced and tuned car. A driver's car so to speak, right from the factory. A lot of people say that Ford should have done this or that to "get it right", as if they knew better when it came to designing and presenting a car to the public (with all the regulations that go in to being able to actually produce and sell the car, eg:NO louvers because of sight restriction). It's a good thing we forum viewers had nothing to do with the Bullitt's design. That's why it's the way it is and appeals to those who "get" the car. Others can simply buy a GT and mod away like most have done. And perhaps alot will mod their Bullitts as well. Feel free to do so. Aside from the twin-marker hood (which so many call the twin-"vent" hood), this is as close to the original 1968 car as 'yer gonna get (and you can always change the hood if you like). Very many Mustang owners tweak their cars to get that personal touch and the Bullitt will be no different, although it did start life as a SE to begin with. I agree SE's should be different and the Bullitt indeed is, with a stealthy low-profile look that it is supposed to have! The GT/CS package is a nice looking option on the Mustang that Ford allows you to put on. It's a good starting point or just a nice dress-up package on its own. Not for me, but nice nonetheless. I don't think we realize how fortunate we are that Ford offers so many Mustangs in their base forms and a huge selection of aftermarket suppliers that allows us to personalize each and every one. To a degree, it rivals the '60's in choices. By the way, the new Bullitt will best the 1968 GT390 by almost 2 1/2 seconds 0-60 mph! I think that's pretty good, but of course forty years has passed. Enjoy each and every Mustang!!!