[quote=Dad's72Mach;5551733]I thought rumor was that 2010 model is due mid 09 model year



That's ture, I know fact there's will a 45th Anniv Mustang will at the LA Auto show
next Jan of 09. then in April 09 something will happen at 45th Anniv. MCA Show in Ala.

 

Back in the day Ford offered the Mach 1 and Boss at the same time giving customers a choice. From 1969-73 both the Mach 1 and Boss were staples in the lineup. You didn't have to wait and wonder from year to year if they would offer them as a special edition. People have had to rely on the aftermarket to get the model they want and they do a really good job of offering the right parts to create an authentic look.

Even the Mustang II through it's five years of production gave you a choice of Mach I, Cobra II, Stallion, 2+2 with sports appearance package, and the last year a Cobra II.

The current Pony package pretty much occupies the position of the classic GT with the exception of the V8 engine choice. Meanwhile, the current GT gives you the V8 in a plain monotone appearance. There is plenty of room for Mach 1 and Boss models. Just give the customer some regularly available choices if they want them.

 

I have argued this point many times, my Brother ... (I share your pain).

 

I always felt the current GT occupies the space that the Mach1 and Boss used to while the Pony package looks just like the classic GT's. Certainly the way it is now, any Mach 1 or Boss model should be the step above the GT but right below the Shelby. The Bullitt was not even originally a production model nameplate offered by Ford. It was a modified production Mustang GT prepared for a movie and it is so centered around being a specific Highland Green color. The original California Special was a 2-door hardtop (not a fastback) with an exterior trim package borrowing from bits and pieces that other Mustang fastbacks and Shelbys used. Now it's mostly an appearance package on a GT. The one thing that did make the California Special special was the wide Shelby sequential taillamps and of course Ford did not even plan for any such differentiation even for the Shelby models.

Certainly if Ford can justify a market for the Warriors In Pink Boobstang then they should be able to reach a lot more people with a proper Mach 1 or "Boss" package. The Boss might be a little more difficult with the name ownership rights Shinoda owns.

 

Good point ... Very good point indeed.

My sole issue with the BULLITT is they should've gave it the 5.4 (at least as an option), as they should any upcoming BOSS and/or Mach 1. The 5.4 for the BULLITT being that is closest to the original 390 GT.

 

I know you probably really love the Mach 1 just like the rest of us, but before you downplay Boomer's poking, he's got a point. Short of 800hp for 20k...nevermind, EVEN with that, people will complain. Look at the all the SE's out there, and they all get their bashing, GT500 is too heavy, Bullitt doesn't have enough hp, Shelby GT is just...an overpriced GT, GT/CS is just bling without substance, mod motors could be so much more, Ford better put some hp in there so I can beat a Camaro on the street...yada yada yada.

I'm sure the only thing that's really wrong with the Mach 1 and Boss is that they aren't here yet. But speculating gives us something to do doesn't it?

Aftermarket packages do not count. They aren't official Ford or sanctioned through Ford (ie Shelby stuff) And yes, that means I'm saying the Roushes and Saleens and all those other wonderful cars don't count for this either.

Personally, I like the formula for the last Mach 1, give it a beefy detuned version of the best engine you have on the Mustang, and make it look tough and distinctive. I'd be sold at that point. Maybe they're saving the Boss for when the Shelby relationship goes up in smoke again or it loses it's appeal and then they can use it in the multi-level fashion as before like Boss 302, Boss 429, etc...

 

Gotta agree with this ... I sure hope they do the next MACH 1 as good, if not better, than the last one. That car is a sweet ride for the money indeed.

 

Guys take look over our Mach1 website http://www.mach1registry.org/forums/...ad.php?t=70955 we having a poll about Mach1, we like have your say about next Mach1 to.

 

I think there's plenty of room for both a Boss and a Mach I model. The Boss 302 was very much a high-revving road racer in character with serious emphasis on overall balance and performance. In contrast, the Mach I tended to be a more narrowly focused drag strip or stop light racer with the emphasis on big, torquey motors and, well, little else.

Perhaps for a '10 Boss, put in the reported 5.0 motor but with DI and a nice 425hp or so, backed by a tight six speed, IRS and big Brembos. Add some serious seats and minimal foppish flash and viola, a working man's M3'esque road carving machine.

For the Mach I, perhaps a version of the truck Boss motor with locomotive class low-end torque, stout ATX or MTX geared for optimal 1/4 mile sprints and the cheap 'n sturdy live axle. Primp it up with all the necessary flash and glitter for street cruising between lights and voila, a stop light stomper extraordinaire.

Price both around the low 30's, above the 275hp 3.5 V6 and the GT (375-400hp FI 5.0) but below a TT, GDI 5.0, 500hp uber Stang GT500 and I think Ford would have a beautifully fleshed out lineup.

 

So what do you think gets bumped from the current lineup? My money would be on the SGT becoming an offered tuning package from Shelby instead of dealership available model, obviously the Bullitt not going past next year. Do you think they would introduce a Boss with a GT500 in the lineup? Seems like they'd be competing with themselves at that point if they simultaneously had a Mach too. I've understood that from the extension of the marketing relationship that Ford had probably intended to retain Shelby's name in the lineup for many years to come.