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Old Jul 6, 2012 | 10:44 AM
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Sync Applink w/ Android 4.0+ issues

Hey guys, I just got a new phone yesterday, went from an iPhone to android. I'm having some issues using it with sync and applink. I set it up with the car and can play everything fine via bluetooth stream, but when trying to play via USB I'm having issues.

On my iPhone, I could just tell my car to go into usb mode, then on my phone start pandora, and then it would just start playing..that was it. I could also just say "mobile apps" and then say pandora, and that would also work and would utilize the applink features. Now when I change to USB, and touch pandora on my phone, it plays pandora out of my phone speaker. If I voice-command the car to play an artist I have on my phone that works. But if I go to my music library on my phone and click a song, it plays over my phone speakers.

Finally, on my new phone if I say mobile apps, it says it can't find any mobile apps, even when pandora is running on my phone....not sure what the problem is at this point.
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Old Jul 6, 2012 | 11:10 AM
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Did u try google to see if anyone else had the similar problem?
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Old Jul 6, 2012 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by HizliBullet
Did u try google to see if anyone else had the similar problem?
Of course, that was my first attempt. I wasn't really able to find much in search results. It may be out there, but nothing jumped out during preliminary google searches.
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Old Jul 6, 2012 | 11:59 AM
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Try a factory reset on Sync. It's in your manual. Had an issue with running the vehicle health report and did a factory reset and that fixed it.
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Old Jul 6, 2012 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by viiStang
Try a factory reset on Sync. It's in your manual. Had an issue with running the vehicle health report and did a factory reset and that fixed it.
I can give that a try after work. I'm skeptical whether it will help though. I'm not sure whether its an issue with the car or the phone. Or both.
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Old Jul 6, 2012 | 02:37 PM
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So I fiddled around with it for a bit when I went to get lunch and had some success. For some reason it will only work with the applink when I'm connected via bluetooth. I'm not really sure why. With my iPhone, I just had to plug it in via usb, and then say mobile apps..etc and it worked, didn't matter if I was connected via bluetooth.

But the only time I can get my android phone to do it is when connected to bluetooth.
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Old Jul 6, 2012 | 03:19 PM
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Which phone do you have?
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Old Jul 6, 2012 | 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Overboost
Which phone do you have?
samsung galaxy nexus

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Old Jul 6, 2012 | 04:04 PM
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I had played Pandora through bluetooth for quite a while (android 3.7 HTC Rezound) and it stopped working last week. I found out there is a new setting in the updated pandora app called "bluetooth for automotive" that needs to be checked. That said, I haven't tried it out now that I checked the box.

I have never played directly through USB though, just BT...I imagine the sound sucks slightly less in that mode...I actually didn't know you could do that.

Unfortunately it seems, despite Android's more open and flexible ecosystem, the widespread popularity of apple and supposed "ease of use" has resulted in better support for those products.

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Old Jul 6, 2012 | 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Forkmachine
I had played Pandora through bluetooth for quite a while (android 3.7 HTC Rezound) and it stopped working last week. I found out there is a new setting in the updated pandora app called "bluetooth for automotive" that needs to be checked. That said, I haven't tried it out now that I checked the box.

I have never played directly through USB though, just BT...I imagine the sound sucks slightly less in that mode...I actually didn't know you could do that.

Unfortunately it seems, despite Android's more open and flexible ecosystem, the widespread popularity of apple and supposed "ease of use" has resulted in better support for those products.
Yea other than for making calls, when I had my iPhone I literally never used the bluetooth media feature. I always just plugged it in. I could even use the mobile applink via the usb cable. I'm not sure why that's an issue for the android devices. Either way, as long as I can use the applink features with pandora over bluetooth, and the song info appears on my stereo, I'm happy with that.
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Old Jul 9, 2012 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jmillz
samsung galaxy nexus
The Galaxy Nexus is a little different from other phones since it doesn't actually have an internal SD card, and instead fakes a card in memory.

Make sure when you connect with USB that you have the phone set to act as a Media Device (MTP) as opposed to Camera (PTP). Although, alternatively, if you are already on MTP, you could switch it to PTP and see what happens..
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Old Jul 9, 2012 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by dontOverSteer
The Galaxy Nexus is a little different from other phones since it doesn't actually have an internal SD card, and instead fakes a card in memory.

Make sure when you connect with USB that you have the phone set to act as a Media Device (MTP) as opposed to Camera (PTP). Although, alternatively, if you are already on MTP, you could switch it to PTP and see what happens..
Yea I'm aware of it using a single physical drive for both your media as well as the OS installation files and it just represents it virtually. As more phones come out I think you'll be seeing more and more of them doing that. But to answer your question I've tried it in both MTP as well as PTP, neither worked for applink but it does work for playing the music files on the phone. So obviously the connection to the phone's hard drive is fine. It just can't control pandora over the usb connection. I have to use bluetooth for that.
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Old Jul 9, 2012 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jmillz
Yea I'm aware of it using a single physical drive for both your media as well as the OS installation files and it just represents it virtually. As more phones come out I think you'll be seeing more and more of them doing that. But to answer your question I've tried it in both MTP as well as PTP, neither worked for applink but it does work for playing the music files on the phone. So obviously the connection to the phone's hard drive is fine. It just can't control pandora over the usb connection. I have to use bluetooth for that.
I did some light reading and I don't think it's just the GNex that has this 'issue.' I think it's actually the iPhone having special treatment, that it can be controlled through it's dock connector, whereas Android has no special USB support for things like AppLink. They make up for it using Bluetooth like you discovered.
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Old Jul 9, 2012 | 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by dontOverSteer
I did some light reading and I don't think it's just the GNex that has this 'issue.' I think it's actually the iPhone having special treatment, that it can be controlled through it's dock connector, whereas Android has no special USB support for things like AppLink. They make up for it using Bluetooth like you discovered.
That makes a lot of sense, and I really can't say I'm surprised. To be honest I assumed you had to be hard connected in order to use applink, I actually never tried using applink via bluetooth with my iphone. I actually like the idea of being able to do it wirelessly. I can still plug it in and have it charge if I need and still control it over bluetooth.

EDIT: Also, I can't really blame them for giving iPhone special treatment when its only one device they have to develop for to do it.
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