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Old 2/19/08 | 10:50 AM
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...i dont know..but motor trend did have an article this month that gt500 is a go for 2009....(strong demand..huge sales)....


I found the above post on the team shelby forums, anyone seen the MT article he is talking about? Not that I put much stock in anything MT or C&D has to say, just wondering if there is such an article in the current issue.
Old 2/19/08 | 02:48 PM
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Motor Trend's 2008 March issue, page 48. It also has a reference to the 2010.
Old 2/19/08 | 02:54 PM
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Remember, MT is the same rag that named the Vega the Car of the Year. I don't put a lot of stock in what they say.
Old 2/19/08 | 03:07 PM
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I bought my boss429 in 1971 for$ 2900.00 never went down to$2500.00 . streight up from their.Still have a problem when ask to sell it. offer $250,000.00 plus. The feeling never dies when you drive this car.How do you put a price on memorys? If Ford is going to have a car like this in the near future IMO the GT 500 is a sure bet or the Ford GT. I kept the Boss because it's been here for 37 years. The GT500 is the closes car I have driven lately that feels like the Boss!!! I didn't pay an admand I am sure happy I own one. TO me this car is special and to some off you who have a GT500 know exactly what I'am saying!!! This car may not be around long. so enjoy them while their here. Long live the Mustang and all the s/e to me this a car that fits all ages.
Old 2/19/08 | 03:21 PM
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MT is synonymous with accurate reporting.



They are acurately right or accurately wrong.


Old 2/19/08 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by boss429man
I bought my boss429 in 1971 for$ 2900.00 never went down to$2500.00
Was MSRP for the 1971 Boss 429 $2,500 or $2,900? Either way, thats better than 12% per year return on your investment, not counting the fun you had
Old 2/19/08 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by JonW
Muscle cars died in 1973 due to 3 converging scenarios: expensive fuel (and the OPEC embargo), high insurance rates, and federal emissions standards. Most musclecar people agree that 1970 was the high-water mark. By 1973, they were gone (except for the SD Trans Am). 22 years later, in 1985, when the musclecar market started exploding, we still had gasoline-powered cars and we had plenty of gasoline to put in them.
For the 1,000th time, the 1973 OPEC oil embargo and rising gas prices had NOTHING to do with the end of the muscle car era.

The OPEC oil embargo did not start until October 17, 1973, which was after the 2004 models were on sale.

The original muscle car era ended in 1971 when Ford dropped the 429CJ & SCJ and Chrysler dropped the Hemi. Ford & Chrysler could no longer afford to spend the $$ to engineer them and put high HP engines into production because they were such a small part of total sales. When confronted with the new emissions and safety regulations (can you say 87 octane unleaded gasoline?) engineering resourses had higher priorities than performance cars. GM was so huge and dominent at the time, they could afford to keep the SD & Chevy 454 around a while longer with low compression versions of them.
Old 2/19/08 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by mjbarnet
Was MSRP for the 1971 Boss 429 $2,500 or $2,900? Either way, thats better than 12% per year return on your investment, not counting the fun you had
There was no Boss 429 model in 1971. I'm assuming he bought his Boss 429 used as sticker price on a 1970 Boss 429 was over $4,000.
Old 2/19/08 | 11:34 PM
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A local dealer that had me on a waiting list for a while called me and stated that they have a fully loaded GT500 coupe with nav, HIDs and they want 52k is that MSRP? Either way i'm no longer in the market for one but just curious considering when I was ready to buy they wanted $80,000!
Old 2/19/08 | 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 1 BULLITT
MT is synonymous with accurate reporting.



They are acurately right or accurately wrong.



You gotta give them credit with the 05' for the most part they were dead on about the car's retro looks going all the way back to the early 2000s
Old 2/20/08 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 97GT03SVT
A local dealer that had me on a waiting list for a while called me and stated that they have a fully loaded GT500 coupe with nav, HIDs and they want 52k is that MSRP? Either way i'm no longer in the market for one but just curious considering when I was ready to buy they wanted $80,000!
No, it is ~$5K over MSRP
Old 2/20/08 | 04:29 PM
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The sticker price on my boss was 5291.00 in1970 ,I bought in late 71 for 2900.00 sorry about the confussion.
Old 3/14/08 | 01:35 PM
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You know ADMS are DEAD When:
I post a GT500 for sale at MSRP and nobody even looks at it!
Old 3/14/08 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by SixtySix
I post a GT500 for sale at MSRP and nobody even looks at it!
I looked at it - just didn't post any response - sorry!
Old 3/14/08 | 04:10 PM
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Hey, just puttin it out there, for all those that complain about ADM's.... Here it is, a GT500 at MSRP on a silver platter waiting to be plucked
Old 3/15/08 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by SixtySix
Hey, just puttin it out there, for all those that complain about ADM's.... Here it is, a GT500 at MSRP on a silver platter waiting to be plucked
What year is it and whats the msrp price?
Old 3/16/08 | 12:35 PM
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PM Sent, I don't know any other details than what's posted.
Old 3/22/08 | 12:50 PM
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Well, with the news of GT500's for 2009, I was able to convince my boss to drop the price of our remaining '08 GT500's. We're still over MSRP, but only $3K, and I'm hearing about more and more MSRP deals out there. I suspect MSRP will be quite common everywhere before much longer - especially once the '09's are on the lots.
Old 3/22/08 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Five Oh Brian
Well, with the news of GT500's for 2009, I was able to convince my boss to drop the price of our remaining '08 GT500's. We're still over MSRP, but only $3K, and I'm hearing about more and more MSRP deals out there. I suspect MSRP will be quite common everywhere before much longer - especially once the '09's are on the lots.
I bet all those people paying big ADMs to get the ultra rare GT500s are bummin' now. I can't begin to count how many times I typed the words "Ford will make as many of these as they can. They won't be rare. Don't pay the ADMs"

When all is said and done, they will have made at least 25,000 of these.

I'm surprised it took this long however. Ford marketed this car well and did the dealers a huge favor by selling them to each dealer instead of the SVT dealers only.

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Old 3/23/08 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by crazyhorse
I bet all those people paying big ADMs to get the ultra rare GT500s are bummin' now. I can't begin to count how many times I typed the words "Ford will make as many of these as they can. They won't be rare. Don't pay the ADMs"

When all is said and done, they will have made at least 25,000 of these.

I'm surprised it took this long however. Ford marketed this car well and did the dealers a huge favor by selling them to each dealer instead of the SVT dealers only.
I believe that the guys who got early GT500's and paid higher ADM's are - for the most part - very pleased and not bummin' at all. They've had 1-1.5 years of memories with their GT500's already that the guys who held out for MSRP did not get. This is true of most new gotta have it toys, whether we're talking iPhones, Plasma/LCD TV's, or the latest musclecar. The early consumers typically pay more, but get to enjoy them sooner.

I'm as surprised as you, however, that it has taken so long for GT500 pricing to settle down to MSRP. Just goes to show just how badly people want a 500hp Mustang.

Ford may have done the generic Ford dealers a favor by giving them access to sell GT500's (justifying big ADM's for them in the process), but disserviced the consumers in the process. When it was just 604 of us SVT dealers getting SVT products, we got more SVT's per dealership and didn't charge ADM's much (if any) as we had a decent suppply per franchise. However, by spreading the GT500's out so thin by offering them to all 3,700 Ford dealers, a lot of dealers who only got 1 or 2 treated those cars like they won the lottery and held them for ransom.


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