2001 bullitt worked fine without a 68 style hood.

 

That's because it didn't have '68 styling. The current car does. The new Bullitt should therefore reflect that.

With no appreciable power gain and a mediocre styling effort, it's a worthless effort...IMO.

 

I like it. It's not as big of a deal as I thought but look at it this way, as a package/add on it will be more accessible then the Shelby's and with a CAI and FRPP packs a good tune will fix some of that performance lack. I would have loved to see a 400HP SE Bullit but truth be told with all the horrible ADM's I had a bad taste in my mouth for a roped off Bullit that I have to look at from 20 ft away as I get their 25K ADM choked down my throat.

 

Well I never really considered that car to be a Bullitt...it never made sense to me to have a hood scoop when the '68 had an induction hood.
It was just a DHG (or blue or black- how are they Bullitt's??) Mustang GT with Bullitt letters on it.

I was hoping the '08 would be more accurate to the original.

 

The 2001 was a tribute car not a "let's get it as close to the original as possible". There are several subtile nods to the 68 on the 01 that Sean Tant drew in. The 08 will be the same. And the 68 did not have an induction hood. Just two small vents with turn signals in it. More styling than anything else. With the hands off our stuff at the time by SVT I am surprised that the 01 had the Cobra brake package. So there was no way they were going to put even an N/A version of the Cobra motor. Take a look at the 03 Cobra bumper. It is the same bumper as on the Bullitt concept.

As to it was a GT with Bullitt letters on it, there were several performance upgrades on the 01 Bullitt over a stock GT.


POWERTRAIN, SUSPENSION AND BRAKE COMPARISON <TABLE width=500><TBODY><TR><TD></TD><TD>Bullitt</TD><TD>GT</TD></TR><TR><TD>Front Suspension</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>Springs </TD><TD>600 lb/in. linear
(lowers car 3/4") </TD><TD>450 lb/in. linear</TD></TR><TR><TD>Struts</TD><TD>35 mm piston,
custom valved struts</TD><TD>32 mm piston</TD></TR><TR><TD>Stabilizer Bar</TD><TD>28mm tubular</TD><TD>26.5mm solid</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rear Suspension</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>Springs </TD><TD>250 lb/in. linear (lowers car 3/4")</TD><TD>210 lb/in. linear</TD></TR><TR><TD>Shocks</TD><TD>30 mm piston, custom valved shocks</TD><TD>30 mm piston </TD></TR><TR><TD>Stabilizer Bar</TD><TD>21 mm tubular</TD><TD>23 mm solid</TD></TR><TR><TD>Brakes</TD><TD></TD><TD></TD></TR><TR><TD>Front
Calipers</TD><TD>Dual piston aluminum,
custom painted</TD><TD>Dual piston aluminum</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rotors</TD><TD>330 mm vented</TD><TD>276 mm vented</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rear
Calipers</TD><TD>Single piston</TD><TD>Single piston</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rotors</TD><TD>296 mm vented </TD><TD>267 mm solid </TD></TR><TR><TD>ABS/T.C.</TD><TD>Yes</TD><TD>Yes</TD></TR><TR><TD>Misc.</TD><TD>Subframe connectors</TD><TD>N/A</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Engine and transmission modifications

• The new cast aluminum intake manifold has an increased runner diameter to maintain low-end torque and provide a broader power curve for increased top-end performance.
• A twin 57mm-bore throttle body replaces the GT 65 mm throttle body, allowing for quicker throttle response and increased peak flow.
• To reduce parasitic losses, the alternator pulley was increased to 66 mm and the water pump pulley was increased to 140 mm.
• The exhaust system has been retuned to increase flow approximately 20% and give the Bullitt a new distinct sound.
• A new 11-inch flywheel and clutch assembly have been added to increase torque capacity and reduce clutch pedal efforts.

 

The 2001 is the only "Bullitt" so far. The 1968 is just a GT.

 

The 68 had a NON-functional induction hood....but regardless, with the retro re-style of the Mustang they should try to get it as close as possible to the 68.

 

The 1968 Ford Mustang GT had an induction hood? Really?

For the benefit of the ignorant, could you explain how the induction hood worked. Mine had a double vented hood with the inserted turn signals and I was never able to figure out how the induction worked. TIA.

