boduke0220

i dont think any of us are really sure whats going to happen because fords just reall retarded right now. **** i dont even know what im saying why cant they just do this?
V6-3.5-4.0 210-230 hp
4.6-300 hp
4.6-320 hp
5.0-400 hp
5.4 450
5.8 500+

Ford is somewhat doing this now but not to where "me & you" are going to come anywhere near buying it anyways, they just want to attract people to their showrooms

mustangfan123

I think it should be like this:
v6-4.0 210hp
gt-4.6 300hp
shelby gt-4.6 319hp
gt350-4.6 350hp
bullitt-5.0 390hp
boss-5.0 425hp
gt500-5.4 500hp
gt500kr-5.4 540hp
super snake-5.4 600hp

instigator311

As a standard line up:

3.7 ~ 270 hp......V6
5.8 ~ 360 hp......GT
6.2 ~ 450 hp......Boss SE
7.0 ~ 540 hp......Cobra SE


I guess a 5.0 ~ 335 hp as a GT could work...but I still wouldn't mind the Boss V8.

Then, considering I've read rumors of a Boss 6.4, there could be a limited edition Bullitt. Then, and this would be a big then, they could let the next body style go out with a bang and convert the 7.0 to a 429 and give us a very limited Boss 429.......I can dream can't I...

boduke0220

mustangfan, i think the bullitt and boss are to close together hp wise, up the boss to abt 425 ish
yea keep the GT in the low 300's so us teen's can have some fun too

MustangFanatic

No 5.8L for the Boss Mustang would be a tremendous mistake, I would be extremely disappointed if this were true

mustangfan123

Not to be negative but I wont be suprised if the Boss is just a stripe package and off the shelf FRPP upgrades(handling and power pack). Ford is doing off the shelf stuff on the shelby gt and bullitt mustang so that leads me to believe the Boss will be the same.

boduke0220

i second that mustangfan, i had a dream last night about ford just doing a V6 and GT model lineup but you can get different motors like back in the 60's kinda. I dont think thats a great idea but it hought it sounded cool

and ford is making somewhat of a mistake not doing the 5.8, its obviously going to cost them to make it.And they probably figured it would cost too much.

Justabear

WE ARE screwed, here is an excerpt from a 5/28/07 interview with Ford Marketing MGR

we're not showing our hand, but we're excited about the recent Warriors in Pink edition that's currently on sale. These special models really help us to reinforce our relationship with customers.

OH! A V6 with pink stripes! FORD sure is taking care of their hard core fan base (with no disrespect meant to breast cancer or the Warrior Pkg).

http://www.auto123.com/en/info/news/...tid=82700&pg=3

bob

But it works and it works well, hell even a frigg'n V8 GM truck now gets better mileage than a Mustang GT.

As for barely faster, I'd say a car weighing in around 3900-4000 lbs getting low 13s isnlt nothing to sneeze at, A Mustang weighing 200-300 lbs less would be right in the low 13 to high 12 catagory with that kinda power and still knock down good mileage with a econo rear gear and M6 trans. If they can keep the weight down with the F5 Camaro, it will be a low 13 sec/ high 12 sec car more than likely killing the GT in mileage as well - Something GM could trumpet over the stang if they so chose (Even the Z06 with a 505hp 427cid V8 matches the GT Mustang with its 300hp 281cid V8 in mileage -granted, the vette has areo and weight to assist).

As for an 8k premium, I dont see it costing that much, Ford has experimented with aluminum V10 tech before, the heads are already there and they have plenty of V10 experience as well, plus the transmission already resides in the GT500. The only stumbling block I could see would be possibly as friction issue due to added cylinders and once the engine is warmed up, that probably isn't much of an issue. Hell, if they wanted to go one better, they could adopt AFM, M7 trans and Direct Injection (isnt the 3.5 V6 DI) to further tighten mileage and emissions.

Boomer

What people still yet fail to realize is that WE ARE THE MINORITY!

Ford will sell and make more off of a tape/stripe package on a V6 than on a V8...and sell more.

