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Old May 10, 2010 | 10:08 AM
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I don't know. I think if my VIN doesn't get assigned by this Friday I might go for the GT. Not sure, can't make a decision. Maybe I can head to Ford dealership to test drive a V6.
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Old May 10, 2010 | 11:09 AM
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That's probably your best bet right now. Try to get your hands on a 5.0 and a V6 to test drive. When I had a V6 (still have for the next month or so!), certain groups would normally first be impressed that I had a Mustang, then be disappointed when It old them it was just a V6. "That's not a real Mustang", they usually tease.

Ultimately I had to agree, but maybe this year's V6 can be an honorary Mustang with 305 HP. Personally I just wanted to have a V8, but to me the new engine was worth the extra money, at least so far as I can say right now (not seen one yet).
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Old May 10, 2010 | 11:10 AM
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If you drive both, more often than not, you'll want the GT....
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Old May 10, 2010 | 11:23 AM
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I think you should keep your order as is. You don't have to buy it when it comes in. By that time, you should have had the opportunity to drive both cars and could get a feel for the GT. You may end up driving both and not feel it's worth the $6k premium before your V6 arrives, and then when it does arrive you'll be happy you don't have to wait another 2 months for another order.
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Old May 10, 2010 | 11:42 AM
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You should buy what you want, but realistically I think you need to keep a few things in mind.

Yeah, the GT is going to be a sick ride, and quick as hell. But $130 a month is $1500+ a year, not including the more expensive registration, insurance and gas. You could be looking at $2000+ per year difference to drive a slightly faster car.

Now if performance and image is that important to you, go for it. Just think about it though.

The V6 isn't going to be that far off of the 2010 GT you drove. No it won't sound the same, but it will still sound great. Have you ever heard a 370z or G37 with a modified exhaust system? It still sounds insanely awesome, just different.

You're going to be saving a ton of money, get better gas mileage, still have a car that is one of the quicker factory mustangs out there and should handle phenomenally.

A lot of people talk about regretting a car purchase being a bad thing, as in wanting the more expensive car, but to me the feeling of buying something you didn't necessarily want or need and dealing with the financial burden for 4-5 years is a much worse choice.

I also hate to say it, but if you are looking at the monthly payments only, it seems to me you may not be at a stage in your life where 30K+ purchases should be taken so lightly. I apologize if that's not the case, but I just really hate seeing people stuck in something that's costing them more then they want.

And last but not least, the price is gas is going up again. When or how fast, nobody knows, but don't fool yourself into thinking that things are always going to be the way they are now. I also think it would be wise to not assume you will always be able to rely on public transportation. But I guess I'm the type of dude who always plans for the worst.

Decisions that put you in debt (or more debt) should never be taken lightly! Debt is quite literally slavery to a bank, only you get to choose your method of work.

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Old May 10, 2010 | 11:44 AM
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Get the GT and sleep in it.
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Old May 10, 2010 | 11:48 AM
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In normal driving, where will the GT outshine the V6 except in ticket territory? (Stoplight runs, aggressive lane changes, etc.) At the track, all bets are off and the GT is without question the way to go. Can you get $1500/year worth of track time when you're only driving it 4000 miles a year?
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Old May 10, 2010 | 12:02 PM
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Funny coming from someone that got the most un-manly color - hey - isn't that the color Stingers MOM bought? I guess you wanted the big manly V8, but still wanted to be able to have your girlie side shine bright! The last person I saw driving a Candy as* Stang had three kids jump out of the car after her - LMAO

...no offense to you jokerstars - just felt like busting his chops - lol
i just want to make it clear to everyone that didn't catch this but jokerstars car on order is a Candy@ss V6 =

if i had indecision on this subject and if it were my 1st mustang and coming out of a 4 cylinder econobox i would go and swing for a sweet deal on a 2010 GT here
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Old May 10, 2010 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeffs08GT
You could be looking at $2000+ per year difference to drive a slightly faster car.
Slightly...
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Old May 10, 2010 | 12:05 PM
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. . . a sweet deal on a 2010 GT here
unfortunately the "internet special price" or whatever they call them at Apple ford is not the real price . . . they don't include the $850 delivery and also charge something like $400 "doc fee" so the real price is about $1,200 more than what they publish
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Old May 10, 2010 | 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Bert
unfortunately the "internet special price" or whatever they call them at Apple ford is not the real price . . . they don't include the $850 delivery and also charge something like $400 "doc fee" so the real price is about $1,200 more than what they publish
yeah but deepc285 negotiated ~1k below their internet price on a premium GT w/track pack so it's almost a wash, that's why i said swing for sweet deal meaning i would offer a lower $$$ figure based on knowing that they had done it before

anyways, just offering an alternative to either the 2011 GT or V6 that seems to bridge the gap in price and performance
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Old May 10, 2010 | 12:13 PM
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Please don't insult other members.