 

Just buy an 08 bullitt and stick this hood on it.
http://alliance247.com/product.php?pid=826

 

No kidding. I'm really getting the feeling that Ford marketing thinks that Mustang fans are suckers with deep pockets who are too stupid to realize how they're being abused by their favorite car company.

 

Making a deal with the devil always has its price.

Ford's strategy has been proven wrong. They have succeeded greatly in creating an atmosphere of ill will and animosity from their most loyal clientale. Their association with Carroll Shelby has back fired. There has been mutual contradicting already and today's Ford will eventually experience first hand why Shelby got the boot in the first place.

Sure, there's been lots of grand standing, ink, hype, and headliners for magazines but at the end what counts is the publics's perception of Ford and how Ford regards the public as their customers, and that perception is directly associated with sales.

 

I said it was a NON-functioning induction hood. It had fake intakes beside the turn signal.
But regardless.....THAT is the hood the 68 GT "Bullitt" Mustang had.
Don't you think the 08 should too???
The cooling vents for the rear brakes were also fake- but Ford stuck them on the '01.

 

How so? The Mustang still seems to be selling well. People want these Shelby additions. If not for dealer's trying to gouge people with such crazy markups, I can't see any other complaints.
I don't think you're seeing the bigger picture. YOU think you're the person Ford is marketing too. And you're really not. The V6 outsells GT's and Shelby's combined.
It's the V6 owners/buyers, who are allowing Ford to bring out a few SE's for folks like you and I.
WE are a niche market.

 

I'm going to start posting this announcement in threads whenever I foresee a potential problem. No problems so far but just wanted to make everyone is aware that there is now zero tolerance for personal attacks on TMS.
http://forums.bradbarnett.net/announcement.php?f=31

 

What can I say, facts speak for themselves.

I may be often contradicted but rarely proven wrong.

 

Sorry AFBlue...I edited my post. I wasn't looking to start anything- but I think you know what I was getting at.

 

How so? I have yet to read a single segment from Ford or Shelby Autos on behave of their Mustang customer base and against dealer abuse but countless times I've seen the reference to the GT500 and the Shelby GT $600,000.00 auction sales which have fueled what we have experience thus far.

Ford might not be marketing to ME as you post but two Pintos, one Mercury Capri, thirteen Mustangs, two F150s, two Volvos, and over one hundred referals with over thirty confirmed sales, seventeen to my local dealer, will disprove your premature assessment. If not I, then who is Ford marketing to? There are only so many rental companies to sell to and Ford is losing on that market as well.

As for the Mustang still selling well, dealer inventories indicate otherwise unless Ford is duplicating vin numbers, options, color combos and shipping them to the same dealers. I keep up with a couple dozen dealers in Florida and their inventories. It's my way of keeping informed and also serves as a good bargaining chip.

 

Then what is the logic on posting such warning on this topic in particular?

There are disagreements among members at times but personal attacks are not frequent and almost non-existant on the Special Edition & High Performance forums.

I associate personal attacks to name calling which again seems to me not to be a frequent occurrence. Now, if TMS is planning to implement selective censorship on the pretext of personal attacks that's as close as having a totalitarian site as the complaining party can hope for. Whichever the motive, it can be a two way sword.

Using terms such as stupid, idiot, G*F*Y, or S*T*F*U has no place on these boards but restricting members from commenting because of someone's thin skin or because the comments are in direct conflict with what the complaining party is trying to accomplish then the solution is not censorship. The solution is having the ability to refute such comments with facts. If the complaining party lacks the facts to refute such comments but is influential enough to silence the TMS members then censorship is your best alternative.

BTW. While we are on the subject of personal attacks. Do you think there is a slight possibility that visitors or members whose sexual orientation might not be what is socially acceptable to most of us might be offended and keeping their distance because TMS allows the promotion of ridicule towards them with the "gay" smilie?

 

I think you're over estimating people's desire for Shelbys...greatly.

Ford has gone to the well once too often now with this whole Shelby marketing tactic - and it is having an effect opposite to that intended: it is souring people on the name.

 

I have to second this sentiment. There is a difference between personal attacks, and arguments about subjects where one is forced to defend their position or themselves.

Where do you draw the line, and what criteria do you use to do so...?

It seems to me that if you're now starting to anticipate problems that haven't even arisen yet, then the pendulum is swinging way too far to one side so that the rights of the many are being compromised by the feelings of a few.

That's a slippery slope.