It's a very cyclical relationship.
V6s sell more than GTs and GT500s and everything in between.
V6s make the other models possible and yet... GT500s help GT sales, and GT sales help V6 sales.

boduke0220

Amen boomer, im sure this is how it was in 1966 wasnt it? with everyone crankin' out SE's with 400+ CI's

Thunder Road

I just dont believe its a given the Camaro or Challenger will have 6L+ motors. The environmental climate is changing. CAFE requirements will be changing by the time they roll out. I think its one of the main reasons GM seperated Corvette from Chevrolet to its own brand.
All the gloom and doom talk about Fords lack of an engine to compete with 6.2L competion sounds to me like much ado about nothing.

Tony Alonso

I believe the car is still called the Chevrolet Corvette and sold at Chevy dealers.

Were you thinking about how the engineering resources and technology seems to be separated from what other Chevys get?

GTJOHN

I think Ford is going to squeeze 20hp-25hp out of the 4.6L, and depending on how well the Camaro & Challenger are received, will offer a 5.4L (350-400hp) SE Mustang in 2009 or 2010. This will buy Ford time & money, and give them a better outlook on the future.

DynamicmustangGT

That angers me I love the idea of 351, you could make well over 1000hp with a 351 w a power adder

DynamicmustangGT

A 7.0 would be a 427, 428 or 429 which would be sweet. Easily over 600hp N/A without mods, but a way more expensive engine

rhumb

The various SEs, current and future, just seem to get ever more disappointing, devolving to little more than easy strolls through the FFRP parts catalog with some stripes and cheesy fake spoilers/scoops. Far from the necessary "Bold Moves" Ford needs to execute to extricate its bacon from the fire, it's reverting to insipid moves.

While I'm not too upset about the 5.8/6.2 (Hurricane) motors not making the cut for the Boss -- though they would make great Mach I motors. A putative 7.0 would fit here too, but I imagine that might be a GT500 replacement motor, ala the Vette Z06 7.0, with the same 500 hp but better economy and less "road-hugging" weight.

On the other hand, a Jag DI 5.0 would have been a real interesting motor and very in keeping with the revvy race motor character of the original Boss 302. Back it up with a tight-geared six speed, slap on some decent brakes and a control blade rear suspension with some decent suspension tuning and you'd have a E93 M3 predator for half the price and the perfect reflection of the Boss 302 spirit.

Sure, it wouldn't be a cheap motor, but perhaps Ford needs to get away from the Walmart bargain-aisle mentality for every Mustang model -- that's covered with the GT -- and perhaps aim a bit higher with some of them. Even at $40-$45 with the above specs, such a model would still be quite a bargain and a very high value against, say the $60K+ Euro coupes/sedans. And a most of those parts would be existing parts (brakes and tranny off the GT500 for example, Jag crate motor, Aussie Fan Blade suspension) lest timid Ford management gets its panties in a bunch at the thought of being too "Bold." Heck, even cede real (read "rough") road handling to the Euro cars and keep the Conestoga axle to cheap out a few more bucks. But you'd still have a very compelling Stang with a distinctive character beyond the usual overpowered, underhandling big-cube blunderbusses (don't we already have the GT500?) to make inroads into new markets.

Tres Wright

I've said this before and will say it again here, those that think Ford needs to develop more performance motors to improve its market share are utterly out of touch with reality. Don't get me wrong, I would love to see half a dozen motors to choose from. But lets face it, we that post here are but a tiny minority of the buying public. Most people out there are staring at that 3.00+ gas price on the pump and trying to find a way to ease the pain, not make it worse. Hybrids and alternative fuels are the future. Ford needs to start measuring "performance" based on MPG rather than HP if they want to avoid giving up even more market share to the Japanese manufacturers. I don't like it and I'm sure none of you do either, but oil prices are going to have a dramatic effect on the auto market in the future. Imagine when (notice I didn't say "if") gas hits 4 bucks a gallon, how many 20 mpg +/- vehicles will the market support then?

GTJOHN

You are correct. But, I just want Ford to squeeze in a couple 350-400hp SE's and/or increase the H.P. in the Mustang GT before the V6's & 4 Bangers take over the World.

It would be nice to see Ford get a couple good punches in, when the Camaro and Challenger arrive!

I just wonder how long its going to be before we see a SC V6 or TTV6 in the Mustang?

Thunder Road

Its already been reported the TT will be in the F150 in 09, wouldnt be surprised to see it in the Mustang as well.