We've been getting more and more complaints lately, and the mods are going to start dishing out more than just warnings.
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Old May 10, 2010 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jokerstars
I don't know. I think if my VIN doesn't get assigned by this Friday I might go for the GT. Not sure, can't make a decision. Maybe I can head to Ford dealership to test drive a V6.
If you were going to do some test driving, I would drive the following in this order -

2005-2009 V6
2011 V6
2010 GT

The reason I would use this order is because it is in the order of least-to-most peak torque. I would also do a drive around town and a short ride on the highway, paying particular attention to the acceleration feel on the onramps.

Good luck!
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Old May 10, 2010 | 12:34 PM
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I sent Matt Farah an email after seeing his review of the 2011 V6 Mustang. Here's what he said to me:

"The six doesn't have as much low end torque as the 2010's V8, but its more than quick enough to get you into trouble. Its very balanced and the performance pack is a big recommendation, especially with the 3.31 rear. The new V6 is very similar in performance to the old V8, so you will probably be happy with that."

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Old May 10, 2010 | 12:36 PM
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Please don't insult other members.

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I apologize to any member that i insulted as it was only in a joking manner but went to far. Please forgive me if you felt insulted by any of my remarks.
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Old May 10, 2010 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jokerstars
I sent Matt Farah an email after seeing his review of the 2011 V6 Mustang. Here's what he said to me:

"The six doesn't have as much low end torque as the 2010's V8, but its more than quick enough to get you into trouble.
"Low-end torque" is the key term. I have a friend (former Ford engineer) who says "You talk horsepower, but you drive torque". Of course, this simplifies the total experience, but it is a very good way to keep in mind the around-town driving experience.

Back when the 2005 GTs first came out, a lot of people were saying "the '03-'04 Mach 1 will get wiped by a GT" because their numbers (on paper) were similar. The Mach 1 makes about 20 lb-ft or torque more at the peak, which "feels" faster at speeds under 60mph or when you drop 2 gears and accelerate at 60mph upward. Measured performances could go to either car, but the "feel" was different among those 2 vehicles.


Originally Posted by jokerstars
Its very balanced and the performance pack is a big recommendation, especially with the 3.31 rear. The new V6 is very similar in performance to the old V8, so you will probably be happy with that."



The 2 descriptors "similar" and "probably" are key. You must drive...

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Old May 10, 2010 | 12:56 PM
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Bottom line, I think, is that you will not be UNHAPPY driving a GT daily (or 3-4 times a week) but you might a V6. On the other hand, you might be unhappy with the payment once a month for the GT. Which would make you happier: Daily enjoyment and monthly pain or daily ambivalence and monthly contentment?
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Old May 10, 2010 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeffs08GT
You should buy what you want, but realistically I think you need to keep a few things in mind.

And last but not least, the price is gas is going up again. When or how fast, nobody knows, but don't fool yourself into thinking that things are always going to be the way they are now.

Decisions that put you in debt (or more debt) should never be taken lightly! Debt is quite literally slavery to a bank, only you get to choose your method of work.
Those are all good points. But this is his weekend fun car/stress relief.

As to gas, sounds like he has a career in a metro area so it doesn't sound like he intends to move to the rurals. Public trans is all around. And he can always use 87 in the 5.0. I do in the B when I have to and its still plenty fun!

As to pmts, he is also getting a more valuable car with the GT. Yes it will depreciate but the V6 will do so faster.

As to debt, as long as it fits within plan, using other people's money is not slavery - its leverage. Managed properly, within budget and with discipline, just a tool in the toolbox. Lock in a low rate (these are historically low) before they spike. And heck, you can always sell it if things change for your plan. A car is semi-liquid - not like a house.

If you can work your budget without going overboard (i.e. have an emergency fund), get the V8 dude. You'll thank me! Its a symphony that no 6 can match. And like mentioned before, out of the blue you could have a disabling incident (or worse) like I had. Boom! Life change...

And who knows... V8's could be weaned out in the near future. In your 40's & 50's you'll at least be able to say you had one American thumper V8 - 'back in the day'. This is part of your life experience. Take pics, vids, hit the road, see our beautiful countryside, make memories!

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Old May 10, 2010 | 01:34 PM
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Which ever one you get you'll be happy with and the 3:31 gears should take care of the low-end,
most 11's have the 2:73.
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Old May 10, 2010 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by cinque35
Which ever one you get you'll be happy with and the 3:31 gears should take care of the low-end,
most 11's have the 2:73.
I agree - 3.31 is a must on the V6
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